Regarding Restorationism

[HISPIDA]

i think JWs are far more harmful than mormons. most mormons just kinda... exist. i've only met maybe, what, 1 or 2 who were zealots?

Nah. While JWs are even more cult-y and unable to function in society, beyond door knocking, they basically don’t do anything to hurt people outside their cult communities and are more often the victims of persecution than perpetrators. Since JWs believe participating in politics is sinful, they rarely vote and have historically mostly faced backlash for their refusal to serve in wars or swear loyalty to governments they live under, albeit for a dumber reason than conscientious objectors and dissidents. They’re also not extremely racist, but rather diverse. Compare that to Mormons, who terrorized basically everyone and established theocratic communities and hellholes like Utah.

fair.

[Floofybit]

i think JWs are far more harmful than mormons. most mormons just kinda... exist. i've only met maybe, what, 1 or 2 who were zealots?

Nah. While JWs are even more cult-y and unable to function in society, beyond door knocking, they basically don’t do anything to hurt people outside their cult communities and are more often the victims of persecution than perpetrators. Since JWs believe participating in politics is sinful, they rarely vote and have historically mostly faced backlash for their refusal to serve in wars or swear loyalty to governments they live under, albeit for a dumber reason than conscientious objectors and dissidents. They’re also not extremely racist, but rather diverse. Compare that to Mormons, who terrorized basically everyone and established theocratic communities and hellholes like Utah.

I don't remember the part at church that said "minority races and lesser than us."

[Heavenly Assault]

So NSG, I've been thinking lately about churches such as the Quivers, the Jehovah's Witnesses, and the Mormons. I personally find them to be almost cultlike in instances, and harmful for the individual and the society. This is due to rampant misogyny, homophobia, and racism within these churches, as well as the doctrine that is embedded into members by the churches, namely that the Church is always right, that certain people are just superior, and that if you think outside their doctrine, you are not as good a person as everyone else, and you will go to hell or an equivalent.

Doesn't sound like much difference from the rest of the Abrahamic cancer (Judaism, Christianity, Islam).

[Portzania]

I don't live anywhere near Mormons, hell I don't even live in the same country as Mormons. Not a fan of their beliefs, though I suppose we all are fellow Christians in the end I guess.

[Floofybit]

Also, what's a quiver?

[El Lazaro]

Also, what's a quiver?

I looked it up and apparently it’s a conservative movement that thinks women should have constant sex without contraception at their husbands’ demand so they can be the most productive baby factories possible because reasons.

Huh. This feels like it’s either a weird kink or a convoluted way to justify abuse. Probably both, actually.

[What is the world really]

The JWs is a cult that needs to be banned.

[Portzania]

What the protestant reformation does to a mf

[What is the world really]

What the protestant reformation does to a mf

I don't care that the JWs are protestant or not (they are not) I care about the fact that they abused countless people (my mother among them.)

[Portzania]

What the protestant reformation does to a mf

I don't care that the JWs are protestant or not (they are not) I care about the fact that they abused countless people (my mother among them.)

ok

[HISPIDA]

What the protestant reformation does to a mf

i mean at least mormons aren't christian in the first place so you can't blame us for them

[New Dominioan]

I’ll be honest, I don’t think Mormons are even Christian and they really annoy me when they try to preach to me. But it’s whatever. Let em worship, if we ban Mormonism, it pisses off an entire state. Besides, their beliefs don’t seem to harmful to me. Compared to even mainstream Christianity, some of the Old Testament is just as bad as the supposed worst parts of Mormonism.

[Floofybit]

I’ll be honest, I don’t think Mormons are even Christian and they really annoy me when they try to preach to me. But it’s whatever. Let em worship, if we ban Mormonism, it pisses off an entire state. Besides, their beliefs don’t seem to harmful to me. Compared to even mainstream Christianity, some of the Old Testament is just as bad as the supposed worst parts of Mormonism.

If they annoy you just tell them to stop lol.

[The Holy Therns]

Whole thing's pretty absurd, if you ask me. Which you didn't, but if you did, that's what I'd say.

"Bane of society" is a little sharp, but eh, maybe.

[Floofybit]

How is it more of a bane than other religions?

[Corporate Collective Salvation]

What the protestant reformation does to a mf

i mean at least mormons aren't christian in the first place so you can't blame us for them

Catholics had been purging heretic collectives with somewhat off putting, but not necessarily dangerous, philosophy throughout pre-Lutheran history.

I am not culturally comfortable around most Mormons, but as a whole with cosmetic flaws aside, they have one of the more better for them overall positive lifestyles amongst American cultures.

I would rather suffer the occasional social contact with them, and even Latter Day Saints, than most of the self-righteous pedagogues clubbing me over the head with precepts not sufficiently grounded in a school of objective thought to take half as seriously as they do.

It is ironic that I can have a more reasonable Bible conversation with a pseudo-Christian than with a secularist who self-righteously operates under the conceit that every convention immaculately birthed in secularism stands above all scrutiny.
I am reminded of fire wielding medieval clergy for all of the intellectual honesty and tolerance shown to those who do not unquestionably prostrate themselves before them.

[Kubud Kegh]

Nah. While JWs are even more cult-y and unable to function in society, beyond door knocking, they basically don’t do anything to hurt people outside their cult communities and are more often the victims of persecution than perpetrators. Since JWs believe participating in politics is sinful, they rarely vote and have historically mostly faced backlash for their refusal to serve in wars or swear loyalty to governments they live under, albeit for a dumber reason than conscientious objectors and dissidents. They’re also not extremely racist, but rather diverse. Compare that to Mormons, who terrorized basically everyone and established theocratic communities and hellholes like Utah.

I don't remember the part at church that said "minority races and lesser than us."

Bro they literally think that black people had their skin turned dark as a punishment

[Floofybit]

I don't remember the part at church that said "minority races and lesser than us."

Bro they literally think that black people had their skin turned dark as a punishment

That was hundred of years ago. For ONE generation.

[What is the world really]

Bro they literally think that black people had their skin turned dark as a punishment

That was hundred of years ago. For ONE generation.

you didn't allow black people into your 'universal' priesthood until 1978. And don't you believe that native americans and pacific islanders were also cursed with dark skin?

[Bewaffnete Krafte]

Bro they literally think that black people had their skin turned dark as a punishment

That was hundred of years ago. For ONE generation.

Mormons believing that or it actually happening?

[Cuba 2022 RP]

Alright….who voted for Mormonism to be made mandatory?

[Floofybit]

That was hundred of years ago. For ONE generation.

you didn't allow black people into your 'universal' priesthood until 1978. And don't you believe that native americans and pacific islanders were also cursed with dark skin?

I tend not to care because that curse isn't on the Earth anymore. Also, why do you assume were racist. It's 2023, not 1978. And they can receive the preisthood in the spirit world

[Farnhamia]

So NSG, I've been thinking lately about churches such as the Quivers, the Jehovah's Witnesses, and the Mormons. I personally find them to be almost cultlike in instances, and harmful for the individual and the society. This is due to rampant misogyny, homophobia, and racism within these churches, as well as the doctrine that is embedded into members by the churches, namely that the Church is always right, that certain people are just superior, and that if you think outside their doctrine, you are not as good a person as everyone else, and you will go to hell or an equivalent.

Doesn't sound like much difference from the rest of the Abrahamic cancer (Judaism, Christianity, Islam).

*** 1 day ban for trolling ***

[Kubud Kegh]

you didn't allow black people into your 'universal' priesthood until 1978. And don't you believe that native americans and pacific islanders were also cursed with dark skin?

I tend not to care because that curse isn't on the Earth anymore. Also, why do you assume were racist. It's 2023, not 1978. And they can receive the preisthood in the spirit world

Counterpoint: you have sex with animals

[Zeorus]

speaking as someone who made being Mormon one of the main facets of their NSGP persona for close to a decade:

it's a scam. burn it all down.