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Congrats Falefal! Nice too see another Initiate earning his cloak and dagger :hug:
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Congratulations, Falafels! :heart:
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The Assassins patiently waited as their prey came into view. A column of unknown guardsmen and a few wardens within the mix, far away from home and their comfortable walled settlements. The Assassins carefully checked their traps and pre-placed bows and arrows while in the shadows the Vampire King slowly glided through the undergrowth of the forest, so silently in fact that it would have been like he was never actually there. His thirst was strong, his self-control even more so despite the smell of fragrant blood emanating from the column.

Flap! Flap! A few flaps of wings could be heard across the forest, even a few in the column noticed it and became unnerved. Yet, the Assassins continued their focus on the approaching column knowing all too well the origins of the flapping noise. Caw! Caw! A black hawk landed on the shoulder of one of the Assassins. The Assassin glanced at it and gave a quick nod and instantly the black hawk swooped towards the column, cawing loudly as it went over the column.

The column, anxious and unnerved, quickly aimed their bows at the black hawk, firing multiple shots, managing to hit it a few times, but failing to knock it down. The bird was seemingly protected by a glowing aura that made the hits bounce off of it. Much to its delight as it disappeared once more into the forest's branches, bringing with it the eyes of the column.

As they looked for the bird, many would not realize that one by one, they were being picked off by a force with such speed that not even a trace of an unfortunate man was left where they stood. The fog slowly rolled over the column, to where sight was but only a few feet away for each unlucky man. Soon enough, no one in the column was left alive. Either disappearing by the hand of the Vampire King or shot in the skull with a well-placed arrow.

Assassins Ben and NPU got out of their hiding places and looked at the havoc they had caused. Pleased. The Vampire King arrived a few seconds after them, wiping from the corner of his lips the taste of blood. On his shoulder, one of the Black Hawks made himself home, and around her neck was a necklace with the name BB emblazed. The Vampire King looked at his fellow brother assassins. "No one left to stop us. Time for the harvest brothers". As he finished he vanished, leaving BB flapping toward NPU's shoulder instead.

NPU looked at Ben with a confused face.[ "Did you not tell the boss the villages were already taken care of?". Ben looked at him with an even confused face, scratching his head. "I thought he knew they were already being taken care of?", Ben looked at BB, who was on NPU's shoulder. "Did you not tell yourself??". BB looked at Ben with an even more confused face. "Huzz! Flapflap! Caw! Samurai! S! Ninja!", it tried to speak but ended up just cawing nonsense.

As the Assassins argued over at the forest, the Vampire King had arrived outside the gates of Meme, one of the villages left defenseless, he was surprised to see the town burning already, and in the distance, he could see numerous other great clouds of smoke. Through the gates of the village, he managed to see all the nearby carnage and destroyed homes that had been caused. He scratched his head, confused.

Just as he was scratching his head being confused and all, a white fluffy Arctic Fox came out of the gate pulling with its mouth a heavy big bag. Noticing the Vampire King, it let go of the bag from its mouth and began to speak telepathically to the Vampire King who was surprised that it could even do that.

"Don't mind me, mister. Just traveling through". Her voice paused before continuing in an annoyed tone. "Also I don't multi". The Artic Fox began to pull once more on her bag and continue on her way, leaving the Vampire King baffled and confused as to how a small mammal could do so much chaos and havoc.


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Postby Witchcraft and Sorcery » Mon Jan 09, 2023 7:38 pm

2 hours ago: Sheik al Jabal agreed to construct embassies between Dar al Islam and The Brotherhood of Malice.
2 hours ago: Valtarre proposed constructing embassies between The Brotherhood of Malice and Dar al Islam.


keeping it very classy, I see


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Postby RiderSyl » Mon Jan 09, 2023 7:57 pm

Witchcraft and Sorcery wrote:
2 hours ago: Sheik al Jabal agreed to construct embassies between Dar al Islam and The Brotherhood of Malice.
2 hours ago: Valtarre proposed constructing embassies between The Brotherhood of Malice and Dar al Islam.


keeping it very classy, I see

I'm very interested in what your problem is with that.
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Postby Gorundu » Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:45 pm

RiderSyl wrote:
Witchcraft and Sorcery wrote:
keeping it very classy, I see

I'm very interested in what your problem is with that.

I don't know...maybe the founder saying "Israel does not have a right to exist" might give one some pause before establishing embassies?
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Postby New Astri » Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:50 pm

Gorundu wrote:
RiderSyl wrote:I'm very interested in what your problem is with that.

I don't know...maybe the founder saying "Israel does not have a right to exist" might give one some pause before establishing embassies?


that is correct, a colonialist, imperialist state actively enacting intense oppression on the people it is stealing land from should not exist. anti-zionism is the world's only normal take. based shayk!
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Postby Second Sovereignty » Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:53 pm

Gorundu wrote:I don't know...maybe the founder saying "Israel does not have a right to exist" might give one some pause before establishing embassies?


I can't imagine why; supporting the liberation of Palestine from a genocidal colonial state is a perfectly reasonable opinion. If that's what nefarious Raiders stand for then I think I know which side of R&D I'd rather be on.
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Postby Zeorus » Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:54 pm

Witchcraft and Sorcery wrote:
2 hours ago: Sheik al Jabal agreed to construct embassies between Dar al Islam and The Brotherhood of Malice.
2 hours ago: Valtarre proposed constructing embassies between The Brotherhood of Malice and Dar al Islam.


keeping it very classy, I see



Yes, as difficult as this may be for you to comprehend, we uphold our treaties. Our agreement was with Islamic States (and therefore with Dar al Islam as its successor) as a community, not with Jawi as an individual. Dar al Islam has no complicity in Jawi's actions and is owed the same respect we gave IS.
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Postby Zeorus » Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:57 pm

Gorundu wrote:
RiderSyl wrote:I'm very interested in what your problem is with that.

I don't know...maybe the founder saying "Israel does not have a right to exist" might give one some pause before establishing embassies?


This is irrelevant to NS politics as Israel is an IRL country, but being BoM's Yiddish anarchist in residence I'll bite: Israel doesn't have a right to exist. No state does. Have a good one!
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Postby Astrobolt » Mon Jan 09, 2023 9:13 pm

What a load of absolute utter rubbish. Let’s be clear, you can heavily criticize Israel’s policies, but selectively saying that the Israeli state has no right to exist crosses a line. Its horrifying to see this comment praised rather than condemned.
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Postby Second Sovereignty » Mon Jan 09, 2023 9:15 pm

Astrobolt wrote:What a load of absolute utter rubbish. Let’s be clear, you can heavily criticize Israel’s policies, but selectively saying that the Israeli state has no right to exist crosses a line. Its horrifying to see this comment praised rather than condemned.


I think that the illegitimacy of an, again, genocidal apartheid state, is a fairly reasonable position. On what grounds could such a state be legitimate?
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Postby Gorundu » Mon Jan 09, 2023 9:19 pm

Zeorus wrote:
Gorundu wrote:I don't know...maybe the founder saying "Israel does not have a right to exist" might give one some pause before establishing embassies?


This is irrelevant to NS politics as Israel is an IRL country, but being BoM's Yiddish anarchist in residence I'll bite: Israel doesn't have a right to exist. No state does. Have a good one!

I don't want to hijack this thread and turn this into NSG, but claiming what I raised was irrelevant because Israel is an IRL country is just utter rubbish. Nazi Germany was an IRL country, I guess we should turn a blind eye too to anyone praising Nazi Germany?

(Before anyone takes what I said out of context, I'm not drawing any equivalencies between anything here. Just pointing out the ridiculousness of "this is irrelevant because it's IRL")
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Postby Zeorus » Mon Jan 09, 2023 9:21 pm

Astrobolt wrote:What a load of absolute utter rubbish. Let’s be clear, you can heavily criticize Israel’s policies, but selectively saying that the Israeli state has no right to exist crosses a line. Its horrifying to see this comment praised rather than condemned.


I'm not being selective. Reminder: anarchist. As I said, no state has a right to exist.

Also, not the cutest thing to for the defender clique to bring this RL political issue up when we construct embassies with the successor region to our treaty ally who happens to be Islamic in nature. Again, completely irrelevant to NS politics (and this thread in particular). Almost like it's a pawn in your game. (Don't worry, we yids are used to it.)
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Postby Zeorus » Mon Jan 09, 2023 9:22 pm

Gorundu wrote:
Zeorus wrote:
This is irrelevant to NS politics as Israel is an IRL country, but being BoM's Yiddish anarchist in residence I'll bite: Israel doesn't have a right to exist. No state does. Have a good one!

I don't want to hijack this thread and turn this into NSG, but claiming what I raised was irrelevant because Israel is an IRL country is just utter rubbish. Nazi Germany was an IRL country, I guess we should turn a blind eye too to anyone praising Nazi Germany?

(Before anyone takes what I said out of context, I'm not drawing any equivalencies between anything here. Just pointing out the ridiculousness of "this is irrelevant because it's IRL")


This is a hell of a Godwin. Props.
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Postby RiderSyl » Mon Jan 09, 2023 9:28 pm

After all the manufactured outrage over BoM and its treaty allies, I am going to have to wait for someone neutral, uninvolved, or raider-aligned to express dismay at this before I take it seriously.

Gorundu wrote:
Zeorus wrote:
This is irrelevant to NS politics as Israel is an IRL country, but being BoM's Yiddish anarchist in residence I'll bite: Israel doesn't have a right to exist. No state does. Have a good one!

I don't want to hijack this thread and turn this into NSG, but claiming what I raised was irrelevant because Israel is an IRL country is just utter rubbish. Nazi Germany was an IRL country, I guess we should turn a blind eye too to anyone praising Nazi Germany?

(Before anyone takes what I said out of context, I'm not drawing any equivalencies between anything here. Just pointing out the ridiculousness of "this is irrelevant because it's IRL")


This is actually a direct comparison to fascists and yet somehow I get the feeling the same people that got on my ass last year will respect your disclaimer. :p
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Postby Gorundu » Mon Jan 09, 2023 9:40 pm

RiderSyl wrote:This is actually a direct comparison to fascists and yet somehow I get the feeling the same people that got on my ass last year will respect your disclaimer. :p

Zeorus wrote:This is a hell of a Godwin. Props.

I mean, there's a couple people here calling Israel a genocidal state, but yeah, go off on me for invoking fascism.
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Postby RiderSyl » Mon Jan 09, 2023 9:49 pm

Gorundu wrote:
RiderSyl wrote:This is actually a direct comparison to fascists and yet somehow I get the feeling the same people that got on my ass last year will respect your disclaimer. :p

Zeorus wrote:This is a hell of a Godwin. Props.

I mean, there's a couple people here calling Israel a genocidal state, but yeah, go off on me for invoking fascism.

Putting aside the foolishness of Invoking fascism in response to calling the state of Israel genocidal, the fact New Astri of The Communist Bloc is one of the people saying it and you're still pulling the fash card is just incredible.
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Postby Zeorus » Mon Jan 09, 2023 9:55 pm

Gorundu wrote:
RiderSyl wrote:This is actually a direct comparison to fascists and yet somehow I get the feeling the same people that got on my ass last year will respect your disclaimer. :p

Zeorus wrote:This is a hell of a Godwin. Props.

I mean, there's a couple people here calling Israel a genocidal state, but yeah, go off on me for invoking fascism.


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Postby Reventus Koth » Mon Jan 09, 2023 10:11 pm

This is getting far beyond the pale for our Gameplay forum embassy, everyone. If you want to debate each other on the Israel/Palestine conflict, I'm sure there's a million other places better designed for this.
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Postby Shirahime » Mon Jan 09, 2023 10:25 pm

RiderSyl wrote:I'm very interested in what your problem is with that.

Hi! Makasta here, whille I don't care about them being raiders at all, but here's my reasoning in short.

1. The natives of the old region I felt made it clear that they would rather not be in GP anymore (at least that's how I understood this post by Shayk viewtopic.php?p=40242649&sid=f96264d35df8fb17bc2df485d2a45998#p40242649 )

2. The WFE for the old region has a line that really rubs me the wrong way (here's my source BTW https://greywardens.xyz/tools/wfe_index ... mic_states its the last line)

"| Kharijism, Islamophobia, fascism, and liberalism are strictly prohibited | " emphasis mine

I know little of the first term used so I will refrain from making any comment there but comparing liberalism to fascism in particular rubs me the wrong way. The two ideologies are radically different even if you think both are bad one simply cannot deny that one is worse and one is just liberalism.

I know I'm not WS so sorry about that, just felt I could give a little bit of insight onto the mindset at play here.
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Postby RiderSyl » Mon Jan 09, 2023 10:34 pm

Shirahime wrote:
RiderSyl wrote:I'm very interested in what your problem is with that.

Hi! Makasta here, whille I don't care about them being raiders at all, but here's my reasoning in short.

1. The natives of the old region I felt made it clear that they would rather not be in GP anymore (at least that's how I understood this post by Shayk viewtopic.php?p=40242649&sid=f96264d35df8fb17bc2df485d2a45998#p40242649 )

2. The WFE for the old region has a line that really rubs me the wrong way (here's my source BTW https://greywardens.xyz/tools/wfe_index ... mic_states its the last line)

"| Kharijism, Islamophobia, fascism, and liberalism are strictly prohibited | " emphasis mine

I know little of the first term used so I will refrain from making any comment there but comparing liberalism to fascism in particular rubs me the wrong way. The two ideologies are radically different even if you think both are bad one simply cannot deny that one is worse and one is just liberalism.

I know I'm not WS so sorry about that, just felt I could give a little bit of insight onto the mindset at play here.


Thanks for clarifying, Makasta. This is definitely insightful.
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Postby Reventus Koth » Mon Jan 09, 2023 10:35 pm

Shirahime wrote:"| Kharijism, Islamophobia, fascism, and liberalism are strictly prohibited | " emphasis mine

I know little of the first term used so I will refrain from making any comment there but comparing liberalism to fascism in particular rubs me the wrong way. The two ideologies are radically different even if you think both are bad one simply cannot deny that one is worse and one is just liberalism.

Hey Makasta, hope your night is going well. I'm pretty sure W&S has some other shit going on with whatever they're thinking, but I think your particular issue is pretty easily explained. Many things can be prohibited in an online message board without necessarily stating that all prohibited practices/beliefs/etc. are all on the same level. The WFE passed no judgment on any of those beliefs, it merely stated that Islamic States was not the place for them.

Do you also find it distasteful that this very forum forbids both requests for homework help and doxxing? That is the level of nitpicking you're currently on.
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