Incelastan wrote:Ifreann wrote:You obviously think that it's women who can't be trusted because you feel the need to make secret recordings when you are alone with women. If this was simple paranoia then you would record your private interactions with everyone, regardless of gender, regardless of whether you're at work or not.
If there was a rash of accusations of male-on-male harassment, that would be a reasonable conclusion on your part. As there isn't such, I'll take your assumptions with the mountain of salt that they deserve. It's neither misogyny nor paranoia. It's realism mixed with cynicism and pessimism. Justified cynicism and pessimism, I might add.
It's paranoia and misogyny. Obviously there are all kinds of accusations of sexual harassment being made all the time, all over the world, that you never hear about. And whether you are accused of sexually harassing someone obviously has nothing to do with whether there has or has not been a "rash" of such accusations. But you only record your interactions with women at the workplace.
Also, what if I was the one sexually harassed? Hypothetical, but possible. Shouldn't I have the means to pursue my case, the evidence to strengthen it? The very fact that I do not fear what a recording might reveal, in any case, shows that I have nothing to hide myself.
Of course you have something to hide. The fact that you're making secret recordings of your interactions with women. That behaviour alone could lose you your job if it comes to light.
As for outside of work, the odds are that I'm already in a public place unless I'm at home. There would be plenty of witnesses.
But sometimes there aren't witnesses. And witnesses aren't always reliable. How strange that your supposedly reasonable cynicism and pessimism disappears once you clock out.
Incelastan wrote:Senkaku wrote:oh word? please elaborate for us, what “excesses” and ”corrections of the processes of handling” and which “certain kinds”?
Do I have to spell it out for you? The collapse of due process in harassment cases, especially on college, not to mention how subjective and shifting the definition has become. It needs to be a permanent, static, objective standard, not based upon the latest trends or one's personal butthurt feelings. It needs to be a clear, consistent standard that is immovable and undeniable, period. Objectivity is needed, not subjectivity. It needs to consist of pressure or coercion to perform favors or services or permit acts out of fear of retaliation or something of the sort. And the due process needs to remain effective.
In the meantime, I remain vindicated in my eternal cynicism and pessimism about society. Especially about its imminent collapse.
So because of the collapse of "due process" in college disciplinary proceedings, you secretly record your interactions with women at your workplace, but only at your workplace.