Should Stalin be taught by schools to be a hero?

[Italian Union of Controlled States]

I'm NOT saying what we should do is completely ignore Stalin's contribution to the war effort (WW2)
I'm saying that people need to learn about the negatives as well, like the Holodomor and countless other mistreatments of his own people.
Thanks for taking the time to read this

Why the Holodomor Should be taught:
https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/commen ... l_schools/

Other Atrocities committed by Joseph Stalin:
https://history.howstuffworks.com/histo ... stalin.htm

[Farnhamia]

I'm NOT saying what we should do is completely ignore Stalin's contribution to the war effort (WW2)
I'm saying that people need to learn about the negatives as well, like the Holodomor and countless other mistreatments of his own people.
Thanks for taking the time to read this

Then what are you saying? It is considered polite, if not explicitly required, that you give your opinion and back it up with sources and ... stuff.

[Bharbosia]

No quite the opposite actually, kids should be taught the truth that he was one of the most evil people to have ever existed, his callousness and incompetence killed more people than Hitler

[The Black Forrest]

What contribution would that be? If he had died, would not the next guy did the same for the war effort?

[Free Algerstonia]

joseph stalin is a hero. he was a double agent that successfully infiltrated the bolshevik moment to destroy it, and he succeeded through the great purge that was a disguised obliteration of the communist party and global communism which was also destroyed by the socialism in one country policy, without stalin's contributions to saving the world from communism the soviet union might still exist and FDR's communist ambitions would have been fully realized without the moderating influence of the business plot

[Punished UMN]

No.

[Drongonia]

No

[Washington Resistance Army]

joseph stalin is a hero. he was a double agent that successfully infiltrated the bolshevik moment to destroy it, and he succeeded through the great purge that was a disguised obliteration of the communist party and global communism which was also destroyed by the socialism in one country policy, without stalin's contributions to saving the world from communism the soviet union might still exist and FDR's communist ambitions would have been fully realized without the moderating influence of the business plot

Average Trotskyist group be like

[Theodores Tomfooleries]

joseph stalin is a hero. he was a double agent that successfully infiltrated the bolshevik moment to destroy it, and he succeeded through the great purge that was a disguised obliteration of the communist party and global communism which was also destroyed by the socialism in one country policy, without stalin's contributions to saving the world from communism the soviet union might still exist and FDR's communist ambitions would have been fully realized without the moderating influence of the business plot

I fucking love this guy

[Theodores Tomfooleries]

I'm NOT saying what we should do is completely ignore Stalin's contribution to the war effort (WW2)
I'm saying that people need to learn about the negatives as well, like the Holodomor and countless other mistreatments of his own people.
Thanks for taking the time to read this

"Say the line, Bart!"
sigh
- The Holodomor was not a genocide against Ukrainians
cheering

[Theodores Tomfooleries]

i can't delete this :/

[Cuba 2022 RP]

joseph stalin is a hero. he was a double agent that successfully infiltrated the bolshevik moment to destroy it, and he succeeded through the great purge that was a disguised obliteration of the communist party and global communism which was also destroyed by the socialism in one country policy, without stalin's contributions to saving the world from communism the soviet union might still exist and FDR's communist ambitions would have been fully realized without the moderating influence of the business plot

Algerstonia with the best takes as always

[Risottia]

What contribution would that be? If he had died, would not the next guy did the same for the war effort?

We can't really know.
Basically the only good thing Stalin did in his whole life was getting his shit together and use his brains and political power to unite the Soviet Union in the fight against Nazi Germany.
Everything else was either meh (in the rare happier cases) or an utter fuckup (see: listening to Lysenko), with lots of instances of downright criminal behaviour.

[Risottia]

joseph stalin is a hero. he was a double agent that successfully infiltrated the bolshevik moment to destroy it, and he succeeded through the great purge that was a disguised obliteration of the communist party and global communism which was also destroyed by the socialism in one country policy, without stalin's contributions to saving the world from communism the soviet union might still exist and FDR's communist ambitions would have been fully realized without the moderating influence of the business plot

Here, take your complimentary internet.

[Italian Union of Controlled States]

I'm NOT saying what we should do is completely ignore Stalin's contribution to the war effort (WW2)
I'm saying that people need to learn about the negatives as well, like the Holodomor and countless other mistreatments of his own people.
Thanks for taking the time to read this

Then what are you saying? It is considered polite, if not explicitly required, that you give your opinion and back it up with sources and ... stuff.

Sorry,

Why the Holodomor should be taught in schools
https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/commen ... l_schools/

Other Atrocities committed by Joseph Stalin that should also be taught about (in my opinion)
https://history.howstuffworks.com/histo ... stalin.htm

[Punished UMN]

What contribution would that be? If he had died, would not the next guy did the same for the war effort?

We can't really know.
Basically the only good thing Stalin did in his whole life was getting his shit together and use his brains and political power to unite the Soviet Union in the fight against Nazi Germany.
Everything else was either meh (in the rare happier cases) or an utter fuckup (see: listening to Lysenko), with lots of instances of downright criminal behaviour.

Stalin's agricultural policy was a disaster for the Soviet people, but that can't be chalked up to Lysenko.

[Cannot think of a name]

You weren't taught these things in school?

[II Soviet state]

He is not exactly the brightest hero, but certainly a great man who played a huge and generally progressive role in the history of the Earth.
He should be honored, though not idolized.

[Italian Union of Controlled States]

No quite the opposite actually, kids should be taught the truth that he was one of the most evil people to have ever existed, his callousness and incompetence killed more people than Hitler

I agree

[Italian Union of Controlled States]

He is not exactly the brightest hero, but certainly a great man who played a huge and generally progressive role in the history of the Earth.
He should be honored, though not idolized.

Yes, he had a very influential role and I think he should be honored, but the bad parts shouldn't be covered up

[Punished UMN]

The anti-Stalin line of the CPSU after 1956 was the correct one.

[Theodores Tomfooleries]

The anti-Stalin line of the CPSU after 1956 was the correct one.

I disagree.

[Cannot think of a name]

He is not exactly the brightest hero, but certainly a great man who played a huge and generally progressive role in the history of the Earth.
He should be honored, though not idolized.

Yes, he had a very influential role and I think he should be honored, but the bad parts shouldn't be covered up

Maybe the value judgement isn't as important as just the record of things he did that affected the rest of the world?

[Kahekordne Union of Spib]

No, but his efforts during the later half of WW2 should still be recognized

[Istastioner]

No, but his efforts during the later half of WW2 should still be recognized

I couldn't agree more tbh

Edit: Not that stalin was some saint, but when compared to "You know who" it's a lot easier to say that he's a "hero"