by San Lumen » Sun Dec 04, 2022 6:34 pm
by The Black Forrest » Sun Dec 04, 2022 7:18 pm
by Ifreann » Sun Dec 04, 2022 7:59 pm
San Lumen wrote:...The whole point of acting is to be something your not and convince someone you are that....Obviously a character who is black should be played someone of the demographic and I do think gay actors should get roles playing gay characters...
by Pasong Tirad » Sun Dec 04, 2022 8:12 pm
San Lumen wrote:but some take it way to too far
by USS Monitor » Sun Dec 04, 2022 8:21 pm
by Repreteop » Sun Dec 04, 2022 8:27 pm
Shermania wrote:I don't know a single blind person who enjoyed watching Charlie Cox play Daredevil.
(Somebody edited this lol)Repreteop wrote:I have never wanted to fast. I like food too much. Though we always ate light after Yom Kippur. Bagels, lox, whitefish.
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by Ifreann » Sun Dec 04, 2022 8:29 pm
Pasong Tirad wrote:San Lumen wrote:but some take it way to too far
It's a scaremongering tactic from more traditional folks in the entertainment industry to assume that people from underrepresented communities are taking it "way too far" with respect to wanting folks from those communities to play characters that represent them on screen, stage or radio. Nobody expects an actual blind person to play a blind superhero who can do 5-minute-long fight scenes while doing gymnastic twirls here and there. Nobody expects a person with actual ALS to portray themselves pre-deterioration. This is a stupid topic.
by San Lumen » Sun Dec 04, 2022 8:30 pm
USS Monitor wrote:I think the important thing is portraying it in a way that's convincing.
That does not always mean the actors have to have the same disability as a character they're playing, but it might be a good idea to talk to some people who do have the disability and get an understanding of how it works so you can avoid inaccurate stereotypes.
Ifreann wrote:Pasong Tirad wrote:It's a scaremongering tactic from more traditional folks in the entertainment industry to assume that people from underrepresented communities are taking it "way too far" with respect to wanting folks from those communities to play characters that represent them on screen, stage or radio. Nobody expects an actual blind person to play a blind superhero who can do 5-minute-long fight scenes while doing gymnastic twirls here and there. Nobody expects a person with actual ALS to portray themselves pre-deterioration. This is a stupid topic.
I mean, why couldn't a blind person play Daredevil? Stunt doubles do exist. Charlie Cox probably isn't doing doing all those gymnastic twirls.
by Ifreann » Sun Dec 04, 2022 8:36 pm
San Lumen wrote:USS Monitor wrote:I think the important thing is portraying it in a way that's convincing.
That does not always mean the actors have to have the same disability as a character they're playing, but it might be a good idea to talk to some people who do have the disability and get an understanding of how it works so you can avoid inaccurate stereotypes.
On this I can agree.Ifreann wrote:I mean, why couldn't a blind person play Daredevil? Stunt doubles do exist. Charlie Cox probably isn't doing doing all those gymnastic twirls.
because that's the whole darn point of acting.
by Bakivaland » Sun Dec 04, 2022 8:56 pm
by Pasong Tirad » Sun Dec 04, 2022 9:02 pm
Ifreann wrote:Pasong Tirad wrote:It's a scaremongering tactic from more traditional folks in the entertainment industry to assume that people from underrepresented communities are taking it "way too far" with respect to wanting folks from those communities to play characters that represent them on screen, stage or radio. Nobody expects an actual blind person to play a blind superhero who can do 5-minute-long fight scenes while doing gymnastic twirls here and there. Nobody expects a person with actual ALS to portray themselves pre-deterioration. This is a stupid topic.
I mean, why couldn't a blind person play Daredevil? Stunt doubles do exist. Charlie Cox probably isn't doing doing all those gymnastic twirls.
by USS Monitor » Sun Dec 04, 2022 9:04 pm
by Vikanias » Sun Dec 04, 2022 9:06 pm
by Ifreann » Sun Dec 04, 2022 9:13 pm
by PhilTech » Sun Dec 04, 2022 9:23 pm
by Rusozak » Sun Dec 04, 2022 9:32 pm
by Kerwa » Sun Dec 04, 2022 9:34 pm
by USS Monitor » Sun Dec 04, 2022 9:41 pm
Rusozak wrote:Ifreann wrote:But blackface is unacceptable. Is there a consistent principle underlying these seemingly contradictory beliefs?
There's a cultural and historical context to blackface that makes it a lot more than just being about an actor wearing makeup to appear as a different skin tone. Otherwise the opposite, black people in "whiteface", would be just as controversial.
by Pasong Tirad » Sun Dec 04, 2022 9:50 pm
Kerwa wrote:I’m with Berthold Brecht. In order to introduce Verfremdungseffeckt Dare Devil should be played by an able bodied actor in a wheelchair. Occasionally he (or preferably she) should just get up and walk around for no reason and without explanation, while remaining in the chair for all the action sequences of course.
It would vastly improve the production.
by The Gas Kussolova » Sun Dec 04, 2022 9:54 pm
The Black Forrest wrote:Acting is the ability to portray something you are not.
The fact a person represents a particular culture or disabled is irrelevant. Such a person might be factual and yet be a horrid actor.
by Rusozak » Sun Dec 04, 2022 9:56 pm
USS Monitor wrote:Rusozak wrote:
There's a cultural and historical context to blackface that makes it a lot more than just being about an actor wearing makeup to appear as a different skin tone. Otherwise the opposite, black people in "whiteface", would be just as controversial.
Black people trying to look white is pretty controversial....
by Reploid Productions » Sun Dec 04, 2022 10:04 pm
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