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Should the United States become a dictatorship?

I would prefer that the United States stayed a democracy.
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I think there should be restrictions on who can vote.
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I think the United States should become more authoritarian than it currently is.
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5%
I support a completely non-democratic United States.
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Total votes : 341

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Dictatorship in America

Postby Countesia » Mon Mar 27, 2023 11:51 am

This is a question more than it is a call for discussion, although i welcome discussion nonetheless as Nationstates, at it very core, is a forum for debate.

In the American Civil War discussion, a statement was put forward made by one of the participants in the thread

United States Reborn wrote:Correct, I'd also be fine with a Trump dictatorship, as would Republican voters.


And it got me thinking... how true is this? So i made this thread.

So i pose a question primarily to the right leaning Americans of this website, though all are welcome here to give their opinion.

Do you support the abolishment of democracy in the United States to make way for a non-democratic government?



INB4 the wrath of moderation, this post was not made to attack the user who made the statement posted above, but to elicit conversation on the views put forward.

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Postby Theodores Tomfooleries » Mon Mar 27, 2023 11:53 am

Excellent way to completely tear the country apart, which is probably the opposite effect of what was wanted.
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Postby Floofybit » Mon Mar 27, 2023 11:56 am

Wouldn't mind an authoritarian U.S.
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Postby The Orwell Society » Mon Mar 27, 2023 11:57 am

Hell no
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Postby Mezzigiorno rp 2000s » Mon Mar 27, 2023 12:00 pm

i could see the average american not giving a f#ck considering if there is still fast food and mainstream media

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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Mar 27, 2023 12:01 pm

Floofybit wrote:Wouldn't mind an authoritarian U.S.

As long as it conforms to your beliefs that is.

If the authoritarian USA was say a socialist state that banned the practice of religion, you’d be up in arms over it
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Postby Bewaffnete Krafte » Mon Mar 27, 2023 12:02 pm

This is the most vile poll i've ever seen. How has it come to this?
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Postby United States Reborn » Mon Mar 27, 2023 12:02 pm

If the regime conformed to my beliefs, I'd be a proud supporter of dictatorship.
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Postby Theodores Tomfooleries » Mon Mar 27, 2023 12:04 pm

United States Reborn wrote:If the regime conformed to my beliefs, I'd be a proud supporter of dictatorship.

It's BASED when the state persecutes, jails and slaughters MY political opponents but when it happens to me it's CRINGE.
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Postby The Multiversal Library » Mon Mar 27, 2023 12:05 pm

Frankly, an authoritarian US would almost certainly throw the country into a state of civil war not unlike the Syrian Civil War, with multiple factions and armed groups fighting against each other and being influenced by foreign powers. However, I personally do not believe American democracy is the best form of government for the country, and I myself believe that a meritocratic autocracy (if it could be achieved) would be far better than democracy. Sadly, the establishment of such a state is little more than a pipedream, and therefore any movement towards establishing a dictatorship in the US would, in my opinion, simply bring misery and destruction to the populace.

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Postby HISPIDA » Mon Mar 27, 2023 12:06 pm

become a dictatorship? the country's been in the pockets of a few individuals since its inception.
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Postby -Pashtunistan » Mon Mar 27, 2023 12:06 pm

Given that my nation literally used to be an Autocratic Monarchist USA before it took over the world, I wouldn't mind an authoritarian America.
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Postby Vavlar » Mon Mar 27, 2023 12:07 pm

And if America does become a dictatorship which it should become as all countries in the world, it should be based around a moralist leader who does things to improve the country and people's lives.

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Postby Countesia » Mon Mar 27, 2023 12:07 pm

Theodores Tomfooleries wrote:
United States Reborn wrote:If the regime conformed to my beliefs, I'd be a proud supporter of dictatorship.

It's BASED when the state persecutes, jails and slaughters MY political opponents but when it happens to me it's CRINGE.


I was thinking the same thing lol

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Postby Necroghastia » Mon Mar 27, 2023 12:07 pm

Floofybit wrote:Wouldn't mind an authoritarian U.S.

Why not? Are you that insecure in your own morality and beliefs that you need them to be forced on those around you to be sure in them? Do you just not like people who aren't exactly like yourself? What?
-Pashtunistan wrote:Given that my nation literally used to be an Autocratic Monarchist USA before it took over the world, I wouldn't mind an authoritarian America.

Same to you.
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Postby Punished UMN » Mon Mar 27, 2023 12:08 pm

Theodores Tomfooleries wrote:
United States Reborn wrote:If the regime conformed to my beliefs, I'd be a proud supporter of dictatorship.

It's BASED when the state persecutes, jails and slaughters MY political opponents but when it happens to me it's CRINGE.

This but unironically.
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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Mar 27, 2023 12:09 pm

Necroghastia wrote:
Floofybit wrote:Wouldn't mind an authoritarian U.S.

Why not? Are you that insecure in your own morality and beliefs that you need them to be forced on those around you to be sure in them? Do you just not like people who aren't exactly like yourself? What?

You’re talking to the guy who wants to ban alcohol because it doesn’t conform to his religious beliefs. He wants Mormon controlled USA
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Postby Juansonia » Mon Mar 27, 2023 12:09 pm

Idealistically, I don't care whether a government is democratic or autocratic, as long as personal liberty, social services, due process, and that kind of jazz is how its supposed to be.

Practically, I support democracy, because modern democracy and tyrannical resource-economy dictatorship are opposite cliffs of the instability canyon, and democracy is the cliff that usually gives a shit about the people's quality of life.
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Postby Floofybit » Mon Mar 27, 2023 12:09 pm

As long as there's freedom of religion, freedom of marriage, freedom to be alive, and freedom to talk with others on the internet (I don't care about freedom of speech), I couldn't care less
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Postby Rusozak » Mon Mar 27, 2023 12:10 pm

Vavlar wrote:And if America does become a dictatorship which it should become as all countries in the world, it should be based around a moralist leader who does things to improve the country and people's lives.


The thing about dictatorships is the dictators aren't dependent on the continued political support of the masses to stay in power. What "should be" is irrelevant when you don't actually have a say in who the leader is.
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Postby HISPIDA » Mon Mar 27, 2023 12:10 pm

Floofybit wrote:I don't care about freedom of speech

LET. HIM. COOK.
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Postby Portzania » Mon Mar 27, 2023 12:11 pm

Theodores Tomfooleries wrote:
United States Reborn wrote:If the regime conformed to my beliefs, I'd be a proud supporter of dictatorship.

It's BASED when the state persecutes, jails and slaughters MY political opponents but when it happens to me it's CRINGE.

This but unironically
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Postby Necroghastia » Mon Mar 27, 2023 12:11 pm

Floofybit wrote:As long as there's freedom of religion, freedom of marriage, freedom to be alive, and freedom to talk with others on the internet (I don't care about freedom of speech), I couldn't care less

So you wouldn't mind if people got locked up for criticizing the government?
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Postby Portzania » Mon Mar 27, 2023 12:13 pm

Necroghastia wrote:
Floofybit wrote:As long as there's freedom of religion, freedom of marriage, freedom to be alive, and freedom to talk with others on the internet (I don't care about freedom of speech), I couldn't care less

So you wouldn't mind if people got locked up for criticizing the government?

No one would need to critique the government if its so good. :)
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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Mar 27, 2023 12:13 pm

Floofybit wrote:As long as there's freedom of religion, freedom of marriage, freedom to be alive, and freedom to talk with others on the internet (I don't care about freedom of speech), I couldn't care less

Freedom to talk to others on the internet exists because of freedom of speech. The two can not be separated. Without freedom of speech, freedom of religion can not exist either.

So if you don’t care about freedom of speech, you are saying that you also don’t care about freedom of religion or the freedom to talk to others on the internet.

So having an authoritarian dictatorship in the US is just one step away from you and your people being persecuted
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