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(DRAFT) Condemn Osiris

Postby Hahqsthqstan » Sat Jan 28, 2023 10:49 am

The 2nd proposal with this account. I've decided to made this because of the giant hate directed towards Osiris. Osiris is one of the members of the largest raider organization in NationStates, Raider Unity, who caused many destruction and chaos in the NS multiverse. Without further ado, hereby my draft:
This August and Wise Security Council,

RECOGNIZING the existence of Osiris, a region that causes havoc and chaos in the entire multiverse;

REMEMBERING its vast involvement in raiding other regions, like:

  1. The indiscriminate raiding of The Western Commonwealth, who resulted in the total destruction and refounding of a region once vibrant and peaceful;
  2. The massive involvement of the Sekhmet Legion in the "Mass taggings" event, leadered by Lily, that raidered more than 850 regions in a single update and more hundreds of regions in the following updates;
  3. The raiding of Japan, long-living region with an vibrant community, long history and more than 160-200 embassies, with everything of the older Japan going in the garbage, including its embassies, a raid with the participation of Osiris and a lot more of raiders, destroying the region and estabilishing a puppet government in the place of the legitimate government;

ACKNOWLEDGING the long-lasting alliance of Osiris with The Black Hawks, the most experient and feared raider organization in the multiverse, and their alliances with the biggest raider organizations that ever stepped foot in the multiverse;

REFORCING that Osiris need to be punished, because of their shadowed past and big involvement in raiding, via the Sekhmet Legion, and cry to everyone that Osiris need urgently to be condemned,

REACKNOWLEDGING that their iron fist reign by imperialists and greedy rulers need to be stopped, for the good of the multiverse;

BUT REGARDING Osiris generally as a vibrant community with aeshtetic graphics, an active RMB and a sovereign government, but for the whole history of Osiris, their "Pharaohs" only cared about spreading chaos throughout the multiverse and hence all the raidings mentioned before,

AND CONCLUDING by, that their raids, pillings and its giant imperialism cannot be forgotten, raids and pillings with or the involvement or the leadership of this disgusting imperialist region, that caused a lot of destruction, chaos and havoc in the multiverse, and will continue to do this henceforth,

HEREBY CONDEMNS OSIRIS.
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Postby Ostrovskiy » Sat Jan 28, 2023 10:51 am

You can't have "his" in an SC proposal.

Also, too much focus on raiding, and not enough on anything else.
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Postby Hahqsthqstan » Sat Jan 28, 2023 10:54 am

Ostrovskiy wrote:You can't have "his" in an SC proposal.

Also, too much focus on raiding, and not enough on anything else.

See the resolutions condemning raiders and post again
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Postby Ostrovskiy » Sat Jan 28, 2023 10:57 am

Hahqsthqstan wrote:
Ostrovskiy wrote:You can't have "his" in an SC proposal.

Also, too much focus on raiding, and not enough on anything else.

See the resolutions condemning raiders and post again

Okay but Osiris isn't only a raider region.
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Postby Zanderlock » Sat Jan 28, 2023 10:57 am

We need to make it more detailed. As much As I want to Condemn them. We need a more convincing argument.
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Sat Jan 28, 2023 11:08 am

No real research carried out, no really Condemnable acts described, just a few cliches you hope might catch anti-raider sentiment. Overall, not a very good attempt, but more understandable than your last effort so that’s an improvement I suppose.

Might as well knock this one on the head now, because it isn’t going anywhere.
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Postby Hekkly » Sat Jan 28, 2023 11:20 am

Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:No real research carried out, no really Condemnable acts described, just a few cliches you hope might catch anti-raider sentiment. Overall, not a very good attempt, but more understandable than your last effort so that’s an improvement I suppose.

Might as well knock this one on the head now, because it isn’t going anywhere.

Do the badge hunt.

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Postby Hahqsthqstan » Sat Jan 28, 2023 11:24 am

Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:No real research carried out, no really Condemnable acts described, just a few cliches you hope might catch anti-raider sentiment. Overall, not a very good attempt, but more understandable than your last effort so that’s an improvement I suppose.

Might as well knock this one on the head now, because it isn’t going anywhere.

I made.
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Postby Fort Concord » Sat Jan 28, 2023 2:43 pm

Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:...just a few cliches you hope might catch anti-raider sentiment.

Which is ironic, since said sentiment would likely harm this effort if anything...

Though more generally, ideology regarding C/Cs aside, Osiris is probably low on the list of condemnable raider unity regions. They never lead occupations, (nearly) their entire military is crossmembered with other raider organizations, etc.

"But Quebecshire, what about the historic Osiris military!" <- You mean their most famous raid target only being well-known for being a Warden holding, and declaring war on Lazarus because Cormac got trolled? Yeah, pass.
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Postby Osiris Cookies » Sat Jan 28, 2023 10:07 pm

Needs more meat on its bones to justify its existence, I'm sure Osiris has done a lot more than this.

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Postby Hahqsthqstan » Sun Jan 29, 2023 9:45 am

Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:No real research carried out, no really Condemnable acts described, just a few cliches you hope might catch anti-raider sentiment. Overall, not a very good attempt, but more understandable than your last effort so that’s an improvement I suppose.

Might as well knock this one on the head now, because it isn’t going anywhere.

"Just a few cliches", "might catch anti-raider sentiment" "no real research carried out"...
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Postby Hahqsthqstan » Sun Jan 29, 2023 9:47 am

Ostrovskiy wrote:
Hahqsthqstan wrote:See the resolutions condemning raiders and post again

Okay but Osiris isn't only a raider region.

I KNOW, O SHIT
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Postby Free Algerstonia » Sun Jan 29, 2023 10:09 am

Hahqsthqstan wrote:
Ostrovskiy wrote:Okay but Osiris isn't only a raider region.

I KNOW, O SHIT

FUCK MAN THERES TOO MANY OF THEM
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Postby Hahqsthqstan » Thu Feb 02, 2023 9:17 am

Free Algerstonia wrote:
Hahqsthqstan wrote:I KNOW, O SHIT

FUCK MAN THERES TOO MANY OF THEM

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Postby Witchcraft and Sorcery » Thu Feb 02, 2023 9:43 am

firmly against the notion that raiding deserves any kind of recognition, whether it be commend or condemn.

especially osiris, which has not really done anything of note outside of being a piler force for other regions' raids that i know of and is effectively controlled by UCR raider interests. it's a glorified puppet state unworthy of condemnation.


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Postby Quebecshire » Thu Feb 02, 2023 10:21 am

Witchcraft and Sorcery wrote:
especially osiris, which has not really done anything of note outside of being a piler force for other regions' raids that i know of and is effectively controlled by UCR raider interests. it's a glorified puppet state unworthy of condemnation.

W&S Francoist arc?? <3

Idk, I could get behind "Liberate Osiris" if you catch my drift
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Quebecshire wrote:
Witchcraft and Sorcery wrote:
especially osiris, which has not really done anything of note outside of being a piler force for other regions' raids that i know of and is effectively controlled by UCR raider interests. it's a glorified puppet state unworthy of condemnation.

W&S Francoist arc?? <3

Idk, I could get behind "Liberate Osiris" if you catch my drift

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Postby Free Algerstonia » Thu Feb 02, 2023 11:35 am

Witchcraft and Sorcery wrote:firmly against the notion that raiding deserves any kind of recognition, whether it be commend or condemn.

especially osiris, which has not really done anything of note outside of being a piler force for other regions' raids that i know of and is effectively controlled by UCR raider interests. it's a glorified puppet state unworthy of condemnation.

condemn them for being a puppet region then, maybe do a batch condemnation with chicken overlords
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Postby Repreteop » Thu Feb 02, 2023 11:38 am

Against.

Albeit I am not aligned with Osiris. (Nor do I intend to piss them off particularly), this is just a defender friendly draft which hopefully doesn't go through.
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Postby Repreteop » Thu Feb 02, 2023 11:41 am

Witchcraft and Sorcery wrote:firmly against the notion that raiding deserves any kind of recognition, whether it be commend or condemn.

especially osiris, which has not really done anything of note outside of being a piler force for other regions' raids that i know of and is effectively controlled by UCR raider interests. it's a glorified puppet state unworthy of condemnation.


I didn't think of it from that glimpse. But thats true.
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Postby One Small Island » Thu Feb 02, 2023 5:54 pm

Hahqsthqstan wrote:RECOGNIZING the existence of Osiris

no support based on this alone. :P
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Postby WayNeacTia » Thu Feb 02, 2023 6:29 pm

Repreteop wrote:Against.

Albeit I am not aligned with Osiris. (Nor do I intend to piss them off particularly), this is just a defender friendly draft which hopefully doesn't go through.

All the more reason to support it.
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Postby Varax Zwei » Thu Feb 02, 2023 8:31 pm

Against. Raiders blatantly see condemn badges as a badge of honor, a lifetime achievement award if you will. By giving them this you are rewarding the act of raiding. So unless you're a raider, author, or otherwise seeking to legitimize and promote their actions you should not put forward proposals that give them what they want. Even then Osiris is, as W&S has pointed out, not a very effective as a raider group at that and thus doubly unworthy of any recognition.
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Postby Tinhampton » Thu Feb 02, 2023 8:35 pm

Varax Zwei wrote:Against. Raiders blatantly see condemn badges as a badge of honor, a lifetime achievement award if you will. By giving them this you are rewarding the act of raiding. So unless you're a raider, author, or otherwise seeking to legitimize and promote their actions you should not put forward proposals that give them what they want...

Hahqsthqstan wrote:I've decided to made this because of the giant hate directed towards Osiris. Osiris is one of the members of the largest raider organization in NationStates, Raider Unity, who caused many destruction and chaos in the NS multiverse.
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Postby Varax Zwei » Thu Feb 02, 2023 8:38 pm

Thank you for pointing out Tinhampton that they are indeed seeking to do this as a way of genuinely "condemning" but again, are in fact rewarding them, thus doing the opposite of actually punishing them somehow. Thus seemingly proving my point.
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