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Myrensis
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Postby Myrensis » Thu Dec 01, 2022 5:34 am

Shrillland wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:So I found something interesting out. The speaker is elected by the majority of the votes cast, not the majority of the representatives.

What this means is that the actual number for majority can be far lower. As of right now the majority number is 217. However if day for example the 31 republicans who all voted to nominate Biggs decided to just not vote or voted present then the majority needed would be 202. Which means the democrats would control the speakership.

Granted this is unlikely to happen but it would be funny to see. More likely is democrats working to support a centrist candidate on the second round like David Valadao or Jerrod Golden for speaker


I think Valadao would be the better option, to name any Democrat would be exceedingly bad optics given that the Republicans did get an albeit slim majority of seats.


Would it though? I'm not really sure how much traction Republicans are going to get out of "It's not fair of the Democrats to take advantage of our complete inability to function as a party! We're supposed to be in charge of the House!"

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Postby Golgothastan » Thu Dec 01, 2022 11:01 am

Incredible thread on Kanye West's appearance on InfoWars.

Some highlights:

Alex Jones: You're not Hitler, you're not a Nazi.

Kanye: Well, I see good things about Hitler, also...Every human being has value that they brought to the tabled, especially Hitler


Alex Jones is trying to close the segment, but Kanye keeps interrupting him with the Netanyahu voice and waving the net.

Jones: I don't like Nazis
Kanye, as the commercial begins: I like Hitler.


Kanye: "They did good things too, we've got to stop dissing the Nazis all the time."

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Postby Kazak Yeli » Thu Dec 01, 2022 11:03 am


Ye's points have been proven to be right.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Dec 01, 2022 11:06 am

Golgothastan wrote:Incredible thread on Kanye West's appearance on InfoWars.

Some highlights:

Alex Jones: You're not Hitler, you're not a Nazi.

Kanye: Well, I see good things about Hitler, also...Every human being has value that they brought to the tabled, especially Hitler


Alex Jones is trying to close the segment, but Kanye keeps interrupting him with the Netanyahu voice and waving the net.

Jones: I don't like Nazis
Kanye, as the commercial begins: I like Hitler.


Kanye: "They did good things too, we've got to stop dissing the Nazis all the time."

No wonder he's hanging around with fascists these days.


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Ye's points have been proven to be right.

Found the Nazi.
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Postby Des-Bal » Thu Dec 01, 2022 11:08 am

Kazak Yeli wrote:

Ye's points have been proven to be right.

His points can be treated with medication.
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Postby Kazak Yeli » Thu Dec 01, 2022 11:09 am

Ifreann wrote:Found the Nazi.

You don't think that it's tragically hilarious that he says those things, and then finds himself unable to make transactions using his bank card?
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Postby Sordhau » Thu Dec 01, 2022 11:10 am

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Ye's points have been proven to be right.


Excuse me but what the fuck?
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Dec 01, 2022 11:12 am

Kazak Yeli wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Found the Nazi.

You don't think that it's tragically hilarious that he says those things, and then finds himself unable to make transactions using his bank card?

You believe in the fascist conspiracy theory about Jews controlling the banks?
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Dec 01, 2022 11:13 am

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Kazak Yeli wrote:Ye's points have been proven to be right.


Excuse me but what the fuck?

We're watching Kanye make antisemitism more popular in real time.
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Thu Dec 01, 2022 11:13 am

Kamerad Kanye is one of the weirder parts of this timeline but I'm here for it.
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Postby Kazak Yeli » Thu Dec 01, 2022 11:15 am

Ifreann wrote:
Kazak Yeli wrote:You don't think that it's tragically hilarious that he says those things, and then finds himself unable to make transactions using his bank card?

You believe in the fascist conspiracy theory about Jews controlling the banks?

I'm really not sure. I was completely sure that I didn't until Ye was persecuted for voicing his opinion.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Dec 01, 2022 11:17 am

Kazak Yeli wrote:
Ifreann wrote:You believe in the fascist conspiracy theory about Jews controlling the banks?

I'm really not sure. I was completely sure that I didn't until Ye was persecuted for voicing his opinion.

He's not being persecuted, his business partners are dropping him because being a giant fucking antisemite is usually bad for business.
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Postby Golgothastan » Thu Dec 01, 2022 11:18 am

Ifreann wrote:being a giant fucking antisemite is usually bad for business.

Idk, there seems to be something of a market for it.

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Postby Tarsonis » Thu Dec 01, 2022 11:18 am

Kazak Yeli wrote:
Ifreann wrote:You believe in the fascist conspiracy theory about Jews controlling the banks?

I'm really not sure. I was completely sure that I didn't until Ye was persecuted for voicing his opinion.


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Postby Des-Bal » Thu Dec 01, 2022 11:18 am

Kazak Yeli wrote:You don't think that it's tragically hilarious that he says those things, and then finds himself unable to make transactions using his bank card?

You certainly say there's an irony in saying jews control the banks and the media and immediately being blacklisted by banks and the media but doesn't substantiate his claims. There aren't a lot of conspiracies you can levy against groups or institutions that are going to leave those groups or institutions on friendly terms with you.
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Postby Dimetrodon Empire » Thu Dec 01, 2022 11:21 am

Kazak Yeli wrote:

Ye's points have been proven to be right.

Ye has been proven to be mentally ill.
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Postby Dimetrodon Empire » Thu Dec 01, 2022 11:24 am

Sordhau wrote:
Kazak Yeli wrote:Ye's points have been proven to be right.


Excuse me but what the fuck?

They always out themselves.

Kazak Yeli wrote:
Ifreann wrote:You believe in the fascist conspiracy theory about Jews controlling the banks?

I'm really not sure. I was completely sure that I didn't until Ye was persecuted for voicing his opinion.

No, it's bad for business to do business with someone like that, so they're going to flee, especially with lots of people with those beliefs later engaging in violence. Whether you think the reaction is justified or not, such a reaction is not proof.

I think you always had such opinions and feel emboldened.
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Postby Mountains and Volcanoes » Thu Dec 01, 2022 11:28 am

Kazak Yeli wrote:
Ifreann wrote:You believe in the fascist conspiracy theory about Jews controlling the banks?
I'm really not sure. I was completely sure that I didn't until Ye was persecuted for voicing his opinion.
”Persecution” for tacitly supporting or outright supporting nazis? :rofl: Dude you lost me... speaking of; we’re in trouble!
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Thu Dec 01, 2022 11:28 am

Kazak Yeli wrote:
Ifreann wrote:You believe in the fascist conspiracy theory about Jews controlling the banks?

I'm really not sure. I was completely sure that I didn't until Ye was persecuted for voicing his opinion.

Say it.

Go on, dont be shy. Say it.
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Postby Emotional Support Crocodile » Thu Dec 01, 2022 11:30 am

So neo-Nazism is going to be Kanye West's platform for his Presidential bid?
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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Thu Dec 01, 2022 11:31 am

Emotional Support Crocodile wrote:So neo-Nazism is going to be Kanye West's platform for his Presidential bid?


He’s running for president?
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Postby Catholic Republic of Navarre » Thu Dec 01, 2022 11:32 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Kazak Yeli wrote:I'm really not sure. I was completely sure that I didn't until Ye was persecuted for voicing his opinion.

Say it.

Go on, dont be shy. Say it.



Beautiful when these guys say the quiet part out loud.

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Postby Ifreann » Thu Dec 01, 2022 11:33 am

Emotional Support Crocodile wrote:So neo-Nazism is going to be Kanye West's platform for his Presidential bid?

Seems like.
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Postby Emotional Support Crocodile » Thu Dec 01, 2022 11:33 am

The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Emotional Support Crocodile wrote:So neo-Nazism is going to be Kanye West's platform for his Presidential bid?


He’s running for president?


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-63754702
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Thu Dec 01, 2022 11:35 am

Alex Jones looking freaked out that his guest is being too weird even for him is absolute gold.
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