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by Honeydewistania » Sun Sep 24, 2023 8:51 am
Alger wrote:if you have egoquotes in your signature, touch grass
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by Portzania » Sun Sep 24, 2023 8:52 am
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by Herten » Sun Sep 24, 2023 8:55 am
Angeloid Astraea wrote:Herten wrote:As a German national I am quite simply appalled. This is not evidence nor have traditional stances on gender and sexuality enough weight to call someone fascist. I’ll remind you that these claims are slander (not only in a social contexts, but also legal ones)
As a NationStates player I am appalled by the aggressive non-roleplaying aspect of this proposal. This is basically a direct attack on the character of other participants with (I’ll be honest here) bullshit-evidence.
I would rather support morally dubious people than this half-assed attempt at nothing.
You're a German national? An AfD supporter, no doubt...
Have fun supporting this.
by Portzania » Sun Sep 24, 2023 8:56 am
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by Picairn » Sun Sep 24, 2023 8:58 am
Herten wrote:As a German national I am quite simply appalled. This is not evidence nor have traditional stances on gender and sexuality enough weight to call someone fascist. I’ll remind you that these claims are slander (not only in social contexts, but also legal ones)
As a NationStates player I am appalled by the aggressive non-roleplaying aspect of this proposal. This is basically a direct attack on the character of other participants with (I’ll be honest here) bullshit-evidence.
I would rather support morally dubious people than this half-assed attempt at nothing.
by Portzania » Sun Sep 24, 2023 9:00 am
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by Herten » Sun Sep 24, 2023 9:06 am
Picairn wrote:Herten wrote:As a German national I am quite simply appalled. This is not evidence nor have traditional stances on gender and sexuality enough weight to call someone fascist. I’ll remind you that these claims are slander (not only in social contexts, but also legal ones)
As a NationStates player I am appalled by the aggressive non-roleplaying aspect of this proposal. This is basically a direct attack on the character of other participants with (I’ll be honest here) bullshit-evidence.
I would rather support morally dubious people than this half-assed attempt at nothing.
North Bulgaristan is unabashedly fascist and he currently occupies the Scribe position in the region.
by Angeloid Astraea » Sun Sep 24, 2023 9:07 am
Honeydewistania wrote:I think we should do better than accusing random posters of being supporters of the AfD
by Improper Classifications » Sun Sep 24, 2023 9:09 am
Herten wrote:Also, check on some national policies of some participants here, you’ll find authoritarianism across the board.
by Picairn » Sun Sep 24, 2023 9:12 am
Herten wrote:Even if that’s true, what has one nation to do with the region as a whole?
Also, check on some national policies of some participants here, you’ll find authoritarianism across the board. This is ridiculous. This could very well be a reaction to those accusations. Why wasn’t evidence collected BEFORE the proposal? Why do we have to ask for it?
by Angeloid Astraea » Sun Sep 24, 2023 9:13 am
Herten wrote:Also, check on some national policies of some participants here, you’ll find authoritarianism across the board. This is ridiculous.
Herten wrote:This could very well be a reaction to those accusations. Why wasn’t evidence collected BEFORE the proposal? Why do we have to ask for it?
Second Sovereignty wrote:The evidence regarding fascism in The Eternal Order is plain to see, posted in this very thread and frankly, despite their objections otherwise, well known for some time among anyone who bothered to look.
Herten wrote:You’re probably not wrong, but, then again, the evidence consists of ~10kb of text.
by Herten » Sun Sep 24, 2023 9:19 am
Picairn wrote:Herten wrote:Even if that’s true, what has one nation to do with the region as a whole?
Also, check on some national policies of some participants here, you’ll find authoritarianism across the board. This is ridiculous. This could very well be a reaction to those accusations. Why wasn’t evidence collected BEFORE the proposal? Why do we have to ask for it?
Nobody cares about NS stats. I myself RP as a constitutional monarchy despite not having Monarchy as a policy.
The region's RMB is riddled with fascist and anti-LGBT content as proven by Koth.
Why is this proposal singled out for evidence? I don't see you making the same demands for previous Liberations, in fact this thread is the only one you have participated in.
by Mlakhavia » Sun Sep 24, 2023 9:23 am
by Wallenburg » Sun Sep 24, 2023 9:24 am
by Picairn » Sun Sep 24, 2023 9:26 am
Herten wrote:Previous proposals had compelling arguments? The so-called evidence here is a joke.
Also the authors conduct is quite frankly childish and dismissive.
And yes. I was mostly lurking before, but let’s be honest here: this is not the way things should be handled here. I am missing respect towards the platform and its users.
by Angeloid Astraea » Sun Sep 24, 2023 9:27 am
Wallenburg wrote:Seeing as the region has simply switched hands to another raiding group, I will continue to support this.
by Herten » Sun Sep 24, 2023 9:31 am
Angeloid Astraea wrote:Herten wrote:
Even if that’s true, what has one nation to do with the region as a whole?
They're a member of the regional government. The leader of the region knows they're fascist and allows them to remain there, the same leader that commands the military that this proposal sought to Liberate a region from the occupation of. Other nations in the region have displayed behaviors typical of fascists. Asking this question is playing stupid.Herten wrote:Also, check on some national policies of some participants here, you’ll find authoritarianism across the board. This is ridiculous.
Fascism is not the same as just authoritarianism, and being unabashedly fascist in your regional theme is not the same as having a nation that has an authoritarian policy in its Policies tab. You're being ridiculous here...Herten wrote:This could very well be a reaction to those accusations. Why wasn’t evidence collected BEFORE the proposal? Why do we have to ask for it?
I'll quote Second Sovereignty as the answer to this!Second Sovereignty wrote:The evidence regarding fascism in The Eternal Order is plain to see, posted in this very thread and frankly, despite their objections otherwise, well known for some time among anyone who bothered to look.Herten wrote:You’re probably not wrong, but, then again, the evidence consists of ~10kb of text.
What in the world does the filesize of the text have to do with the strength of the evidence?
by Angeloid Astraea » Sun Sep 24, 2023 9:34 am
Herten wrote:The way you’re demanding conformity that aligns with your world views is more fascist than you probably think.
I see no evidence that supports the insinuations about the region as a whole. I only see weak personal attacks on the basis of a few lines of text that have no direct connection to fascism WHATSOEVER.
by Herten » Sun Sep 24, 2023 9:35 am
Picairn wrote:Herten wrote:Previous proposals had compelling arguments? The so-called evidence here is a joke.
Also the authors conduct is quite frankly childish and dismissive.
And yes. I was mostly lurking before, but let’s be honest here: this is not the way things should be handled here. I am missing respect towards the platform and its users.
You sound ignorant actually, this isn't the first controversial proposal. Condemn The Communist Bloc proposals were a running joke of the SC for a while for poorly written and researched arguments, and were consistently voted down.
Respect? Since when did the SC become respectable in the first place? Bhang Bhang Duc is well-known for his "badge hunt" catchphrase against new SC authors. 0cala may have overreacted but jumping on a new author who doesn't even speak English well is utter disrespect, really.
by Angeloid Astraea » Sun Sep 24, 2023 9:37 am
Herten wrote:Well, my nation was part of the CB funnily enough.
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