Attacks in Iran: Potentially the start of a new war?

[Archinstinct]

Iran was attacked with drones after a 5.9 magnitude earthquake today. No idea who's responsible right now, but what info is available suggests it's another country. Still no clear reason why, although I'll hazard a guess it has something to do with the nationwide protests.

"Explosions have been reported at military installations throughout Iran, with at least one strike on a reported MOD Ammunition Depot in Isfahan. Limited information is available, but video evidence suggests drone strikes against Iranian facilities by another nation. This comes after a 5.9 earthquake shook the region earlier today, killing at least 2. Air defenses around the nation are reported to have been activated." - The New News (TNN)

Sources
TNN Map: https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewe ... 897208&z=3

Isfahan
https://t.me/conflictzone/35661

https://twitter.com/WarMonitors/status/ ... 3214277632

Khoy
https://twitter.com/no_itsmyturn/status ... 5103536128

Azarshahr
https://t.me/istohnik/30309

Earthquake Damage
https://t.me/istohnik/30304

My opinion: I condone the strikes if this is done in support of the Iranian protests. The protests have been ongoing for months now and the regime has brutally attacked countless protesters, summarily killing many. On top of that, they're now criminalizing the very act of protesting against the government and formally executing people.

The Iranian people have asked for outside help. I've spoken to some in the country, they want help. Other countries should get involved to liberate the people of Iran. It's time.

UPDATE:

Israel appears to have been behind drone strike on Iran factory, U.S. official says. From Reuters.

UPDATE 2:

https://www.reddit.com/r/UkrainianConflict/comments/10okdkw/in_the_evening_of_january_29_explosions_are_heard/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
More explosions reported in Iran.

[Port Caverton]

Is the Let's Go Bomb Tehran movement going to become a reality?

[Daekong]

Well guess were just closer to a world war now, Iran will probably blame us.

[Zanderlock]

Can The World Just Calm The F**K down for 5 MINUTES!?

[TheKeyToJoy]

Well guess were just closer to a world war now, Iran will probably blame us.

Even if we didn’t do anything this time.

[Free Algerstonia]

i am ready to fight for my country

[The Second Order of Life]

i am ready to fight for my country

Said the warhawk, urging John Fitzgerald Kennedy to initiate a military amphibious invasion of Cuba, supported by tactical airstrikes, during the missile crisis.

[Free Algerstonia]

i am ready to fight for my country

Said the warhawk, urging John Fitzgerald Kennedy to initiate a military amphibious invasion of Cuba, supported by tactical nukes, during the missile crisis.

cuba should have been invaded

[Port Caverton]

Said the warhawk, urging John Fitzgerald Kennedy to initiate a military amphibious invasion of Cuba, supported by tactical nukes, during the missile crisis.

cuba should have been invaded

You were a Neocon all along?

[Archinstinct]

cuba should have been invaded

You were a Neocon all along?

[Port Caverton]

You were a Neocon all along?

Good meme

[Picairn]

So Israel is responsible for this?

[Mountains and Volcanoes]

So Israel is responsible for this?

Likely, what Iran will assert...

[El Lazaro]

Any proof the explosions/fires are all part of a series of drone strikes? Given, y’know, most of the locations were in the zone around the earthquake, and the targets seem kind of sporadic. And supposing some are indisputably anti-regime attacks, why can’t it be insurgents? Causing moderate damage to a munitions plant and an oil processing facility, among more random targets, is not going to achieve much for a state actor unless they want Iran to blame someone.

If it is a state actor, then it is not the US, and it is not about supporting the protesters. Azerbaijan (with Turkey) and Israel would have different concerns entirely, and I doubt you’d be a fan of most of them. Who else would want to attack Iranian Azerbaijan (and nearby Persian regions) besides the Islamic Republic itself? It’s an excellent justification for conducting an “anti-terrorism” operation against Azeri Iranians, and perhaps a going a little bit further.

[Northern Socialist Council Republics]

This sort of nonsense is why the NPT should be abolished and secondary powers should be provisioned with the ability to defend themselves.

If the OP is right and it is an external state actor that is sponsoring it, that makes it an act of international military aggression, does it not?

[El Lazaro]

This sort of nonsense is why the NPT should be abolished and secondary powers should be provisioned with the ability to defend themselves.

If the OP is right and it is an external state actor that is sponsoring it, that makes it an act of international military aggression, does it not?

Average pro-Russia “multipolarity” simp. No, Iran should not be able to start WW3 if Erdogan nudged a small country into attacking a wannabe totalitarian state because he wants internal political clout, or whatever other silly scenario could have happened. And the current regime shouldn’t get to decide for the people it’s about to nuke who actually perpetrated the attacks, given that a failing state which orders paramilitary death squads to murder and rape ethnic minority dissidents is not terribly suited to make moral judgments.

[New Zoigai]

World tension 40

[Constaniana]

The West did so well in our last war in a mountainous desert country; I'm sure we would do even better on this next go around.

This sort of nonsense is why the NPT should be abolished and secondary powers should be provisioned with the ability to defend themselves.

Only on condition that they make cool custom platforms for said nuclear arms. Nuclear railway artillery, Boeing 747 battleships, etc. I want each noteworthy military having their own brightly-coloured cool custom units; no more Lockheed Martin Everything this and Chinese Ripoff that and Soviet This Here.

[Senkaku]

"Explosions have been reported at military installations throughout Iran, with at least one strike on a reported MOD Ammunition Depot in Isfahan. Limited information is available, but video evidence suggests drone strikes against Iranian facilities by another nation. This comes after a 5.9 earthquake shook the region earlier today, killing at least 2. Air defenses around the nation are reported to have been activated." - The New News (TNN)

Sources
TNN Map: https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewe ... 897208&z=3

Isfahan
https://t.me/conflictzone/35661

https://twitter.com/WarMonitors/status/ ... 3214277632

Khoy
https://twitter.com/no_itsmyturn/status ... 5103536128

Azarshahr
https://t.me/istohnik/30309

Earthquake Damage
https://t.me/istohnik/30304

These videos, at least, don't really seem to offer any "evidence that suggests drone strikes," I'd love to see other material if whatever "The New News" is can link it or OP or anyone else can provide it. Domestic militants or random lone wolves are perfectly capable of duct-taping some dynamite to a quadcopter, so although "drone attack!!!1" sounds splashy, it doesn't necessarily imply state actors were involved, and given the coincident earthquake and the general dearth of information on the situation at the moment, I don't think we can even safely assume that there has been a drone attack at all. If it was, people will need to assess any actually decent video to see what type or types of aircraft were used, which will help support any conclusion about who was actually responsible.

And frankly, given the issues that struggling dictatorships often have in responding to natural disasters, I wouldn't be remotely surprised if in a few days this turned out to be some sort of rumormongering panic stirred up by the regime to distract from their inadequate earthquake response. We'll see what evidence they can provide.

The Iranian people have asked for outside help. I've spoken to some in the country, they want help. Other countries should get involved to liberate the people of Iran. It's time.

Iranian people have asked for outside help; that does not mean "the Iranian people" have asked for help-- please straighten out your understanding of English articles before people of your ilk get us involved in another war.

This sort of nonsense is why the NPT should be abolished

Hold your horses, please.

and secondary powers should be provisioned with the ability to defend themselves.

They have state-of-the-art air defenses and ballistic missiles, not to mention a sizeable standing army. Do you think, even if this does prove to be a state-sponsored drone attack, that they would respond with nuclear weapons anyways, if they had them? Nukes don't deter opportunistic lower-level aggression like this, it's not what they're meant for. If this is a case of state-to-state hostilities, and anything other than American stealth drones were used, then the responsibility for this incursion's success lays almost as much with whoever was supposed to be manning Isfahan's air defenses. Recall the fate of Ukraine Int'l. Airlines Flight 752 and ask yourself whether the issue here is whether Iran's air defenses have the ability to keep it secure, or whether the people manning them have the judgement to do so.

If the OP is right and it is an external state actor that is sponsoring it, that makes it an act of international military aggression, does it not?

Yes. However, OP seems to be reacting quite prematurely; I would like to wait for much more information to come through before everyone decides this is a peer-level adversary penetrating Iranian airspace to strike military targets. Right now it seems like all we know for sure is that there's been an earthquake, an ammunition dump in Isfahan has blown up, and reports of other explosions and possibly of unidentified lights in the sky have come in from a few other areas-- hardly enough to support the OP's rather breathless and credulous claims of imminent war or whatever.

[El Lazaro]

"Explosions have been reported at military installations throughout Iran, with at least one strike on a reported MOD Ammunition Depot in Isfahan. Limited information is available, but video evidence suggests drone strikes against Iranian facilities by another nation. This comes after a 5.9 earthquake shook the region earlier today, killing at least 2. Air defenses around the nation are reported to have been activated." - The New News (TNN)

Sources
TNN Map: https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewe ... 897208&z=3

Isfahan
https://t.me/conflictzone/35661

https://twitter.com/WarMonitors/status/ ... 3214277632

Khoy
https://twitter.com/no_itsmyturn/status ... 5103536128

Azarshahr
https://t.me/istohnik/30309

Earthquake Damage
https://t.me/istohnik/30304

These videos, at least, don't really seem to offer any "evidence that suggests drone strikes," I'd love to see other material if whatever "The New News" is can link it or OP or anyone else can provide it. Domestic militants or random lone wolves are perfectly capable of duct-taping some dynamite to a quadcopter, so although "drone attack!!!1" sounds splashy, it doesn't necessarily imply state actors were involved, and given the coincident earthquake and the general dearth of information on the situation at the moment, I don't think we can even safely assume that there has been a drone attack at all.

The Iranian people have asked for outside help. I've spoken to some in the country, they want help. Other countries should get involved to liberate the people of Iran. It's time.

Iranian people have asked for outside help; that does not mean "the Iranian people" have asked for help-- please straighten out your understanding of English articles before people of your ilk get us involved in another war.

This sort of nonsense is why the NPT should be abolished

Hold your horses, please.

and secondary powers should be provisioned with the ability to defend themselves.

They have state-of-the-art air defenses and ballistic missiles, not to mention a sizeable standing army. Do you think, even if this does prove to be a state-sponsored drone attack, that they would respond with nuclear weapons anyways, if they had them? Nukes don't deter opportunistic lower-level aggression like this, it's not what they're meant for.

If the OP is right and it is an external state actor that is sponsoring it, that makes it an act of international military aggression, does it not?

Yes. However, OP seems to be reacting quite prematurely; I would like to wait for much more information to come through before everyone decides this is a peer-level adversary penetrating Iranian airspace to strike military targets.

This, lol. Best not to assume Iran is being attacked without reason, especially when the Khamenei regime is only one with “evidence” that somebody else did it and expects everyone to just take their word for it.

[Christian Confederation]

It's Eather Saudi Arabia, America, Isreal, or John Bolton

[The free city of Kravolec]

World tension 40

its more like 60 by now

[Cannot think of a name]

Did someone figure out that Rouge Statistan was Iran in Top Gun Maverick and decide to give it a whirl?

Also, god fucking damn it.

[The Holy Therns]

The West did so well in our last war in a mountainous desert country; I'm sure we would do even better on this next go around.

This sort of nonsense is why the NPT should be abolished and secondary powers should be provisioned with the ability to defend themselves.

Only on condition that they make cool custom platforms for said nuclear arms. Nuclear railway artillery, Boeing 747 battleships, etc. I want each noteworthy military having their own brightly-coloured cool custom units; no more Lockheed Martin Everything this and Chinese Ripoff that and Soviet This Here.

Metal Gear!?

[The Lone Alliance]

Looks like Iran's next shipment of drones to Russia are going to be delayed.