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Postby The Great Nevada Overlord » Wed Mar 29, 2023 9:54 pm

I don't know why, but lately I've been thinking about how quickly we are approaching "the future" (2030-2070).

I haven't seen anyone talk about how "the future" was in like... 2020 in the movies of the 80s and 90s. And now that we are in THOSE movies futures, now the new dates are 2030 or 2040.

So, what will the year 2030 look like? It's only in 7 years.
I honestly think that either in 2030 or close to 2030 we will have an AI synth. Literally just take an Alexa, some Chat-GPT V5 and a robo body and you have a highly intelligent, seemingly almost human, robot.

Drones will dominate warfare, the ability to fight long battles with no casualties has been a dream by our nations for a long time, and I honestly think that Ukraine has opened the door for robot warfare.

The collapse of the GOP and and a nosedive for the Democrats.

1. The GOP.
The GOP can't even figure out who they want for 2024, and I doubt that this DeSantis-Trump divide will solve itself. Most likely the GOP will keep making bad decisions with no leader to rally around, I honestly think that three different parties could split off. A Q-Anon pro Trump party, a populist pro DeSantis party, and a back to good 'ol days Regan 80s styled party.

2. The Democrats.
The Dems have the Senate and Presidency and yet have refused to do anything and blame all problems on Republicans. Biden could easily sign an executive order calling for Florida to end their shenanigans and to reinstate legal abortion across the nation, and yet he still sits there... blaming Republicans.

I don't think that Putin will be ousted.
Yes a definitive Ukrainian victory is guaranteed, but Putin has way to much support, plus he'll just blame the loss on NATO... and that isn't exactly wrong. He'll just say that Russia was the real winners and that NATO had broken international law or something and that HE isn't the problem.
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Postby Northern Socialist Council Republics » Wed Mar 29, 2023 10:05 pm

In 2030, people will do the same nonsense that they have always done, except they will do it with new and exciting tools that old-timers will disapprove of.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Wed Mar 29, 2023 10:38 pm

People have some strange ideas of what Executive Orders are and what they actually can do.

Anyway, I'm from the generation that was raised on the impending end of the world only to come of age and have everyone going 'j/k, the world's gonna continue, guess you should have made plans all along."

So while some shit has gotten worse and other things have passed the point of no return, given into doom and gloom predictions...I already fell for that once. I could see the gradual rise of right wing terrorism becoming harder and harder to excuse, ignore, or deflect. If the Republicans find themselves unable to find daylight between them and people who blow up buildings or whatever other dumb thing they get it in their head to do, that and only that would be a knife in the back of the Republican Party. Otherwise they either continue to win enough elections to be part of the power ping pong game and they keep doubling down on fear mongering and othering or they find they're getting diminishing returns and then someone will come along and turn the party that direction.

By 2040 we'll have five theoretical years of just BEV new car sales which will almost certainly come with an unhealthy does of 'solved it...'meaning at best we'll just slightly slow the process. But by then the shift will be closer to adjusting our efforts to adapting to the new climate. Zoomers will enter their 40s which will mean that their perception of the 2020s will be all out of control but get stupid out of hand by 2050 as pattern dictates. Also when they younger generation tells them all the ways they're doing it wrong they'll get indignant. Again as is the custom.

There'll probably be a shift in global power and influence by it will have happened long before we notice it's happening.
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Postby Fractalnavel » Thu Mar 30, 2023 2:14 am

Cannot think of a name wrote:[...]
There'll probably be a shift in global power and influence by it will have happened long before we notice it's happening.

Like now, probably. Although, as I'm not noticing, I don't know what it is.

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Postby Ethel mermania » Thu Mar 30, 2023 3:42 am

We will be learning Chinese.
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Postby Floofybit » Thu Mar 30, 2023 5:34 am

Hopefully people come to their senses
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Postby Federated Mandate » Thu Mar 30, 2023 8:15 am

I try to have hope for the near future, but nothing's really guaranteed. I at least hope that the major polluters get their shit together and do something about climate change that is more than just a few concessions. Buuuuut... that requires international cooperation, which is definitely something I don't see happening any time soon...
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Postby Zanderlock » Thu Mar 30, 2023 8:19 am

https://climateclock.world/
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Postby Dimetrodon Empire » Thu Mar 30, 2023 8:48 am

Ethel mermania wrote:We will be learning Chinese.

China is running out of water: https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/artic ... nd-vietnam


Zanderlock wrote:https://climateclock.world/
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The truth. Those in power would rather doom millions rather than do the right thing, and thus, that deadline will expire.
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Postby Haganham » Thu Mar 30, 2023 8:50 am

Northern Socialist Council Republics wrote:In 2030, people will do the same nonsense that they have always done, except they will do it with new and exciting tools that old-timers will disapprove of.

I have been thinking about how the moral panic about ChatGPT reminds me of the panics there were when I was in school about using Google and Wikipedia instead of real books and the library.
Imagine reading a signature, but over the course of it the quality seems to deteriorate and it gets wose an wose, where the swenetence stwucture and gwammer rewerts to a pwoint of uttew non swence, an u jus dont wanna wead it anymwore (o´ω`o) awd twa wol owdewl iws jus awfwul (´・ω・`);. bwt tw sinawtur iwswnwt obwer nyet, it gwos own an own an own an own. uwu wanyaa stwop weadwing bwut uwu cwant stop wewding, uwu stwartd thwis awnd ur gwoing two fwinibsh it nowo mwattew wat! uwu hab mwoxie kwiddowo, bwut uwu wibl gwib ub sowon. i cwan wite wike dis fwor owors, swo dwont cwalengbe mii..

… wbats dis??? uwu awe stwill weedinb mwie sinatwr?? uwu habe awot ob detewemwinyanyatiom!! 。◕‿◕。! u habve comopweedid tha signwtr, good job!

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Postby Floofybit » Thu Mar 30, 2023 8:54 am

If the world keeps going in the path it's going, it's going to crumble. Something needs to wake people up
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Postby Bewaffnete Krafte » Thu Mar 30, 2023 8:56 am

Haganham wrote:
Northern Socialist Council Republics wrote:In 2030, people will do the same nonsense that they have always done, except they will do it with new and exciting tools that old-timers will disapprove of.

I have been thinking about how the moral panic about ChatGPT reminds me of the panics there were when I was in school about using Google and Wikipedia instead of real books and the library.

ChatGPT scares the fuck out of me. It's way too good at what it does. It's not really comparable to Google and Wikipedia. Google and Wikipedia just give you the same information easier. ChatGPT can act very human and can do important work for you.
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Postby The United Penguin Commonwealth » Thu Mar 30, 2023 8:56 am

Dimetrodon Empire wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:We will be learning Chinese.

China is running out of water: https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/artic ... nd-vietnam


and their population has already peaked
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Postby Hirota » Thu Mar 30, 2023 9:03 am

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Postby Haganham » Thu Mar 30, 2023 9:12 am

Bewaffnete Krafte wrote:
Haganham wrote:I have been thinking about how the moral panic about ChatGPT reminds me of the panics there were when I was in school about using Google and Wikipedia instead of real books and the library.

ChatGPT scares the fuck out of me. It's way too good at what it does. It's not really comparable to Google and Wikipedia. Google and Wikipedia just give you the same information easier. ChatGPT can act very human and can do important work for you.

It really cannot. It doesn't really know what what it's writing means, so it just because it's going by prediction rather then understanding. You can make it better by giving a prompt that includes context for why you want it, and even better examples. But if you really want it to do a decent job you need to have what you want at least partially written, and you need to proof read it throughly to catch errors like.
Incentive for businesses to locate in high-cost areas: If the minimum wage is the same across the country, businesses may be incentivized to locate in areas with lower costs of living where wages are cheaper. However, if the minimum wage is pegged to the local cost of living, businesses may be more likely to locate in high-cost areas, which could help boost economic growth in those areas.
Imagine reading a signature, but over the course of it the quality seems to deteriorate and it gets wose an wose, where the swenetence stwucture and gwammer rewerts to a pwoint of uttew non swence, an u jus dont wanna wead it anymwore (o´ω`o) awd twa wol owdewl iws jus awfwul (´・ω・`);. bwt tw sinawtur iwswnwt obwer nyet, it gwos own an own an own an own. uwu wanyaa stwop weadwing bwut uwu cwant stop wewding, uwu stwartd thwis awnd ur gwoing two fwinibsh it nowo mwattew wat! uwu hab mwoxie kwiddowo, bwut uwu wibl gwib ub sowon. i cwan wite wike dis fwor owors, swo dwont cwalengbe mii..

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Postby Bewaffnete Krafte » Thu Mar 30, 2023 9:13 am

Haganham wrote:
Bewaffnete Krafte wrote: ChatGPT scares the fuck out of me. It's way too good at what it does. It's not really comparable to Google and Wikipedia. Google and Wikipedia just give you the same information easier. ChatGPT can act very human and can do important work for you.

It really cannot. It doesn't really know what what it's writing means, so it just because it's going by prediction rather then understanding. You can make it better by giving a prompt that includes context for why you want it, and even better examples. But if you really want it to do a decent job you need to have what you want at least partially written, and you need to proof read it throughly to catch errors like.
Incentive for businesses to locate in high-cost areas: If the minimum wage is the same across the country, businesses may be incentivized to locate in areas with lower costs of living where wages are cheaper. However, if the minimum wage is pegged to the local cost of living, businesses may be more likely to locate in high-cost areas, which could help boost economic growth in those areas.

So it does important work for you? You just have to proofread it and correct when needed. It's still doing a majority of the work.
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Postby Corporate Collective Salvation » Thu Mar 30, 2023 12:13 pm

I gave up on this kind of speculation when I had to accept that contemporary 2019 LA was not going to look like Bladerunner LA.
Not that I wanted it to.
It is just that reality for me has slapped down so much of the speculative fiction I was raised on, the exercise became largely moot.
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Postby Washington-Columbia » Thu Mar 30, 2023 5:52 pm

My predictions (note, take with grain of salt):

-The Earth would start to cool or become melted cheese
-Putin's power will be severely damaged. Even if he blames his loss of NATO, I think that the Russian Populace will be angry of his loss in Ukraine.
-The GOP will either have its image tarnished or be a shell of its former self. Even if it makes decisions which could gain itself more power, I doubt the population wouldn't watch and let them turn into a de facto tyranny
-Countries like India or Mexico would grow faster to become a possible superpower, as China Slows Down. While China still has the side of many states across the globe, few of them are very influential, say Russia and they don't have a lot of powerful allies compared to the US. Also, China seems to be sliding back from the effects of some of its former policies like the One-Child Policy. Also, India and Mexico seem to get more powerful day by day with their influence, development and their economies rising.
-Iran will likely have a new Regime. The current Iranian Regime seems to be very unpopular, and it had faced a lot of protests, like the 2019-2020 Protests or the UIA 752 Protests, or the recent Mahsa Amini Protests tarnishing their image and showing that a lot of the populace is against the regime.

The Great Nevada Overlord wrote: Biden could easily sign an executive order calling for Florida to end their shenanigans and to reinstate legal abortion across the nation, and yet he still sits there... blaming Republicans.
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Not saying Biden is a good president, but I'm sure the Supreme Court would probably rule it unconstitutional and throw it into the news.
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Postby The United States in Timeline-191 » Thu Mar 30, 2023 6:01 pm

Florida will be underwater. No need to do any land reclamation there.
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Postby Slapahoe » Thu Mar 30, 2023 6:06 pm

Zanderlock wrote:https://climateclock.world/
Just... What can I even say?

except people have been claiming this for 60 years. I don't see any reason to believe it now.

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Postby Kerwa » Thu Mar 30, 2023 6:27 pm

Zanderlock wrote:https://climateclock.world/
Just... What can I even say?


That thing’s like Pacific Rim. Except uncool because no Idris Elba.

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Thu Mar 30, 2023 7:15 pm

Bewaffnete Krafte wrote:
Haganham wrote:I have been thinking about how the moral panic about ChatGPT reminds me of the panics there were when I was in school about using Google and Wikipedia instead of real books and the library.

ChatGPT scares the fuck out of me. It's way too good at what it does. It's not really comparable to Google and Wikipedia. Google and Wikipedia just give you the same information easier. ChatGPT can act very human and can do important work for you.

There was a program that could imulate any given composer on its own 20 years ago, and so far there are still musicians and composers.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Thu Mar 30, 2023 7:27 pm

Corporate Collective Salvation wrote:I gave up on this kind of speculation when I had to accept that contemporary 2019 LA was not going to look like Bladerunner LA.
Not that I wanted it to.
It is just that reality for me has slapped down so much of the speculative fiction I was raised on, the exercise became largely moot.

They were just four years off on all the rain...

No Spinners yet, but multi-rotor city vehicles are being tested in Tokyo.

A new life does not await me on the offworld colonies, but a rich guy who can't manage to make a pickup truck for some reason (because he over complicated one of the simplest vehicles in th-...Okay, not the topic) wants to set one up on Mars. Probably won't, but he really wants to.

We don't have replicants, but we have Sophie, the AI robot that was recognized by something something...*, everyone's losing their shit over ChapGPT, and that ex-Google employee that says their AI has become self aware.

We haven't adapted that neo-noir prototype cyberpunk aesthetic, but give it time...

(I don't think Bladerunner is actually predictive, I just was going to joke about my gripe with that movie being how rainy it was in Los Angeles and joke about our particularly wet winter, then realized how many things were kinda close and was kinda stunned about how many things there were.

*side story. Worked in a building where the Sophie people had an office and so she was around a lot. I was next to her and a co-worker said I should feel the nose because it was really weird (no cartilage obv). I wouldn't do it initially but eventually did, then realized she was 'on'. So...I'm gonna die in the robot uprising.
"...I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season." -MLK Jr.

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