by Australian rePublic » Thu Dec 29, 2022 1:16 am
by Zhinmja » Thu Dec 29, 2022 1:27 am
Peoples Daily: National Popular Assembly approves resolution which bans all public institutions including publicly-run schools, stadiums, festivals, and so on from segregating sports by gender. The resolution also allows for the Ministry of Sports, Culture, and Leisure to revoke any sponsorship or funding from private organizations which gender-segregate sports. The resolution was pushed forward by NPA-President Cathy Shorr (Progressive Peace Party) as the "obvious solution to the question of gender and sex in sports" and as an advancement of gender equality in general.
by Australian rePublic » Thu Dec 29, 2022 1:30 am
Zhinmja wrote:If you want protests without bite you effectively seek to eliminate public meetings as a fundamental agent of change in democracy and sharecropping would still be a pillar of the American agrarian economy if the sharecroppers unions didnt make a nuisance. A result which fundamentally advances democracy.
I specifically oppose anti-vaxxer protests because of their goals not because of their methods.
by American Legionaries » Thu Dec 29, 2022 1:38 am
Australian rePublic wrote:So, let's discuss climate protestors who deliberately block the streets, and railway lines, etc.
At this point, I'm sure we all know about the protestors who want more climate change action causing a nuisance by blocking public streets and railways. At the hight of Covid restrictions, we also had anti-lockdown and anti-vax protestors causing a public nuisance, albeit to a lesser extent
We have had instances of piece of shit protestors who would/have refused to let ambulances pass them:
https://www.independent.co.uk/tv/climat ... -v6cfe3668
We also had that instance where they glued themselves to the Volkswagen floor, and were upset when VW left them there without heat nor a bowl to use as a toilet:
https://www.news.com.au/technology/envi ... b2d0c7e2b5
These protestors are a bloody nuisance. If you support these protestors in their efforts to be a public nuisance, then that must also mean that you should support anti-vaxxers who do the same crap. If you support climate protestors but not anti-vaxxers (a position which I know applies to some NSers), then you are a hypocrite as you are not the arbiter of what is and is not a good cause. That's right, you are not the arbiter. And in case you didn't understand the first two times, you are NOT the arbiter of what is and is not a worthwhile cause. And in case you still don't understand, you are NOT the arbiter of what is and isn't a good cause. Not only that, but by making yourself the arbiter, you are extremely anti-democracy. Likewise, if you support anti-vaxxers who are a public nuisance but not climate protestors (a position which applies to many people, but not so much on NS), if you support anti-vaxxers who are a public nuisance but not climate protestors, you are a hypocrite and by making yourself the arbiter of what is and isn't a worthwhile cause, you are anti-democracy (which is ironic, claiming that you stand for freedom)
I wholeheartedly support your right to protest and would fight for to the death to preserve it. Having said that, however, you have no right to be a public nuisance. People have places to go and things to do, people have deadlines to meet and places to go. Further, you have no right to waste police resources on your crap. Also, it's ironic that climate protestors were demanding that VW turn the heat on, considering the environmental impact of centralised building heating. And to those people who block ambulances for their stupid protests, you're a supreme arsehole. But not just your regular, average, everyday supreme arsehole, but a special kind of supreme arsehole.
Why would you block people's paths anyways? Regular Joes on the street don't make climate policy nor Covid restrictions, and by being a public nuisance, you're just turning people further and further away from your cause. And if you ask me, VW took the best approach out of everybody in the world. Let the protestors wallow in the literal and figurative shit that they created for themselves
As I said earlier, I wholeheartedly support your right to protest, irrespective of what I think of your cause, but there are better ways to do so
Anyways NSG, what do you make of all this?
by Nilokeras » Thu Dec 29, 2022 1:44 am
by Zhinmja » Thu Dec 29, 2022 1:50 am
Australian rePublic wrote:Zhinmja wrote:If you want protests without bite you effectively seek to eliminate public meetings as a fundamental agent of change in democracy and sharecropping would still be a pillar of the American agrarian economy if the sharecroppers unions didnt make a nuisance. A result which fundamentally advances democracy.
I specifically oppose anti-vaxxer protests because of their goals not because of their methods.
You can protest with bite, I support that, I just don't think that you should be a public nuisance. Plenty of ways to get your message across without being a public nuisance. And yea, fair call on your stance on anti-vaxxers, one of the most rational ones for someone who supports being a public nuisances
Peoples Daily: National Popular Assembly approves resolution which bans all public institutions including publicly-run schools, stadiums, festivals, and so on from segregating sports by gender. The resolution also allows for the Ministry of Sports, Culture, and Leisure to revoke any sponsorship or funding from private organizations which gender-segregate sports. The resolution was pushed forward by NPA-President Cathy Shorr (Progressive Peace Party) as the "obvious solution to the question of gender and sex in sports" and as an advancement of gender equality in general.
by Dumb Ideologies » Thu Dec 29, 2022 2:19 am
by Zhinmja » Thu Dec 29, 2022 3:01 am
Dumb Ideologies wrote:It's excusable or noble if people I agree with do it, but otherwise a sign of the moral depravity of the opposition.
Perceptions of justness of the cause distort things a hell of a lot. Seeing disruption for something that you see as trivial or harmful is generally going to result in wanting to have it stopped because it's 'pointless' or 'ridiculous'. Whereas enforcement action against people doing something you agree with will seem as a crackdown on noble defiance and evidence that the constables are blighters.
Peoples Daily: National Popular Assembly approves resolution which bans all public institutions including publicly-run schools, stadiums, festivals, and so on from segregating sports by gender. The resolution also allows for the Ministry of Sports, Culture, and Leisure to revoke any sponsorship or funding from private organizations which gender-segregate sports. The resolution was pushed forward by NPA-President Cathy Shorr (Progressive Peace Party) as the "obvious solution to the question of gender and sex in sports" and as an advancement of gender equality in general.
by Point Blob » Thu Dec 29, 2022 3:10 am
by Zhinmja » Thu Dec 29, 2022 3:22 am
Point Blob wrote:People are already a public nuisance regardless of what they're doing. Protesters are no worse for it.
The only problem with protesters is that they're not generally achieving anything, which is precisely why the protesting is legal.
As I've said countless times, any means of genuinely enacting change in a society is illegal and generally taboo besides. The things we're "allowed" to do are only so to give the impression of freedom where there is none. Bread & Circuses. If protesting could actually achieve anything, it would be unanimously outlawed by the cowards in government. They've had many centuries to become well-practiced at manipulation and subterfuge.
Really though... getting annoyed because protesters are "being a nuisance"? That is just petty.
Peoples Daily: National Popular Assembly approves resolution which bans all public institutions including publicly-run schools, stadiums, festivals, and so on from segregating sports by gender. The resolution also allows for the Ministry of Sports, Culture, and Leisure to revoke any sponsorship or funding from private organizations which gender-segregate sports. The resolution was pushed forward by NPA-President Cathy Shorr (Progressive Peace Party) as the "obvious solution to the question of gender and sex in sports" and as an advancement of gender equality in general.
by Emotional Support Crocodile » Thu Dec 29, 2022 3:27 am
by The Alma Mater » Thu Dec 29, 2022 4:11 am
by Dimetrodon Empire » Thu Dec 29, 2022 7:32 am
Emotional Support Crocodile wrote:Thinking back over the last half century, I can't think of a single time I've been inconvenienced by protestors. I've been inconvenienced by roads and pavements being barricaded off multiple times by sporting events and celebrations, Royalty and senior politicians visiting, a couple of times by racist cunts marching, and once by a really big religious procession.
George Orwell wrote:Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism, as I understand it.
by Dimetrodon Empire » Thu Dec 29, 2022 7:38 am
George Orwell wrote:Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism, as I understand it.
by Ifreann » Thu Dec 29, 2022 7:47 am
by Haganham » Thu Dec 29, 2022 8:15 am
by The Two Jerseys » Thu Dec 29, 2022 9:25 am
Australian rePublic wrote:We also had that instance where they glued themselves to the Volkswagen floor, and were upset when VW left them there without heat nor a bowl to use as a toilet:
https://www.news.com.au/technology/envi ... b2d0c7e2b5
by Mountains and Volcanoes » Thu Dec 29, 2022 9:32 am
Along those same lines...Haganham wrote:Nuisance aside. Any organization that attempts to place responsibility for climate change at the feet of commuters taking public transport, instead of "philanthropists" flying private jets, should be viewed with suspicion. The wealthy responsible for unsustainable, environmentally harmful practices have a long history of hijacking environmental movements to place responsibility for the harm they've done at the feet of the ordinary people who had no say in the matter.
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