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by Clussy Paradise » Tue May 30, 2023 8:28 am
by Kenowa » Tue May 30, 2023 8:46 am
Clussy Paradise wrote:What is there to revisit? Incels are pathetic losers who are not interested in introspection or self-improvement, and would much rather rape and murder women. Fuck them.
by Incelastan » Tue May 30, 2023 8:50 am
Kenowa wrote:Clussy Paradise wrote:What is there to revisit? Incels are pathetic losers who are not interested in introspection or self-improvement, and would much rather rape and murder women. Fuck them.
You'd be surprised at the things that have gotten out from incels that are worthy of analisis for modern egalitarianism. Guess there's not much of a topic after the 50th "You are gonna die alone, this is why." talk.
by Techocracy101010 » Tue May 30, 2023 8:55 am
Clussy Paradise wrote:What is there to revisit? Incels are pathetic losers who are not interested in introspection or self-improvement, and would much rather rape and murder women. Fuck them.
by Eternal Algerstonia » Tue May 30, 2023 9:03 am
by Saiwana » Tue May 30, 2023 3:01 pm
by Techocracy101010 » Tue May 30, 2023 11:51 pm
Saiwana wrote:I consider myself to be an invol-unemploy-cel if there is such a word?
Other people might find it easy to get a job, but I can't more often than not. I'm either too overqualified or underqualified for what I want to get paid for or otherwise am not a good enough fit everywhere I go, so every HR person has it out to reject me. For lack of charisma and soft skills appeal, I try too hard to get different hard skills or industry certifications but if I choose the wrong ones, it doesn't help me get ahead any and just makes me poorer.
Beyond this internship I got that'll end eventually, I don't know what to do without maybe getting burned getting another qualification that I maybe don't even need to get or will hurt more than help. I will learn any bullshit the world can throw at me, if I knew it had some staying power and was valuable, without grinding more years to get a better formal degree that will require tons of student debt.
by Point Blob » Wed May 31, 2023 4:06 am
Galloism wrote:This is actually kind of an interesting analysis. I disagree that it necessarily leads to spamming dick pics (random dick pics and random tit pics are both super common online and both kind of annoying), but I do think it's interesting the way you're describing the dynamic here.
It is true that online dating has been a disaster, but I hadn't really considered the opposite side of the coin - how women's sexism might actually be driving lower effort participation among men because they're playing it as a numbers game, and then this could drive compensating behavior among women as a result, creating a really negative feedback loop.
Like I said, I disagree this necessarily leads to spamming dick pics, but the mechanism you've laid out there is actually extremely plausible and follows game theory (which most things actually do).
Clussy Paradise wrote:What is there to revisit? Incels are pathetic losers who are not interested in introspection or self-improvement, and would much rather rape and murder women. Fuck them.
by Rocky Mountain Collective » Wed May 31, 2023 8:58 pm
Kenowa wrote:-snip-
by Ethel mermania » Thu Jun 01, 2023 6:07 am
Kenowa wrote:Clussy Paradise wrote:What is there to revisit? Incels are pathetic losers who are not interested in introspection or self-improvement, and would much rather rape and murder women. Fuck them.
You'd be surprised at the things that have gotten out from incels that are worthy of analisis for modern egalitarianism. Guess there's not much of a topic after the 50th "You are gonna die alone, this is why." talk.
by Heavenly Assault » Thu Jun 01, 2023 7:40 pm
by Techocracy101010 » Thu Jun 01, 2023 9:27 pm
Heavenly Assault wrote:TBH, I chuckled when I first saw this thread. The reason being that I just recently turned down a girl at work who propositioned me for sex (by asking through a mutual coworker of ours), along with dealing with a randy, older lady there who likes to occasionally smack my ass. It's hard to imagine people being incels because of how ridiculous it is to manage to even be one, but the thing I've learned is that incels always make excuses.
It's not a matter of attractiveness or status because the world is filled with ugly and poor people. Ugly and poor people fuck all the time and I would wager even moreso than attractive, wealthier people. Nay, it's a matter of attitude. Being an imageboard veteran, I went through my phase of trying to give incels advice to try and help them out. They don't want it or don't use it because fundamentally, they have an issue with changing themselves, especially with the work involved to do it. They blame everyone else but themselves and when they do finally look in the mirror, they crumble in the face of adversity. The fact is that most incels have bad character. For example, there was an incel who wasn't bad looking and decided to bike around and talk to girls on YouTube. I think he got arrested. Incels blamed the women, but failed to realize that he was socially awkward and seemed desperate, yet they thought it was because he wasn't physically attractive enough. And this is something they don't understand when they regurgitate the "Just talk to her Bro" meme. They think it's a matter of superficial issues. It's not. It's a matter of character. You literally don't even have to talk to girls to get them attracted to you. I've worked at Hooters, WingHouse, a stripclub, along with other places and go to school. I've always eventually gotten some attention from girls inadvertently because I would actually ignore them because I was doing my own thing. I literally didn't even have to "talk to them, bro" for them to approach me. I suppose this was confidence, because people used to tease me about the distinctive way I carried myself (one of my nicknames was "pimpwalk" at WingHouse). The point is that the relationship you have with yourself reflects the relationship you have with the world. If you're not secure with yourself, the world won't be with you. If you don't love yourself, neither will anyone else.
The end.
by Heavenly Assault » Thu Jun 01, 2023 9:35 pm
Techocracy101010 wrote:Heavenly Assault wrote:TBH, I chuckled when I first saw this thread. The reason being that I just recently turned down a girl at work who propositioned me for sex (by asking through a mutual coworker of ours), along with dealing with a randy, older lady there who likes to occasionally smack my ass. It's hard to imagine people being incels because of how ridiculous it is to manage to even be one, but the thing I've learned is that incels always make excuses.
It's not a matter of attractiveness or status because the world is filled with ugly and poor people. Ugly and poor people fuck all the time and I would wager even moreso than attractive, wealthier people. Nay, it's a matter of attitude. Being an imageboard veteran, I went through my phase of trying to give incels advice to try and help them out. They don't want it or don't use it because fundamentally, they have an issue with changing themselves, especially with the work involved to do it. They blame everyone else but themselves and when they do finally look in the mirror, they crumble in the face of adversity. The fact is that most incels have bad character. For example, there was an incel who wasn't bad looking and decided to bike around and talk to girls on YouTube. I think he got arrested. Incels blamed the women, but failed to realize that he was socially awkward and seemed desperate, yet they thought it was because he wasn't physically attractive enough. And this is something they don't understand when they regurgitate the "Just talk to her Bro" meme. They think it's a matter of superficial issues. It's not. It's a matter of character. You literally don't even have to talk to girls to get them attracted to you. I've worked at Hooters, WingHouse, a stripclub, along with other places and go to school. I've always eventually gotten some attention from girls inadvertently because I would actually ignore them because I was doing my own thing. I literally didn't even have to "talk to them, bro" for them to approach me. I suppose this was confidence, because people used to tease me about the distinctive way I carried myself (one of my nicknames was "pimpwalk" at WingHouse). The point is that the relationship you have with yourself reflects the relationship you have with the world. If you're not secure with yourself, the world won't be with you. If you don't love yourself, neither will anyone else.
The end.
What the hell is this love yourself crap i keep hearing loving yourself achieves jack shit and has nothing to do with how much success you have i know because some of the guys i have seen with who are popular with women are the dumbest most self centered bastards i have seen who lie cheat and steal shit and have hefty drug hobbits ( i know its wrong but auto correct has decided and its too amusing) . Self love is the biggest crock of garbage in life and is made out to be this magical thing . Self love wont get you through a pt test if you dont work at it self love wont help you do calc self love wont help you negotiate a better salary its utterly useless its like trusting in humanity or having hope all of which are forms of self delusion that hinder actual realization of objective reality .
by Techocracy101010 » Thu Jun 01, 2023 9:42 pm
Heavenly Assault wrote:Techocracy101010 wrote:
What the hell is this love yourself crap i keep hearing loving yourself achieves jack shit and has nothing to do with how much success you have i know because some of the guys i have seen with who are popular with women are the dumbest most self centered bastards i have seen who lie cheat and steal shit and have hefty drug hobbits ( i know its wrong but auto correct has decided and its too amusing) . Self love is the biggest crock of garbage in life and is made out to be this magical thing . Self love wont get you through a pt test if you dont work at it self love wont help you do calc self love wont help you negotiate a better salary its utterly useless its like trusting in humanity or having hope all of which are forms of self delusion that hinder actual realization of objective reality .
This reply is a parody....right?
by Heavenly Assault » Thu Jun 01, 2023 9:47 pm
Techocracy101010 wrote:Heavenly Assault wrote:This reply is a parody....right?
no self love has been of zero utility in my life it opened me up to easy abuse and exploitation. When trying your best and just trusting you will do things right leads to getting screamed at yelled things slammed etc you learn its bullshit fast
by Techocracy101010 » Thu Jun 01, 2023 9:53 pm
Heavenly Assault wrote:Techocracy101010 wrote:
no self love has been of zero utility in my life it opened me up to easy abuse and exploitation. When trying your best and just trusting you will do things right leads to getting screamed at yelled things slammed etc you learn its bullshit fast
Alright, what do you define as "self-love"?
by Heavenly Assault » Thu Jun 01, 2023 9:54 pm
by Techocracy101010 » Thu Jun 01, 2023 9:57 pm
Heavenly Assault wrote:Alright, Tech, I'm gonna try and sort out all of this. Give me a second.
by Based Illinois » Thu Jun 01, 2023 9:58 pm
by Techocracy101010 » Thu Jun 01, 2023 10:03 pm
Based Illinois wrote:I'm gonna ask something, and please don't take me as a troll, i'm being genuine, if gruff.
Who cares?
Incel's, off the internet, are a non-entity. Like, one or two dude a shooting over the past couple of years, in a part of the world with hundreds of millions fo people wracked with violence. They have no political sway, no corporate or government support, and you're more likely to get shot by any other kind of extremist ( hell even your neighbor ) than these guys. The only reason people outside of extreme right circles know about them is because MSM needs a boogyman.
So who care's about 'em? Unless of course, we are discussing the the role gender in modern western society for intellectual pursuits?
by Terminus Station » Thu Jun 01, 2023 10:07 pm
"What happens to a Communist when he/she is given the most work "according to their ability" but are given nothing in return "according to their needs?"
Being Trans is ok, gender isn't assigned.
-->BANNED FOR TROLLING NAZIS<--
by Based Illinois » Thu Jun 01, 2023 10:08 pm
Techocracy101010 wrote:Based Illinois wrote:I'm gonna ask something, and please don't take me as a troll, i'm being genuine, if gruff.
Who cares?
Incel's, off the internet, are a non-entity. Like, one or two dude a shooting over the past couple of years, in a part of the world with hundreds of millions fo people wracked with violence. They have no political sway, no corporate or government support, and you're more likely to get shot by any other kind of extremist ( hell even your neighbor ) than these guys. The only reason people outside of extreme right circles know about them is because MSM needs a boogyman.
So who care's about 'em? Unless of course, we are discussing the the role gender in modern western society for intellectual pursuits?
incels are not actually the issue the issue is the large amount of future forever single 16-30 yo right now not having a so or family spikes crime and terrorist risks throw in a shitty economy no safety nets and easy guns well your setting up a pressure cooker thats gonna explode at some point. Not because of no gf but because of various social tensions that play out. Your average terry is 24-36 male generally has some post secondary education no economic prospects and no wife/ meaningful family
by Terminus Station » Thu Jun 01, 2023 10:11 pm
Techocracy101010 wrote:Based Illinois wrote:I'm gonna ask something, and please don't take me as a troll, i'm being genuine, if gruff.
Who cares?
Incel's, off the internet, are a non-entity. Like, one or two dude a shooting over the past couple of years, in a part of the world with hundreds of millions fo people wracked with violence. They have no political sway, no corporate or government support, and you're more likely to get shot by any other kind of extremist ( hell even your neighbor ) than these guys. The only reason people outside of extreme right circles know about them is because MSM needs a boogyman.
So who care's about 'em? Unless of course, we are discussing the the role gender in modern western society for intellectual pursuits?
incels are not actually the issue the issue is the large amount of future forever single 16-30 yo right now not having a so or family spikes crime and terrorist risks throw in a shitty economy no safety nets and easy guns well your setting up a pressure cooker thats gonna explode at some point. Not because of no gf but because of various social tensions that play out. Your average terry is 24-36 male generally has some post secondary education no economic prospects and no wife/ meaningful family
"What happens to a Communist when he/she is given the most work "according to their ability" but are given nothing in return "according to their needs?"
Being Trans is ok, gender isn't assigned.
-->BANNED FOR TROLLING NAZIS<--
by Techocracy101010 » Thu Jun 01, 2023 10:12 pm
Terminus Station wrote:its interesting to see how scientific circles have analyzed the incel phenomena. A good portion of it is their belief that they've missed developmental milestones, such as "I never kissed a girl", "I've never had sex", and how that bitterness in that lack of control turns towards possessiveness and entitlement towards women and becomes "I never kissed a girl because girls dont give nice guys like me a chance".
They can't force the change unto other people and start blaming external sources, like it was supposed to happen but girls kept them away from some sort of nebulous life goal.
They can't do anything about it so they internalize their failures as someone else's fault to cope. It never occurs to them that they can pursue self improvement and that being in a relationship isn't for everyone. They're trapped in the mindset of this idealized nonexistent expectation of how men are supposed to have sex and success, and lack the insight that its up to them to develop the personal skills to make it happen,and is not something thats just supposed to happen by a set time.
by Techocracy101010 » Thu Jun 01, 2023 10:14 pm
Terminus Station wrote:Techocracy101010 wrote:
incels are not actually the issue the issue is the large amount of future forever single 16-30 yo right now not having a so or family spikes crime and terrorist risks throw in a shitty economy no safety nets and easy guns well your setting up a pressure cooker thats gonna explode at some point. Not because of no gf but because of various social tensions that play out. Your average terry is 24-36 male generally has some post secondary education no economic prospects and no wife/ meaningful family
I agree that those are all problems, but its still their responsibility to be decent human beings. Having a shitty life isnt a free pass to shit on others.
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