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Do you think the name should change?

yes
44
34%
only important occasions
7
5%
sometimes
5
4%
only Māori related occasions
16
13%
rarely
5
4%
never
46
36%
Opinion stated in topic
5
4%
 
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Postby The Republic of Covelandia » Wed Mar 29, 2023 2:40 am

Last year the New Zealand parliament has proposed a name change to Aotearoa, meaning land of the long white cloud. so what do you think on the name and do you think it should be adopted to preserve Māori rights?
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Postby Cuba 2022 RP » Wed Mar 29, 2023 2:50 am

No, the New Zealand parliament proposed a name change to “Aotearoa New Zealand”, not to “Aotearoa”, and the former joint name is the one more likely to ever be implemented, as it has more support
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Postby Risottia » Wed Mar 29, 2023 4:43 am

The Republic of Covelandia wrote:Last year the New Zealand parliament has proposed a name change to Aotearoa, meaning land of the long white cloud. so what do you think on the name and do you think it should be adopted to preserve Māori rights?

Nah.
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Postby -Astoria- » Wed Mar 29, 2023 5:35 am

The Republic of Covelandia wrote:Last year the New Zealand parliament has proposed a name change to Aotearoa, meaning land of the long white cloud. so what do you think on the name and do you think it should be adopted to preserve Māori rights?

Cuba 2022 RP wrote:No, the New Zealand parliament proposed a name change to “Aotearoa New Zealand”, not to “Aotearoa”, and the former joint name is the one more likely to ever be implemented, as it has more support

Don't see why not.

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Wed Mar 29, 2023 5:44 am

if its what they want then sure why not.
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Postby Dogmeat » Wed Mar 29, 2023 5:46 am

By any name it will always be Middle Earth to me.
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Postby Floofybit » Wed Mar 29, 2023 5:52 am

Take out the New. Old Zealand is no more
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Postby Rakhalia » Wed Mar 29, 2023 5:53 am

Can't see the addition of "Aotearoa" to the name as anything but a good thing. It's the natives' land.
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Postby Portzania » Wed Mar 29, 2023 5:55 am

I'm not from New Zealand but the new name sounds pretty cool, why not.
Just like how eswatini changed their name.
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Mar 29, 2023 5:56 am

Floofybit wrote:Take out the New. Old Zealand is no more

I think this would be news to the hundreds of thousands of people who live there.
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Postby Dogmeat » Wed Mar 29, 2023 5:58 am

Floofybit wrote:Take out the New. Old Zealand is no more

Not sure where you got that idea.
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Postby The Merry-Men » Wed Mar 29, 2023 5:59 am

Dogmeat wrote:By any name it will always be Middle Earth to me.

Indeed.

I'm afraid the New Zealand government has more pressing and urgent matters than changing their name or flag, that being the quest to bring the One True Ring to Mount Doom and dispose of it.
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Postby -Astoria- » Wed Mar 29, 2023 6:06 am

Floofybit wrote:Take out the New. Old Zealand is no more

Hundreds and thousands of people: "ǐ̴͖͙̄ḱ̷͙̬̀ ̴̢̂v̵̪͇̐͊o̴͖̘͆̉e̸̼̕l̶̝͑ ̷̦͉́m̴͔͇̀e̸̲͐ͅ ̸̞̼̿̌n̴̠̂i̴̭͓͗e̶̬̎͝t̶͓͋̃ ̵͈̋z̶̨̽o̴̡̓ ̸̩͛l̵̫͋e̶̜̾ͅk̶̪͇͒͋k̸̘̟͛e̴̥̊̀r̵͓͓͋́..."
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Dogmeat wrote:By any name it will always be Middle Earth to me.

Indeed.

I'm afraid the New Zealand government has more pressing and urgent matters than changing its' name or flag, that being the quest to bring the One True Ring to Mount Doom and dispose of it.

" its' " ? They also tried the former, too.
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Postby Floofybit » Wed Mar 29, 2023 6:12 am

-Astoria- wrote:
Floofybit wrote:Take out the New. Old Zealand is no more

Hundreds and thousands of people: "ǐ̴͖͙̄ḱ̷͙̬̀ ̴̢̂v̵̪͇̐͊o̴͖̘͆̉e̸̼̕l̶̝͑ ̷̦͉́m̴͔͇̀e̸̲͐ͅ ̸̞̼̿̌n̴̠̂i̴̭͓͗e̶̬̎͝t̶͓͋̃ ̵͈̋z̶̨̽o̴̡̓ ̸̩͛l̵̫͋e̶̜̾ͅk̶̪͇͒͋k̸̘̟͛e̴̥̊̀r̵͓͓͋́..."
The Merry-Men wrote:Indeed.

I'm afraid the New Zealand government has more pressing and urgent matters than changing its' name or flag, that being the quest to bring the One True Ring to Mount Doom and dispose of it.

" its' " ? They also tried the former, too.

I genuinely thought Old Zealend was something else. That's pretty cool though
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Postby Portzania » Wed Mar 29, 2023 6:15 am

ahhahha zeeland more like sealand hope you lose more of your land DUTCHY zhehahahaahahzehaahahah
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Mar 29, 2023 6:15 am

Floofybit wrote:
-Astoria- wrote:Hundreds and thousands of people: "ǐ̴͖͙̄ḱ̷͙̬̀ ̴̢̂v̵̪͇̐͊o̴͖̘͆̉e̸̼̕l̶̝͑ ̷̦͉́m̴͔͇̀e̸̲͐ͅ ̸̞̼̿̌n̴̠̂i̴̭͓͗e̶̬̎͝t̶͓͋̃ ̵͈̋z̶̨̽o̴̡̓ ̸̩͛l̵̫͋e̶̜̾ͅk̶̪͇͒͋k̸̘̟͛e̴̥̊̀r̵͓͓͋́..."

" its' " ? They also tried the former, too.

I genuinely thought Old Zealend was something else. That's pretty cool though

It's just 'Zeeland'.
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Postby Crylante » Wed Mar 29, 2023 6:17 am

Floofybit wrote:
-Astoria- wrote:Hundreds and thousands of people: "ǐ̴͖͙̄ḱ̷͙̬̀ ̴̢̂v̵̪͇̐͊o̴͖̘͆̉e̸̼̕l̶̝͑ ̷̦͉́m̴͔͇̀e̸̲͐ͅ ̸̞̼̿̌n̴̠̂i̴̭͓͗e̶̬̎͝t̶͓͋̃ ̵͈̋z̶̨̽o̴̡̓ ̸̩͛l̵̫͋e̶̜̾ͅk̶̪͇͒͋k̸̘̟͛e̴̥̊̀r̵͓͓͋́..."

" its' " ? They also tried the former, too.

I genuinely thought Old Zealend was something else. That's pretty cool though

Confusingly, the Danish island which Copenhagen is on is also called Zealand, but it's not the one that makes New Zealand new, in stead that's a Dutch river esturary.
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Postby -Astoria- » Wed Mar 29, 2023 6:47 am

Portzania wrote:ahhahha zeeland more like sealand hope you lose more of your land DUTCHY zhehahahaahahzehaahahah

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Postby The Archregimancy » Wed Mar 29, 2023 6:48 am

The Merry-Men wrote:
Dogmeat wrote:By any name it will always be Middle Earth to me.

Indeed.

I'm afraid the New Zealand government has more pressing and urgent matters than changing their name or flag, that being the quest to bring the One True Ring to Mount Doom and dispose of it.


For what it's worth, when I was in Wellington back in 2005(ish), a giant Gollum was looming above the airport, and about to snatch the One Ring - so I think they've been on the quest for a while now.

Need to try and track that photograph down once I'm home again; it's not on my work computer.

Edit:
Link to an online version taken in 2003.
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Postby The Merry-Men » Wed Mar 29, 2023 6:48 am

Portzania wrote:ahhahha zeeland more like sealand hope you lose more of your land DUTCHY zhehahahaahahzehaahahah

Geez, how badly did your EU4 game go?
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Postby Portzania » Wed Mar 29, 2023 6:49 am

-Astoria- wrote:
Portzania wrote:ahhahha zeeland more like sealand hope you lose more of your land DUTCHY zhehahahaahahzehaahahah

Three words: polders and polders.

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Postby The Merry-Men » Wed Mar 29, 2023 6:55 am

The Archregimancy wrote:
The Merry-Men wrote:Indeed.

I'm afraid the New Zealand government has more pressing and urgent matters than changing their name or flag, that being the quest to bring the One True Ring to Mount Doom and dispose of it.


For what it's worth, when I was in Wellington back in 2005(ish), a giant Gollum was looming above the airport, and about to snatch the One Ring - so I think they've been on the quest for a while now.

Need to try and track that photograph down once I'm home again; it's not on my work computer.

Edit:
Link to an online version taken in 2003.



Oh, wow! That's actually pretty... terrifying. Like, the giant gollum chasing the fish inside the airport is nightmare fuel alone, but this absolute unit and his precious?


Imagine being some poor Afghan or African migrant who's managed to acquire refuge and citizenship in New Zealand, and after a long flight where you reflect on the memories of your homeland and wonder how your future in a more developed country will be, you step off and, having absolutely no clue what Lord of the Rings even is, you see giant Gollum looming over you and the ring.

I'm sorry, but I'd pay a thousand dollars to get more camera footage of people reacting to that massive Gollum and being scared out of their pants.
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Postby El Lazaro » Wed Mar 29, 2023 7:03 am

Cuba 2022 RP wrote:No, the New Zealand parliament proposed a name change to “Aotearoa New Zealand”, not to “Aotearoa”, and the former joint name is the one more likely to ever be implemented, as it has more support

Stuffing two country names together is an awkward middle ground. Unexpectedly, I partially agree with Floofy. “New” should be removed from the name and replaced with “Aotearoan” to keep it short and simple. It’s a place named after Zeeland on the islands of Aotearoa and whatever the other one is called, so call it like it is. Otherwise, it’s probably going to be a Bosnia and Herzegovina situation where the BiH just becomes Bosnia.

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Postby HISPIDA » Wed Mar 29, 2023 7:15 am

"aotearoa" just sounds cooler than "new zealand". i'm also a bit of a sucker for joint country names so i also really like "aotearoa-new zealand" or "aotearoa-zealand". maybe "aotearoa-wakaamāu" to give the south island some love.
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