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[PASSED] Repeal Museums of Musical Heritage

Postby The Serendipitous » Wed Dec 21, 2022 7:01 pm

Whereas the efforts to catalog music of local, national, and international importance set out by General Assembly Resolution #86, "Museums of Musical Heritage", have now been in place for over a decade,

And whereas the target has no binding clauses, only suggesting that nations and entities within nations contribute music,

And whereas having no mandates makes the resolution toothless, as any entity trying to destroy culture by prohibiting music can simply not allow the donation of relevant materials,

And whereas the resolution fails to properly address access to the musical museums themselves, instead suggesting the dissemination of the database, which falls short in the preservation of these heritage artifacts, which may still be readily withheld from public knowledge,

And whereas the manner in which the resolution attempts to accomplish its goals is largely inefficient, with the creation of two bureaucratic entities in order to accomplish its goals, wasting the precious resources this assembly has on a process that is largely unnecessary in order to truly preserve musical heritage, and that this inefficiency prevents further funding into other subject areas, including fundamental human rights and safety mandates,

And whereas any resolution that simultaneously does not accomplish its goals and prevents the World Assembly from achieving its more pertinent tasks does not deserve to stay on the books,

Therefore, be it resolved by the World Assembly that General Assembly Resolution #86, "Museums of Musical Heritage", is repealed.


"We, as a collective, understand deeply and innately the importance of music to nearly all cultures and species within the universe. Regardless of that importance, this misallocation of the World Assembly's resources has gone on for too long when there are much more pressing matters to consider before the Assembly."

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Postby Excidium Planetis » Wed Dec 21, 2022 9:00 pm

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Good luck, the last two attempts were both overwhelmingly defeated at vote.
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Postby The Serendipitous » Wed Dec 21, 2022 9:12 pm

Excidium Planetis wrote:OOC:
Good luck, the last two attempts were both overwhelmingly defeated at vote.

OOC:

And the worst that can happen is it's defeated again.

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Postby Excidium Planetis » Wed Dec 21, 2022 10:23 pm

The Serendipitous wrote:
Excidium Planetis wrote:OOC:
Good luck, the last two attempts were both overwhelmingly defeated at vote.

OOC:

And the worst that can happen is it's defeated again.

Actually the worst that could happen is Museums of Musical Heritage 2 gets passed.
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Postby Kenmoria » Sat Dec 24, 2022 3:55 pm

“Your third clause convinced me. GA #92 is evidently close to useless at achieving its stated objectives. Therefore, I support this. I do believe that ‘suggesting the nations’ in the second clause should be ‘suggesting that nations’, but that appears to be a scrivener’s error.”
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Kenmoria wrote:“Your third clause convinced me. GA #92 is evidently close to useless at achieving its stated objectives. Therefore, I support this. I do believe that ‘suggesting the nations’ in the second clause should be ‘suggesting that nations’, but that appears to be a scrivener’s error.”

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Postby Simone Republic » Sun Dec 25, 2022 2:41 am

I wouldn't bother if I was you, but good luck.

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Postby The Serendipitous » Thu Dec 29, 2022 12:05 pm

OOC: I have made a slight change to the bill. I noticed that the fourth clause, all of the examples were nearly alliterative. I simply made it so that they were alliterative, to add some character to the text.

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Postby The Serendipitous » Wed Jan 11, 2023 2:08 pm

OOC: Been about 2 weeks, anyone got anymore feedback?

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Postby Heidgaudr » Tue Jan 17, 2023 1:28 pm

OOC: The cost argument seems to be unconvincing to many voters. Even though I think it's a legitimate argument to make, it may come across as flippant to many people because cost is a common argument against supporting artists IRL. Even though they aren't necessarily linked, to many voters the IRL implications are probably difficult or impossible to shake off.

Asgeir took out a map of the General Assembly building from his jacket pocket. As he opened it, some of the many folds cascaded down to the floor into a massive pile of cartographic spaghetti. He flipped through various pages to find where he was standing in what could kindly be called a labyrinthine maze of offices and debate chambers. He eventually traced out a path on the map to the debate chamber where the Serendipitousian's proposal for Repeal: Museums of Musical Heritage was being held and then tossed the now-used map into the nearest garbage bin.

After nearly a half-hour of brisk walking, he finally arrived. A quick rapping on the door yielded no response, so he opened it himself. Inside, the chamber was dark and smelled slightly of stale air. He fumbled around feeling the wall until he found the light switches which he quickly flicked to the 'on' position. Asgeir pulled out his phone to quickly review the video archive for finding where the Serendipitousian delegation was seated. After skimming through the video for a few seconds, he was able to pinpoint his destination.

Asgeir took out a small pocket notebook he kept in his jacket and began writing a note to the author:

Several proposals for the target resolution have failed at vote due to arguing that MoMH is too costly. Doing so in your proposal is likely a significant detriment to passage. Instead, I believe you should focus exclusively on how MoMH actually does nothing.

Good luck!

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Postby Excidium Planetis » Tue Jan 17, 2023 9:58 pm

OOC:
I would like to add that the most recent attempt, a joint effort by me and Ice States, primarily argued that the target didn't do anything, and it was STILL defeated at vote quote overwhelmingly.

However, I agree that the cost argument is not very convincing. It is made even worse than the cost argument in real life, because in real life at least people can sympathize with not wanting to pay higher taxes, whereas in NS, the money is fictitious so an impact on wallets from frivolous spending is non-existent.
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Postby Roylaii » Tue Jan 17, 2023 10:25 pm

OOC: There have been a few attempts at repealing this now, a objective of which I wholeheartedly support, but have all failed at vote. As ineffectual and wasteful as this resolution is, I doubt that any attempt to repeal it will be sucessful without some form of replacement to placate the many voters who appear to like having this resolution around. That's not to say I think it needs replacing, I do not, but it seems to me like the only real avenue to a sucessful repeal.
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Postby Princess Rainbow Sparkles » Wed Jan 18, 2023 9:52 am

"This financial argument in the fourth paragraph is weak, because it attacks all arts funding in principle. The Princess does not object to WA funding for the arts. The argument that the WA should generally be defunding arts programs so money can be spent elsewhere is unappealing to her. Our delegation will not support a repeal of MoMH on those grounds."

"If you want to focus on finances, focus on how it was wasteful and pointless to needlessly set up two expensive bureaucracies when one would have been sufficient. Or on how the target resolution requires pecuniary compensation to donors without any sort of fiscally responsible limitations."

"Consider whether the following argument might strengthen the repeal proposal:"

Dismayed that in addressing museum access MoMH failed to require fair, open, and equitable public access to museum facilities, thereby starkly limiting any potential benefit to future generations.


"I believe this is an appropriate criticism, given that the resolution chose to directly address museum access but did so with a mere suggestion that access be made readily available."

"A replacement to MoMH is a project the Princess's government may eventually pick up, but we struggled to come up with anything particularly good the last time we tried and stopped work without publishing a first draft. I do believe that WA members are generally quite fond of their music, and that repeal efforts have suffered from the fact that none of the criticisms of MoMH really point to a way in which it failed to promote musical heritage. Perhaps the above argument would help with that."

"Ultimately, I believe it would be best if there were some sort of replacement resolution on preserving musical heritage in active drafting before this repeal is proposed."

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Postby Simone Republic » Wed Jan 18, 2023 6:23 pm

The Serendipitous wrote:OOC: Been about 2 weeks, anyone got anymore feedback?


Still the same comment that it looks like the West Vesteria repeal will not make quorum and it appears to be a topic where there is a clear majority against repeal.
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Postby The Serendipitous » Mon May 01, 2023 5:14 pm

OOC: Updates have been made, this shall be submitted soon, with or without complaint. I may draft a companion resolution that actually protects Musical Heritage.

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Postby The Ice States » Tue May 02, 2023 3:26 pm

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Postby Desmosthenes and Burke » Tue May 02, 2023 3:55 pm

We wish the repeal the best of luck. The target is a frivolous waste of money that brings little to no value added and fails even the most cursory cost-benefit analysis.
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Postby The Serendipitous » Sat May 06, 2023 1:43 pm

This has been submitted here: https://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_vi ... 1683405567

Assuming it becomes quorate, it shall be voted upon in approximately a month. I shall continue work on the pseudo-replacement of this legislation in the meantime, and this month-long period should give me more than enough time to perfect it.

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Postby The Serendipitous » Thu May 25, 2023 9:13 pm

The Serendipitous wrote:This has been submitted here: https://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_vi ... 1683405567

Assuming it becomes quorate, it shall be voted upon in approximately a month. I shall continue work on the pseudo-replacement of this legislation in the meantime, and this month-long period should give me more than enough time to perfect it.

This has been resubmitted, following a failure to reach quorum.

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Postby Cappedore » Fri Jun 16, 2023 7:56 am

I hardly believe that the protection of cultural musical heritage is a "misallocation" of General Assembly resources, unless you believe that heritage shouldn't be preserved in any way, shape or form.
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Postby Tinhampton » Fri Jun 16, 2023 8:43 am

Cappedore wrote:I hardly believe that the protection of cultural musical heritage is a "misallocation" of General Assembly resources, unless you believe that heritage shouldn't be preserved in any way, shape or form.

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Postby Comfed » Fri Jun 16, 2023 11:08 am

Cappedore wrote:I hardly believe that the protection of cultural musical heritage is a "misallocation" of General Assembly resources, unless you believe that heritage shouldn't be preserved in any way, shape or form.

Indeed, it is only possible for the WA to protect cultural musical heritage and not anyone else in the world.

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