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Postby Wallenburg » Sun Sep 24, 2023 9:44 am

Angeloid Astraea wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:Seeing as the region has simply switched hands to another raiding group, I will continue to support this.

That's a fashbash, Wallenburg, not another raid.

Sure, I trust you, a resident of the raider region Sparkalia, to honestly and impartially represent the raider region Sparkalia's military operations.
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Postby Angeloid Astraea » Sun Sep 24, 2023 9:53 am

Wallenburg wrote:
Angeloid Astraea wrote:That's a fashbash, Wallenburg, not another raid.

Sure, I trust you, a resident of the raider region Sparkalia, to honestly and impartially represent the raider region Sparkalia's military operations.

When I say that military is participating in an anti-fascist operation? Yes, you should. Accusing me of lying about a fash bash is offensive.
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Postby Wallenburg » Sun Sep 24, 2023 9:57 am

Angeloid Astraea wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:Sure, I trust you, a resident of the raider region Sparkalia, to honestly and impartially represent the raider region Sparkalia's military operations.

When I say that military is participating in an anti-fascist operation? Yes, you should. Accusing me of lying about a fash bash is offensive.

Oh? So Sparkalia is committing to turning the region over to We forgot how to run a good society?
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Postby Angeloid Astraea » Sun Sep 24, 2023 9:58 am

Wallenburg wrote:
Angeloid Astraea wrote:When I say that military is participating in an anti-fascist operation? Yes, you should. Accusing me of lying about a fash bash is offensive.

Oh? So Sparkalia is committing to turning the region over to We forgot how to run a good society?

I am not leading the operation, but that is what I expect to happen.

Honestly Wallenburg, if you're so distrusting of raiders that you can't trust one about an anti-fascist operation, then you can go ahead and contact Wolfandil Wolflandil of The Mystical Alliance, who is not a raider and is participating in the fash-bash operation as well.
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Postby Wallenburg » Sun Sep 24, 2023 10:00 am

Angeloid Astraea wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:Oh? So Sparkalia is committing to turning the region over to We forgot how to run a good society?

We are not leading the operation, but that is what we expect to happen.

Honestly Wallenburg, if you're so distrusting of raiders that you can't trust one about an anti-fascist operation, then you can go ahead and contact Wolfandil of The Mystical Alliance, who is not a raider and is participating in the fash-bash operation as well.

Your link indicates that your non-raider compatriot doesn't exist.
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Postby Angeloid Astraea » Sun Sep 24, 2023 10:02 am

Wallenburg wrote:
Angeloid Astraea wrote:We are not leading the operation, but that is what we expect to happen.

Honestly Wallenburg, if you're so distrusting of raiders that you can't trust one about an anti-fascist operation, then you can go ahead and contact Wolfandil of The Mystical Alliance, who is not a raider and is participating in the fash-bash operation as well.

Your link indicates that your non-raider compatriot doesn't exist.

Wolflandil, I forgot a letter. You could have spent the 10 seconds it takes to check the region of The Mystical Alliance which I also mentioned and has Wolflandil as an RO...
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Postby Spode Humbled Minions » Sun Sep 24, 2023 10:05 am

Wallenburg wrote:
Angeloid Astraea wrote:That's a fashbash, Wallenburg, not another raid.

Sure, I trust you, a resident of the raider region Sparkalia, to honestly and impartially represent the raider region Sparkalia's military operations.

This is a very dumb post in a sea of other dumb posts. TEO, as established earlier here by Koth, is suffering from “founder forgot that the ban button exists” syndrome, in which they don’t ban people whose views on trans and gay people really suck.

The primary goal of the liberation was- regardless of who got the authorship- to take the region away from TEO, because of that aforementioned problem. That goal is complete, why go out of your way to start a fight over Sparkalia taking the region here when that’s straight up not the point any of us were convened in this thread for in the first place?????
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Postby Wallenburg » Sun Sep 24, 2023 10:12 am

Spode Humbled Minions wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:Sure, I trust you, a resident of the raider region Sparkalia, to honestly and impartially represent the raider region Sparkalia's military operations.

This is a very dumb post in a sea of other dumb posts. TEO, as established earlier here by Koth, is suffering from “founder forgot that the ban button exists” syndrome, in which they don’t ban people whose views on trans and gay people really suck.

The primary goal of the liberation was- regardless of who got the authorship- to take the region away from TEO, because of that aforementioned problem. That goal is complete, why go out of your way to start a fight over Sparkalia taking the region here when that’s straight up not the point any of us were convened in this thread for in the first place?????

I would have thought that a defender would understand the relevance of whether a native controls a raided region to whether a liberation should or should not go through. Do you really need me to explain that to you?
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Postby Spode Humbled Minions » Sun Sep 24, 2023 10:40 am

Wallenburg wrote:
Spode Humbled Minions wrote:This is a very dumb post in a sea of other dumb posts. TEO, as established earlier here by Koth, is suffering from “founder forgot that the ban button exists” syndrome, in which they don’t ban people whose views on trans and gay people really suck.

The primary goal of the liberation was- regardless of who got the authorship- to take the region away from TEO, because of that aforementioned problem. That goal is complete, why go out of your way to start a fight over Sparkalia taking the region here when that’s straight up not the point any of us were convened in this thread for in the first place?????

I would have thought that a defender would understand the relevance of whether a native controls a raided region to whether a liberation should or should not go through. Do you really need me to explain that to you?

It would be as extraneous, unnecessary, and unrelated to the subject matter of this thread as these other posts have been, so I’ll politely decline.
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Postby Liberza » Sun Sep 24, 2023 10:54 am

The fash has already been bashed, and Alterante is not passworded afterwards. Finally, 0cala has suggested voting against this proposal anyways, so I will change my vote to against since it is now useless
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Postby Magecastle Embassy Building A5 » Sun Sep 24, 2023 2:15 pm

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Portzania wrote:I vote no. Thanks for the reminder though!

Actually, that's what i want.

Please vote against as this proposal has no use anyways!
The region was already liberated, and no, i dont know how it got liberated.

Very well, I've now switched my vote to against as a result of this request.
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Postby Angeloid Astraea » Sun Sep 24, 2023 3:44 pm

I'd like to think Wallenburg was alone in their doubts about the intentions of Sparkalia in liberating Alterante from TEO, and that such a statement is unnecessary, but in the event there is any doubt...

Speaking in my capacity as a member of the Trinity Command of the Sparkling Army, the military of Sparkalia plans to transfer custody of Alterante. We have not altered the region's history, put up our flag, tagged the WFE, or anything of that nature. We will not do anything of that nature between now and the eventual transfer of the region. The Sparkling Army is willing to liberate victims of fascist militaries and strike against fascist militaries without using any gains there-in for our own raider entertainment.
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Postby Xeknos » Sun Sep 24, 2023 5:26 pm

Angeloid Astraea wrote:I'd like to think Wallenburg was alone in their doubts about the intentions of Sparkalia in liberating Alterante from TEO, and that such a statement is unnecessary, but in the event there is any doubt...

Speaking in my capacity as a member of the Trinity Command of the Sparkling Army, the military of Sparkalia plans to transfer custody of Alterante. We have not altered the region's history, put up our flag, tagged the WFE, or anything of that nature. We will not do anything of that nature between now and the eventual transfer of the region. The Sparkling Army is willing to liberate victims of fascist militaries and strike against fascist militaries without using any gains there-in for our own raider entertainment.


Anti-Fash Raiders with Hearts of Gold. I like it.

This topic has been a roller coaster. On the one hand, I'm all for stomping the fash. On the other, apparently we hate Ocala which seems really strange and kind of petty.
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Postby Wolflandil » Sun Sep 24, 2023 10:30 pm

Angeloid Astraea wrote:-snip-

Well said.

Since I'm too lazy to go find and quote the quote locating me as the 'fenda who participated, it is true that this operation is purely antifascist in nature, with the purpose of denying TEO a trophy region. We are going to return Alterante to the natives, where they may decide what becomes of their region.

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Postby Sedgistan » Mon Sep 25, 2023 7:29 am

0cala wrote:Happy 10 pages of absolute BS! But really, this didn't need 10 pages.

A big reason this thread is full of low quality spam is your conduct here, e.g.
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That's all since your last 1 day ban for spamming up the competing proposal's thread. Take a *** 3 day ban for spamming *** this time. Take responsibility for your own actions on this site, and actually make an effort to follow the rules. You've lost 13 nations already for a multitude of rules violations; our patience for your antics is running short. When you return, and if this thread is still unlocked (no guarantee), then only post here if you are actually addressing the topic of the thread.

I note that others have made similar off-topic and spammy posts here, but not to the same extent. However, if they continue in that vein, they can expect to receive warnings/bans.

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Postby Galicia-Podolia » Mon Sep 25, 2023 9:49 am

why is this resolution losing the vote?
its pretty good.
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Postby Liberza » Mon Sep 25, 2023 6:48 pm

Galicia-Podolia wrote:why is this resolution losing the vote?
its pretty good.
full support.

The initial reason this resolution was losing the vote was because of 0cala’s conduct on the forums and other “petty” things. The main reason some are voting against is because 0cala asked it personally since Alterante has somehow, someway, already been liberated from its raiders. Well, kinda. That part is complicated.
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Postby United Crawfords » Mon Sep 25, 2023 7:26 pm

The Sovereign Nation Of The Republic of United Crawfords hereby states that we are against this idea. Countries should have protected borders!

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Postby Experina » Tue Sep 26, 2023 12:09 am

Why is this losing? it is something we all should support of, since liberation of a region form a illegitmate goverment is good
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Postby Outer Sparta » Tue Sep 26, 2023 1:13 am

Experina wrote:Why is this losing? it is something we all should support of, since liberation of a region form a illegitmate goverment is good

TEO are no longer in power and the current group in charge will eventually return control to Alternate's natives.
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Postby Experina » Tue Sep 26, 2023 3:10 am

Outer Sparta wrote:
Experina wrote:Why is this losing? it is something we all should support of, since liberation of a region form a illegitmate goverment is good

TEO are no longer in power and the current group in charge will eventually return control to Alternate's natives.

So they already are liberated?
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Postby Buhers Mk II » Tue Sep 26, 2023 7:29 am

Outer Sparta wrote:Alternate's natives.

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Postby Grethall » Tue Sep 26, 2023 10:45 am

The Ice States wrote:Support as written.

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Postby Democratic Socialist Republic of Germany » Tue Sep 26, 2023 11:43 am

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0cala wrote:The Security Council,

Reaffirming its commitment to anti-fascist action as outlined by SC #358,

Deeply concerned regarding the current situation in the region of Alterante, which has fallen under the control of occupying fascists who have locked the region behind a password secret from the natives of the region,

Detailing that the operation in Alterante by outside fascist forces is completely unacceptable.

Emphasizing the strong desire for Alterante to be freed from the malevolent influence of its current occupiers and returned to the rightful hands of the natives,

Determining that swift passage of this Liberation is crucial to restoring Alterante’s rightful autonomy and self-governance,

Hereby Liberates Alterante.

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Postby Repreteop » Tue Sep 26, 2023 11:47 am

Glad to see a resident of our region make a proposal. SUPPORT!!!
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