by 0cala » Mon Sep 11, 2023 3:25 pm
by The Ice States » Mon Sep 11, 2023 3:27 pm
by IMPROPER CLASSIFICATIONS » Mon Sep 11, 2023 3:31 pm
by Volstrostia » Mon Sep 11, 2023 4:53 pm
by 0cala » Mon Sep 11, 2023 4:56 pm
Volstrostia wrote:Full support, although you might want to clarify that TEO is considered fascist - something along the lines of "Establishing the Eternal Order as a fascist military that has seized Alterante" would probably suffice.
by IMPROPER CLASSIFICATIONS » Mon Sep 11, 2023 4:57 pm
by Astrobolt » Mon Sep 11, 2023 7:48 pm
by Fort Concord » Mon Sep 11, 2023 7:51 pm
0cala wrote:Recognizing that the activities of Alterante's fascist forces are completely unacceptable.
by The Ice States » Mon Sep 11, 2023 7:58 pm
Hello!
There's been a draft posted for a WA proposal "Liberate Alterante". If passed, this would allow for the removal of the occupiers from The Eternal Order. The draft obviously isn't mine, but I want to check if you are fine with this draft? If so, can you please post to that end in the draft thread?
Thanks!
~The Ice States/Magecastle,
35x WA Author.
by We forgot how to run a good society » Tue Sep 12, 2023 11:35 am
by Mlakhavia » Tue Sep 12, 2023 11:39 am
by The Hinterplace » Tue Sep 12, 2023 1:49 pm
The Hinterplace fully supports the Resolution proposed by the Delegation of 0cala. We will always support Resolutions of regions that are not fascist or regions that have been Raided by fascists. We do not agree with the Delegation from Mlakhavia, as the policy of not mentioning Raiders in Liberations is revisionist.
by King Nephmir II » Tue Sep 12, 2023 3:00 pm
The Hinterplace wrote:OOC: Since when is The Eternal Order fascist? Did I miss something?
by Valinka » Tue Sep 12, 2023 3:04 pm
King Nephmir II wrote:The Hinterplace wrote:OOC: Since when is The Eternal Order fascist? Did I miss something?
My refusal to provide full devotion to radical leftist ideology and subsequent withdrawal from raider unity forces permanently brands us as "Facist" despite the fact that we have iterated on numerous occasions that we subscribe to no ideology and maintain and fight for in-game causes rather than real world ideologies of any kind.
They do not respect our neutrality and respectful free speech and wished for The EO to suppress anything they arbitrarily decide to be hate speech no matter how respectful the point was argued. I refused, as founder and king of The EO, to subjugate my people to such whims and refused to force support for an ideology of any kind.
We do not raid in the name of Facism, obviously, but that is the only ammunition they have to combat us.
by Buhers Mk II » Tue Sep 12, 2023 3:32 pm
by King Nephmir II » Tue Sep 12, 2023 3:56 pm
Buhers Mk II wrote:I was a founding member of the region. Who cares?
I'm not opposed to the idea of Alterante being liberated from these so-called fascist forces, but I also feel like it's a bit trivial to do so. It was never a very important or influential region (at least to my memory), and I don't see why a proposal is being written about it out of all possible regions.
Of course, I have no experience in the WA, so any corrections or responses are more than welcome. Just sharing my thoughts.
by The Commodore » Tue Sep 12, 2023 4:23 pm
by 0cala » Tue Sep 12, 2023 4:27 pm
The Commodore wrote:Seems like you either back up the fascist claim here or don't make it at all.
I have no idea what this eternal thing is, but I do know if a proposal makes a serious claim that may not be true it should not pass. When I search the Gameplay forum for references to this group the most recent significant post I found was a raid report where they were raiding with LWU, and it was from like three months ago. Unlike the eternal thing, I do know who LWU is, and I don't buy they work with fascists. Proposal threads should stand on their own, so I feel like I have gone above and beyond to try to understand the allegation hurled here and I am left with serious doubts about the author. Hopefully there is just a lot that isn't being said which should be, but throwing that label around lightly is very serious.
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