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GreatOceania
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Postby GreatOceania » Tue Oct 18, 2022 6:20 pm

Mobilization of Oceanian Armed Forces declared all eligible citizen called upon for mandatory military service

The Ministry of Peace has ringed the bugle which the men and women have heard from all branches of the Oceanian Armed Forces have been mobilized for a future campaign not only are active units being ready but also reserve units are being active to bolster the manpower Homeland and Land Defense Units might see transfer to the various needed sectors of the military because of this not only was a mobilization was declared but with the conscription act in place, all eligible men and women that are not in any military branch or civil service are told to enlist or face harsh penalties ranging from deduction of ration credits to time in prisons.

The Ministry of Peace hopes to get around 300,000 to 500,000 or even more fresh recruits into the Military to help increase the manpower however this also means they'll need to allocate resources from other sectors to the defense industry to equip the new soldiers.

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Postby Livonian Social Democratic Republic » Tue Oct 18, 2022 8:32 pm

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Parliament Conducts Emergency Vote

Having heeded to the word of the protests, Parliament has announced the official "resignation" of Acting Prime Minister Admiral Dworak. Livonian forces have also been ordered to withdraw from protests that have not blocked major government offices. With several candidates all eagerly awaiting to see who will win the elections. Although most have reason to believe that the National or Federal party will win, with the rise in radicalism in Livonia, anyone may win.
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Trans-Uralia
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Postby Trans-Uralia » Tue Oct 18, 2022 11:47 pm

Bering Strait

Amur-class submarine "K-2315" was engaged with an enemy submarine,
and according to the information acquired from a single passive sonar
ping, it was discovered that it was a Mitheldalondian ship named the
USS Seawolf. It continued to pursue the now stricken USS Seawolf.

Capt. Ivan Vakhromeyev had ordered the loading of tube one, and for
tube two to remain on standby. The Communications Chief was ordered
to report the contact with the nearby Slava Class Cruiser "Varyag"
It was from there, protocol dictated that the report makes it's way to
the General Staff and the Ministry of Defense.

The submarine's SLOT buoy is launched, quickly reaching
the surface of the sea.

"Varyag, Varyag, K-2315 reporting."

"K-2315 reporting hostile vessel at 60.86894575791237, -170.55329256997436,
passive ping relayed Mitheldalondian Los Angeles Class 'USS Seawolf'. Engaged
with hostile in compliance with protocol."

"Affirmative K-2315." The Communications Crew aboard the Varyag responded.

The officers aboard the Varyag received the news of the presence of the
Mitheldalondian Submarine and had marked it accordingly on a map in
the Combat Information Center (CIC) of the ship. Varyag Communications
Officer was then ordered to report the contact to the nearest Naval base
in Kotzebue.

Aboard the Varyag crusier, two KA-27 ASW Helos are scrambled.The Helos
fly a few meters above the water, eventually coming to a hover. The
Helos launch their on-board Sonar Probes, letting them hit the surface of
the sea, eventually letting them sink below into the icy depths. And then
they awaited for the ping of the USS Seawolf.
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Postby Mets Hayk » Wed Oct 19, 2022 2:54 am

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Grand Alliance Splits: Akimov and Stepanyan Blocs Established
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Indeed, tis quite a surprise...

Earlier today, Sergey Akimov - the current prime minister and leader of the Grand Alliance, which has dominated the National Assembly for any a month - announced its untimely, and undoubtedly unfortunate demise; citing internal disputes. Indeed, Twas of no surprise when the prime minister announced the formation of the 'Sergey Akimov Bloc', or the 'Party of Legionnaires', comprising the more radical - militarist - elements of the party. Such radicals, however, had made up a minority of Grand Alliance and - as such - has put the Akimov Bloc behind its (newfound) rivals: the Karekin Stepanyan Bloc, colloquially known as the 'Moderates'. Per a poll held recently in Yerevan - around 51% of the population had, interestingly enough, been supportive of the former - while 48% proclaimed their support for the latter, and 1% did not answer - or were neutral. As such, it is expected that - while currently holding a minority in the National Assembly - the Akimov Bloc may see a staunch increase in seats.

It is worth noting that - while both are supportive of a monarchical system - the Akimov Bloc supports a quote-unquote 'Prussian stance', which is, in Akimov's words, a government dominated by military officials; citing the need for an 'Armenian Bismarck'. The Stepanyan Bloc - however - is in favour of constitutionalism, believing that the government must return to the late Hrach's form of governing. Nonetheless, it has been argued - by many a political analyst - that the two 'parties' will, at some point, re-unite.
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Postby Anagonia » Wed Oct 19, 2022 7:56 am

DEFCON TWO AUTHORIZED - NATION ON HIGH ALERT FOR POSSIBLE WAR; MILITARY POLICE ARRIVE TO LIVONIA


Department of National Defense, Main Headquarters
Liberty, State of Liberty, CSA


President Mileethus Canisilus addressed the nation in an emergency press briefing today to announce that the Confederate States has elevated its Defense Condition from Three to Two. This is the highest peacetime state possible for military deployments, next to all-out war which is classified under DEFCON one. Under DEFCON two, the nation has entered a state of General Mobilization and all reservists are considered active duty with all active duty personnel on high alert readiness status. All branches of the military are to be fully utilized and the nation is now preparing for a possible all-out-war scenerio. DEFCON two also raises the alert readiness status of the nations nuclear deterrent force, from prepared to active and waiting. In the emergency press briefing, the President also announced that the Continuity of Government Readiness Condition System (or COGCON) status was raised by the Confederate Military from COGCON three to COGCON two, which further protects the line of continuity for the government of Anagonia.

"It has come to my attention through private military and intelligence briefings that information from our allies in the Soviet Socialist Republic of Yitanka has given us credible evidence and justification of a possible incident near the entrance to Kotzebue Sound, off the coast of Alaska in the Chukchi Sea to which has prompted the raise the national Defense Condition in preparation for possible hostilities. While I cannot, at this time, go into further detail I will state that we believe there is a justified and realized threat to Anagonian continuity and interests that warrant an elevated mobilization status to our armed forces. All able-bodied citizens should check in with their duty-call status if they have not already been summoned to active duty. Reservists are encouraged to make necessary preparations for your employer. Most reservists, if operating in a profession considered essential to the functioning of the economy, are encouraged to report their status for active-duty pay. I will be giving out more information when I am able. At this time, I encourage the nation to prepare for a possible war scenario."

Chief General Maximus Leddicus made his formal appearance as head of the Department of National Defense and Chief General of the Confederate States Armed Forces before the nation at the emergency press briefing following the announcement from President Canisilus. His appointment was only a few days prior to the briefing, following nearly over a year of heavy vetting on behalf of the Confederate Military and the Government as they sought to replace the vacancies left by the deaths of Chief General's Elliot Armstrong and Titus Bond. Chief General Leddicus, a natural-born Komodren citizen, is a veteran of both the Confederate States Army and Confederate States Marine Corps. Serving for well over fifty years, his appointment was hotly contested as the Military awaited Chief Admiral Dave Evan's acceptance of the position. Persistent refusals to both the Military and the Presidents requests for Chief Admiral Evan's appointment led to a final decision on Sunday evening for Chief General Leddicus to take the role.

The appointment of Chief General Leddicus to the status as highest non-human military official in the nation was joined by addition of the first Chinese-Anagonian as the second-highest official, that of Chief General Robert Chin. Chief General Chin is a thirty-year veteran of the Confederate States Air Force and was already established as the best possible candidate along with Chief General Leddicus, following the final refusal of Chief Admiral Evans to assume the role asked of him. Chief General Chin has assumed the role as head of the Council of the States, previously assumed by the now-deceased Chief General Titus Bond, and Chief Admiral Evans continues his role as head of the Confederate States Joint Department of Progress. Chief General Leddicus's role as Chief General of the Confederate States Armed Forces and head of the Department of National Defense was once led by the now-deceased Chief General Elliot Armstrong. In a separate press announcement on Sunday both Chief General Leddicus and Chin promised to do their utmost to honor their roles in memory of those who held them before their appointment.

Chief Admiral Evan's remains the nations third highest military official and sixth in the line of secession in the event of a crisis. Chief General Leddicus assumes the role as first in the line of military officials and third in the line of secession. Chief General Chin assumes the role as second in line of military officials and fourth in line of secession.

"As the President stated, the national defense condition has been raised to DEFCON two," Chief General Leddicus announced during the emergency press briefing earlier today. "I have also authorized the COGCON system to be raised to level two in preparation for a possible war scenario. I have consulted with my peers, both Chief Admiral Evans and Chief General Chin, on the appropriate measures to be undertaken during this time. We have determined that general mobilization is in order and that the Confederate Navy will begin further formations of permanent fleets, as appropriate, to extend our national influence where necessary. At this time I reemphasize what the President has stated in encouraging all citizens to make the appropriate preparations and to be on alert for your summons to active duty."




General of the Confederate States Military Police, General Esteban Duke, announced after the emergency press briefing on earlier today that his Military Policemen have reached the nation of Livonia. Several military transport aircraft have already begun landings at several of the nations prominent airfields, as well as military installations, and assets are being actively unloaded including ground transports, air assets and helicopters, and Light Armored Vehicles.

"The Military Police is working very closely with the Livonian Military Authority to ensure a proper, appropriate, and peaceful response to the crisis that is developing in their country. Our Military Police are being supplied with medical kits, humanitarian supplies, and other friendly essentials to hand out as appropriate to Livonian citizens. I have also authorized all Military Policemen to utilize non-lethal, non-permanent rounds to pacify aggressive protests where appropriate and if requested by the Livonian authorities. We are still actively unloading troops and supplies and as such are still in the beginning phases of our active deployment into their country."

It is unclear whether the raise of the Defense Condition today was prompted by the developing crisis in Livonia or other issues, as described by the President. Military analysts from various news sources have speculated that there is something else developing on the world stage that is, at present, still clandestine possibly to avoid an all-out war.


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Postby Trans-Uralia » Wed Oct 19, 2022 8:42 am

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Ministry of Defense of the Trans-Uralian Federation

P. Minevropol, D. 43, Svoborisk, 132512


"19" October, 2022 Г.
No. 4/K


The Ministry of Defense of the Trans-Uralian Federation and the Federal Assembly has ordered for

complete general mobilization of the Armed Forces of the Trans-Uralian Federation. Drafting for

2,000,000 civilians across the Federation is required to meet the national defense quota.

The Ministry of the Interior of the Trans-Uralian Federation has granted non-human civilians

to enlist and be drafted into the Trans-Uralian Federation's Armed Forces.
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Postby Ukcross » Wed Oct 19, 2022 9:32 am

OOC: Anyone currently in control of cape verde?
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Postby Ukcross » Wed Oct 19, 2022 10:07 am

The large amounts of Ukcrossians from Libya flood into the cities and Rural towns. The Towns are mostly unaffected but cities, already packed, have roads clogged and buildings packed. The Ukcrossian government orders soldiers to clear out the Libyan Ukcrossians and send them to the countryside. This action fuels resentment and riots and as has happened many times before the Ukcrossian guard fires upon the crowds with tear gas and rubber bullets, then moves in to arrest the rioters. After a week of Riots and unrest the resistance is mostly stamped out. The 2nd Home Guard Battalion is moved to guard all the towns with Libyan Ukcrossians. The situation gets worse when a group of 20 Libyan Ukcrossians attempt to hijack a Military jeep and are fired upon.

The Ukcrossian government orders the construction of multiple naval forts and fortifications along the coast, and the reserves are mobilized, adding over 900,000 to the 1,200,000 active soldiers, though around 600,000 of the active soldiers are still coming back from Libya.
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Postby Yitanka » Wed Oct 19, 2022 10:39 am

Yitanka wrote:
Mitheldalond wrote:OPERATION SEAWOLF

Kotzebue Sound, Alaska [map]
Asset Codename 'USS Seawolf':

The final weapon swam out of the attack submarine's torpedo tube, and the 'USS Seawolf' began to slowly turn toward the west, away from the Sound, while still directing the wire-guided mine to its intended location. She had just finished laying a field of 24 Mk67 Submarine-Launched Mobile Mines across the entrance to the Sound, concentrated along the route Uralian supply ships and warships had been following into and out of the area. The mines would lie quietly on the bottom until a Uralian ship came by to set them off, waiting for weeks if need be. Most of Kotzebue Sound was less than 50 ft deep, and the shallow depth would make the mines especially effective.

With the last mine in place, 'USS Seawolf' headed back out to sea at a silent 10 knots. About half an hour later, as she made her way into deeper water, her sonar systems picked up the sound of a Uralian transport ship about 20,000 yd (~18 km) away, heading for Kotzebue Sound along the course 'USS Seawolf' had just finished mining. This wasn't unexpected; naval intelligence had provided the ship's itinerary and time of departure, and 'Seawolf' had been dispatched to mine the Sound before its arrival.

Kotzebue Sound, Alaska
MS Hachiwa


It was a boringly average day for the crew of the MS Hachiwa. A civilian icebreaker freighter slowly making its way to Alaska loaded with an assortment of ores and other such resources. Her captain, Masu Moro, had only been in command of a vessel for a little over a year and it was definitely not anything like he thought it would be. With such a routine trip being carried out, Captain Moro was on the verge of dozing off.

"Could be worse, Masu," the captain's first mate and longtime friend, Ancho Shuchuachi, said as he watched Masu's head jerk back up to keep from nodding off. "Could have been one of those poor bastards on the Safugyu when it blew up outside of Dejanca."

"Heh, yeah...I guess your r-"

BOOM

The Hachiwa trembled as the middle of the ship blew outwards, then buckled and collapsed, splitting the vessel in two. Now wide awake, Captain Moro immediately moved to sound the alarm to abandon ship, but with no part of the ship's electrical systems intact the PA system had been rendered completely useless. Rushing out of the bridge, the captain grabbed a hold of the bell just beyond the door and rang it as hard and loud as her could.

"Abandon ship!"

With such a sizeable portion of the ship missing, the sinking was progressing rapidly. What little crew that had not died or been knocked unconscious from the blast initially went to look for the lifeboats. But seeing as how they, too, were destroyed, no other option existed except to brave the fractured ice and frozen waters of the Arctic.

All were dead within the hour



Bering Strait
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Detecting the explosion on passive sonar and confirming the Hachiwa's destruction electronically, the 4 Suyifu-class attack subs patrolling the strait were dispatched to sweep the area and locate the cause of the explosion. As they approached Kotzebue Sound, they began scanning the area with active sonar.

When the ping from the Mitheldalondian sub was returned, all four of the Suyifu-class subs were able to positively identify its class. Unaware of whether or not it had been the cause of the Hachiwa's demise (and not wanting to potentially start a war), the lead sub pinged the USS Seawolf with its sonar to convey a message in International Morse code demanding the sub surface immediately.

(OOC: The loss of the MS Hachiwa has been voided, as have all events dependent on it. After much deliberation, I've decided that I will not be accepting the events that have transpired. Any further attempt to provoke war or act in aggression from Mitheldalond will be summarily ignored.)
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Postby Yitanka » Wed Oct 19, 2022 10:52 am

Kotzebue Sound, Alaska
MS Hachiwa


It was a boringly average day for the crew of the MS Hachiwa. A civilian icebreaker freighter slowly making its way to Alaska loaded with an assortment of ores and other such resources. Her captain, Masu Moro, had only been in command of a vessel for a little over a year and it was definitely not anything like he thought it would be. With such a routine trip being carried out, Captain Moro was on the verge of dozing off.

"Could be worse, Masu," the captain's first mate and longtime friend, Ancho Shuchuachi, said as he watched Masu's head jerk back up to keep from nodding off. "Could have been one of those poor bastards on the Safugyu when it blew up outside of Dejanca."

"Heh, yeah...I guess your r-"

BOOM

The Hachiwa trembled as the middle of the ship blew outwards, then buckled and collapsed, splitting the vessel in two. Now wide awake, Captain Moro immediately moved to sound the alarm to abandon ship, but with no part of the ship's electrical systems intact the PA system had been rendered completely useless. Rushing out of the bridge, the captain grabbed a hold of the bell just beyond the door and rang it as hard and loud as her could.

"Abandon ship!"

With such a sizeable portion of the ship missing, the sinking was progressing rapidly. What little crew that had not died or been knocked unconscious from the blast initially went to look for the lifeboats. But seeing as how they, too, were destroyed, no other option existed except to brave the fractured ice and frozen waters of the Arctic.

All were dead within the hour



Bering Strait
Yitankan Naval Patrol Group


Detecting the explosion on passive sonar and confirming the Hachiwa's destruction electronically, the 4 Suyifu-class attack subs patrolling the strait were dispatched to sweep the area and locate the cause of the explosion. As they approached Kotzebue Sound, they began scanning the area with active sonar.

Nothing was found.

In the following days, the Yitankan Navy would comb the area, searching for whatever might have caused the Hachiwa to explode. In the meantime, Yitankan news articles ran highly speculative stories about an attack on Yitankan shipping by one of the nation's foreign enemies. But as the investigation came to an end, the cause became evident: The Hachiwa had been smuggling weapons and large amount of ammunition out of the country. And due to improper storage and complacency about procedure, a normally harmless electrical fire had caused a catastrophic detonation in the cargo hold of the ship.

Yitankan news outlets wouldn't relay the whole story to the public, of course. They'd simply discredit the idea that it was a deliberate attack, offer some vague possibilities, then act as if nothing had happened. Of course, the full report of the investigation was sent to Yitanka's allies, some of whom had begun preparations for war, along with a profuse apology and a note of gratitude for the eagerness with which Yitanka's allies were willing to come to its defense.
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Postby Mitheldalond » Wed Oct 19, 2022 12:15 pm

Trans-Uralia wrote:
Mitheldalond wrote:
OOC for Yitanka: The mines are specifically looking for the acoustic (or some other) signature of Uralian transports. They shouldn't go off on just any ship.

OPERATION SEAWOLF

Near the Mouth of the Strait of Juan de Fuca, Washington
Asset Codename 'USS Carter':


Even as 'USS Seawolf' was heading back out to sea, another attack submarine, 'USS Carter', was finishing a mining operation of her own. Naval intelligence had provided advance notice of the Gonswanzan evacuation, and now it was time to make the barbaric invaders suffer.

The Strait of Juan de Fuca was a narrow, 11 mile wide channel that provided the only connection between the Pacific Ocean and several major cities, including Seattle and Vancouver, as well as the major naval base and shipyard at Puget Sound. Any Gonswanzan forces, vehicles, and equipment to be evacuated in the Washington/Vancouver/North Oregon area would almost certainly be funneled into this area as it provided the most extensive port and airport facilities. Which meant that any ships the Gonswanzans sent for the withdrawal would have to traverse the Strait of Juan de Fuca on the way in, and again on the way out.

The Strait was likely guarded, but 'USS Carter' had already circumvented the outer layer of Gonswanzan patrols - not an especially difficult task for one of the most advanced and stealthiest submarines in the world, and with the SLMM, she didn't even have to get close to lay mines in the Strait. And so she parked herself quietly on the seafloor about 10 miles from the mouth of the Strait next to some large mound - likely some rocks or maybe a shipwreck even - that would confuse active sonar returns (she made no sound audible to passive sonar) and make her harder to identify as a submarine.

Then she deployed her mines: 40 Mk 67 Mobile Mines, each of which swam quietly from her tubes and settled in their appointed position on the bottom of the Strait. With 40 mines spread over only 11 miles, there would be no way for a ship to avoid passing within range of at least one of them. The mines were set to target Gonswanzan transport ships and any warships typically used to transport troops or supplies, and were to ignore other warships. This was safe enough, since the current situation in North America meant that there was no friendly or neutral shipping in the area. Each one was fuzed to go off when a certain number of transports had passed overhead, anywhere from 2 to 5. This meant that at least some of the ships would survive the trip into the Strait, when they were empty, only to be destroyed on their way back out, when they would be loaded with troops and equipment.


OOC: Even if you go for Juan de fuca, you still have to deal with a submarine battle

OOC: Different submarine. "Seawolf" is still up north in Alaska. Both operations were supposed to be in the same post, but I had to leave before the Gonswanzan one was finished.

Just to provide some background information, neither "Seawolf" nor "Carter" are the subs' actual names. Operation Seawolf is a covert operation to directly combat the Uralian invasion of America (that one was going too far for Mitheldalond to tolerate :p ), and to punish Gonswanza for their... actions... in the US, without provoking a war that neither side particularly wants (at least, I assume you don't want war). The operations are carefully designed to leave no evidence of Mitheldalondian involvement by avoiding using any proprietary technology. The two operations so far were designed to look like they were carried out by the US itself, since nobody could blame them for defending what's left of their own territory. The mines used are US weapons from the 1950s that are still in service with the US Navy; they've been retired from Mitheldalondian service for some time and replaced by a more modern mine. The submarines are disguised to look sound like American Seawolf-class [alright, Los Angeles-class works too lol] boats (the real Seawolves escaped destruction and have been secretly receiving support from Mitheldalond IC), which they can do because of (highly classified / SIC) technology that allows them to simulate the passive sonar signature of other submarines. Basically, anyone looking into either incident (including your and Yitanka's submarines) would see American submarines and American weapons being used in American territorial waters.

The goal IC is to cause enough damage, in conjunction with American resistance groups, to get Uralia to decide invading the US might not be worth the effort, with hopefully the end result of getting you to pull your forces out, or at least be more willing to negotiate on the matter. The goal OOC is to have fun and cooperate to tell an interesting story. :)

And don't worry, I'll deal with the sub battle. I'm already working on the post, but it's on my computer at home, so you'll have to wait until tonight. :D

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Mitheldalond wrote:-snip-

OOC: Uralia and Yitanka are both ex-Soviet states and use ex-Soviet ships. There is very major overlap in the ships we use, and your mines 100% can't see what flag we're flying. My ships would set them off the same as Uralia's ships would.

Also, could you stop godmodding for, like, 5 seconds? You can't control Uralia's ships and say one is approaching, you can't control Gonswanza's ships and handwave avoiding them all. Literally stop. It makes you look like you're not interested in playing a fair game.

OOC: Fair enough about your ships setting off the mines, but I wasn't actually complaining about your ship being sunk. I was just trying to make it clear that Mitheldalond the US isn't just recklessly endangering civilian traffic with indiscriminate minefields.

Uralia said he was sending naval forces to Alaska (yes, I saw your OOC post about that, but it still seems fair to have at least one ship coming in; probably bringing supplies that can't be economically transported by air in significant numbers, like tanks. :p). I'm not controlling his ships, I'm just picking one of them to attack.

And I can handwave a submarine sneaking past a few outer coastal patrols. The fact that submarines are good at doing things without being noticed is literally the only reason they even exist. I couldn't sneak an aircraft carrier through for example, and I couldn't sneak the sub past ships guarding the actual entrance to the Strait, but sneaking one to within ten miles of it when they aren't expecting the sub to be there should be no problem.

Yitanka wrote:(OOC: The loss of the MS Hachiwa has been voided, as have all events dependent on it. After much deliberation, I've decided that I will not be accepting the events that have transpired. Any further attempt to provoke war or act in aggression from Mitheldalond will be summarily ignored.)

OOC: works for me, though I was kind of a little bit looking forward to seeing how you both handled the confusion of six unidentified (at first) and potentially hostile submarines, one of them already firing torpedoes, all popping up in the same area at once. The friendly fire potential doesn't get much higher than that. :twisted: :lol2:

Also, just a friendly FYI: the Kotzebue Sound is only about 50-60 feet deep where I mined it, and the icebreaker cargo ship I found is 169 ft tall, so even sunk there should still be a lot of ship above the water if you wanted your dudes to survive. :)
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Postby Gonswanza » Wed Oct 19, 2022 1:03 pm

As the Gonswanzan retreat steadily in the US, with the infected surging around and threatening to cross the Mississippi via bridges, a new offensive is on the way. A massed mobilization of naval assets and air assets, with a horrific black shadow taking flight from airfields in Gonswanza as TU-22M3s fly out from Taiwan, ready to deliver a heavy payload of Kh-15s, against Chinese coastal and air defenses. Along with those, TU-160s flying out from Taiwan were also due to carry out a strike using Kh-101s, to further destroy coastal and air defenses, along with wreaking havoc on the ground. A great operation, though as the aircraft move for their targets, Chinese communications satellites were also knocked offline, given that information on their formations and orbits were gathered prior to the surprise strike.

The Gonswanzan navy is still racing across the Pacific, however, carrying enough aircraft and munitions to hammer down the coast and claim land that is "rightfully" Gonswanzan.
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Postby New Aeyariss » Wed Oct 19, 2022 1:19 pm

The submarines are disguised to look sound like American Seawolf-class boats (the real Seawolves escaped destruction and have been secretly receiving support from Mitheldalond IC), which they can do because of (highly classified / SIC) technology that allows them to simulate the passive sonar signature of other submarines. Basically, anyone looking into either incident (including your and Yitanka's submarines) would see American submarines and American weapons being used in American territorial waters.


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Postby Nuxipal » Wed Oct 19, 2022 1:43 pm

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With the two legions of the Mobile infantry pushing through the western most parts of China proper now, the first non-volunteer unit entered the fray. Mounted atop the great legworms that bore them across the Uzbek landscape before. The large, muscular humanoids descended from the highlands towards Chengdu. To the North, the invasion of Gansu was underway, while in the south, the legion of Mobile Infantry there were pushing into Guizhou.

The fighting would get more intense as they pushed into the weakened Chinese state, but with the Chinese State fighting on multiple fronts and even this assault being waged across a wide front was taxing on the defenders as they couldn't simply create a defense line and wait without being surrounded by the Legions and decimated by artillery fire from beyond their own range. Reports of Chinese State envoys to the Shah were rampant as they were attempting to appease the man's ambition.

Despite these negotiations, it seemed that the attacks weren't interested in securing the territories beyond a certain point and simply to put pressure onto the Chinese State military for the benefit of other actors within the conflict.
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It is also becoming increasingly difficult in Groot Dietsland to find a general practitioner for people who are new to this country.

According to HKN (GP organization Kop van Noord-Holland), this problem is less of a problem in Groot Dietsland than elsewhere in the Noordkop. But the Republic of Groot Dietsland thinks otherwise.

From the Palace of Government, press officer Florentine de Maar announces that there is even a threat of a patient stop at general practitioners in the country. “Just like in the rest of the country, we are dealing with too few GPs. For our country, this means that it is very difficult for new residents to register with a general practitioner.

Help

New residents are provided by the country with information about which general practitioners they can approach. “But given the problem, it is difficult to estimate the chance of success. We notice that sometimes it still works, but also regularly not'', acknowledges De Maar.

The advice that Den Helder currently gives to newcomers with a GP question is to be 'perseverant'. Call a number of GPs in your area. And if you urgently need general practitioner care, visit any general practitioner in your area or visit the general practitioner after office hours.

Refugees

In the case of refugees, a separate arrangement applies. This means that there is separate funding for the care providers who provide care to refugees. However, this regulation does not provide that refugees are registered with priority at a general practice.

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Lukasz Ostrow wins elections!

Earlier today the Livonian parliament announced that the Federalist Party has won across the board in Livonia, having promised to rebuild Livonia from the Dworak administration's final days. Although he has announced he has little intent to stop the draft many protesters have begun to retreat from Parliament and around 2:36 PM the final sweep of the building confirmed it was safe. The nation quietly awaits the next moves of the new Prime Minister and his administration. Although some violent protests are still ongoing in some regions, the nation has had its first relatively peaceful night since the first anti-war protest.
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Postby Anagonia » Wed Oct 19, 2022 4:08 pm

CRISIS IN LIVONIA: MILITARY POLICE BRING ORDER?


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Lieutenant Colonel Paris Rice of Templar Division and Lieutenant Colonel Douglas Carver of Stormtrooper Division were both visible in news reels earlier this evening from the unfolding situation in Livonia. Walking alongside a M2109 Light Logistics Vehicle, Lt. Colonel Rice was the first visible command authority figure from Anagonia. Behind her were several Military Policemen, all reservists of the Templar Division of the Confederate States Military Police. The division conducted what was later clarified by General of the Confederate States Military Police, General Esteban Duke, as a "routine patrol". Another news reel, taken a few cities away from where the Templar Division was, showed Lt. Colonel Carver and his Stromtrooper Division as they rode in LUV-80 Light Utility Vehicles on their patrol. Visible boots where on the ground in each reel, comprised mainly of squad formations.

Overhead in a few shots were OH-58F Kiowa Warrior Helicopters in formations of two or three with visible Military Policemen along the side as they flew low and on patrol. A few of the OH-58F's in the reels could be seen chasing vehicles on the ground for routine stops or supporting ground convoys of LUV-80's.

"As of right now," Lt. Colonel Rice said as she was interviewed by a reporter from a Livonian News Network later broadcasted to Anagonian National News, "The situation in Livonia is quiet and under control. We are actively handing out meal and water packets to citizens who request it and are supporting local civil protection authorities in their nightly rounds. Please continue to cooperate with the imposed curfew for the safety of yourselves and my Military Policemen. Thank you."

Most of the other news reel pieces featuring the Confederate States Military Police in Livonia were either snippets for local news pieces or brief glimpses at Military Policemen handing out water, food, or aid packets. The situation remains still in development and is being actively monitored by the Confederate States Military.


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GOVERNMENT CONDEMNS BANNING OF ANGELAN DIASPORIC PARTY IN CONCORDIA

The Angelan Government declared its readiness to recall its delegation to Concordia following the banning of a party largely seen as being an Angelan-Concordian and Sarkic-traditionalist organization.

The Social Unity Democratic Party (SUDP) was determined to be a "subversive" organization by a Concordian judge early Wednesday, which would put the party in danger of being stripped of its official status, assets, and organizational network by the Election Authority. While Concordian President Albrant Del Kor and his government applauded this move, Angelan-Concordian activists say that this ruling was politically motivated by anti-Angelan sentiment.

A spokesperson for Prime Minister Delmaré's office stated that the Government was in the process of appealing the decision directly to the Concordian government. "We will not abandon our diasporic sisters and brothers to the whims of political opportunism and scapegoating. [The SUDP] was a primary vehicle for the promotion of Angelan-Concordian voices within the halls of power of a state that has sidelined and persecuted them for far too long."

President Del Kor defended the court's decision in a brief statement. "Reliable sources from within our intelligence agencies found undeniable links to Sarkic fundamentalist and far-right organizations such as the Angelus-based Adytite Renaissance Movement, which lest we forget backs the Delmaré government. Such threats to our domestic security and political integrity will and should not be tolerated."

Diasporic Angelan-Concordians make up approximately 7% of the country's population, and have long been the subject of pogroms and persecution carried out by Concordian authorities and nationalists throughout the centuries. From 1994-2013, a low-level insurgency led by the SUDP predecessor organization, the Angelan Democratic Liberation Army, raged in northern Concordia.
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Postby Mitheldalond » Wed Oct 19, 2022 4:47 pm

New Aeyariss wrote:
The submarines are disguised to look sound like American Seawolf-class boats (the real Seawolves escaped destruction and have been secretly receiving support from Mitheldalond IC), which they can do because of (highly classified / SIC) technology that allows them to simulate the passive sonar signature of other submarines. Basically, anyone looking into either incident (including your and Yitanka's submarines) would see American submarines and American weapons being used in American territorial waters.


Ooc: Please refer to telegrams for an explaination of why such a technology is impossible to be fielded today.

It literally works exactly the same way as noise canceling headphones. A series of microphones/hydrophones around the boat detect noise coming from inside the ship or from the interaction of the hull with the water, and speakers around the boat transmit the correct waveform to cancel that sound out. The speakers can do this while playing other sound recordings as well, also exactly like noise canceling headphones, which means they can suppress the noise of your own sub while playing a recording of another sub at the same time. It won't be 100% perfect, but that doesn't matter much since there's a practically infinite number of things that can distort or reduce the quality of a sonar recording at all times, especially when you're listening for something as quiet as a submarine. Something that sounds mostly but not exactly like a Seawolf is probably still going classified as a Seawolf because that's the closest match you have.

You can also make sound recordings of things like moving the control planes, opening a torpedo tube, blowing ballast, etc. Sudden sounds like this would normally be much harder to cancel out because you'd essentially have to know about them beforehand in order to play the canceling sound at the right time. Fortunately, when it comes to things your submarine is doing, you do know about them before hand, so this job becomes much easier. This all substantially reduces the amount of noise that actually gets out of the submarine into the water, making it significantly harder to detect on passive sonar (i.e. just listening with your ears).

Things like enemy active sonar pings (shouting into the water and listening for the echo) are much harder to deal with, since they are sudden sounds you don't know about in advance. This is the kind of thing your $100 noise canceling headphones can't do. But if you were to throw say, a billion dollars worth of technology, computing, and processing power at them, combine that with intelligence information on enemy sonar systems, and factor in the information about what ships are in your area provided by your sub's own passive sonar, then the problem becomes difficult rather than impossible.

Given all this information and a fast system reaction time, you could make it substantially harder for an opponent to get a good active sonar return off your sub. The first ping would be the hardest since you won't know it's coming or exactly what sonar system it is at first, but you could probably cancel out at least part of the ping (a sonar "ping" can actually last a few seconds, plenty of time for a modern computer to calculate what it is and how to cancel it, especially if you narrow down the options by telling it what ships/sonars are in the area). It will get better at canceling them out with each successive ping, as the computer is getting more and more data to analyze the pattern of the pings and the time between them. Of course, you could counter this by changing the pattern or timing of the pings. That's why IC the mere existence of the technology is so classified: if the enemy doesn't know your sub has this capability, they won't know to change the ping pattern. This also works, though likely not as well at first, against sonar systems you don't have information on. Oversimplified, the hydrophones and passive sonar on the sub record the unknown ping and can play it back later.

A possible issue is that the speakers are likely less powerful than the main sonar of a submarine. Depending on how far away the enemy sub is, and how loudly they're pinging (too loud can cause problems with sound bouncing off the seafloor and messing up the readings of the returning ping, among other issues), the speakers might not be loud enough to cancel out the ping entirely. This is fine: no system that works ever works perfectly all the time, and reducing the volume of the return ping even slightly still helps make it harder to detect and interpret.

As a final note, noise canceling technology is so perfectly suited to this kind of role that I'm actually almost certain that, like GPS, it was originally invented for the military, and only made its way into civilian hands decades later.

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Postby New Aeyariss » Wed Oct 19, 2022 5:30 pm

Mith I am sorry but it looks like points I made on TG were not even considered.

1) The whole situation is completely different from noise cancelling headphones. Headphones neutralise noise coming from one direction.

Instead here you have to stop noise from radiating outwards.

2) No, it is not going to be 100% perfect. Instead it is going to create even more noise that will make your submarine easy to detect.

The ability to cancel noise relies on anti noise interacting with soundwaves at 180*. In such a system gaps - which would be invebtable - would be your last problem. You won't be able to angle all sound waves perfectly - resulting in increase of noise levels due to waves interacting at different angels.

3) I am glad you have noticed the of the speakers lacking the same power as a sonar: but that does not answer other issues.

For example your system relies on sub having cancel it's own noise while having to use the very same system to broadcast other noise.

I won't even talk about how such a system will have to consume a lot of power, leading to more powerful generator, which in turn creates more noise - nullifying the effect.

In short - feel free to use such a system but expect people to use it's flaws against you.
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OPERATION SEAWOLF

Kotzebue Sound, Alaska [map]
Asset Codename 'USS Seawolf':

The final weapon swam out of the attack submarine's torpedo tube, and the 'USS Seawolf' began to slowly turn toward the west, away from the Sound, while still directing the wire-guided mine to its intended location. She had just finished laying a field of 24 Mk67 Submarine-Launched Mobile Mines across the entrance to the Sound, concentrated along the route Uralian supply ships and warships had been following into and out of the area. The mines would lie quietly on the bottom until a Uralian ship came by to set them off, waiting for weeks if need be. Most of Kotzebue Sound was less than 50 ft deep, and the shallow depth would make the mines especially effective.

With the last mine in place, 'USS Seawolf' headed back out to sea at a silent 10 knots. About half an hour later, as she made her way into deeper water, her sonar systems picked up the sound of a Uralian transport ship about 20,000 yd (~18 km) away, heading for Kotzebue Sound along the course 'USS Seawolf' had just finished mining. This wasn't unexpected; naval intelligence had provided the ship's itinerary and time of departure, and 'Seawolf' had been dispatched to mine the Sound before its arrival.


OOC: You do realise the Kotzebue sound freezes in mid-october, to the point where I have no reason to use ships in an icy sea anymore. The only sea traffic is from commercial or fishing vessels at this time of year. Air is the only efficient method of transporting resources.

OOC: Fair enough, but you did specify that you were sending naval forces, so it also seems fair to assume that at least one ship would be there (or two if it needs help from an ice breaker, which you presumably have an ample supply of). That also works with the narrative of the sub being sent after this one specific ship. And there are some things you can't easily or economically transport in any significant quantity by air; tanks for instance. It would take dozens of strategic air lifters to bring even a single squadron of tanks over; sending them on a ship is far more practical and economical.

I'm also curious (actually curious, not trying to imply you're doing anything wrong) why you're using the Amur-class. Isn't it just a downgraded export version of the Lada? Surely as Russia you should be able to field the full Lada version?

Oh, and one final thing just to bear in mind for the sake of realism: your ethnic cleansing of Alaska shouldn't be easy to pull off. The areas you've been invading so far (Ukraine, the Baltic, China) aren't really known for allowing much civilian ownership of guns. The US very much is known for that, and there are plenty of people who are borderline fanatical about it. Alaska is one of those states where most people actually do own a gun, especially in the more remote areas (there are polar bears up there after all). It will likely be a tougher nut to crack as far as civilian resistance goes, especially since they've presumably been fighting a guerrilla war against Gonswanza for some time now, and a lot of the resistance fighters are probably hardened veterans at this point. :)


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Bering Strait

Amur-class submarine "K-2315" had been assigned on regular patrol of the Bering Strait since the occupation of Alaska.
Orders were to sink any submarine on sight as per a previous internal order.

The Sub was moving quietly at roughly 6 knots, running on battery power, towards the south.
Patrol was uneventful as usual until the sonar operator had detected an initial contact through
passive sonar. A single ping had confirmed the presence of another submarine moving south at
10 Knots. Following direct protocol, Capt. Ivan Vakhromeyev gave the order to load torpedoes
into tubes one and two. The tubes were filled with water in preparation of firing.

"Torpedoes loaded!" yelled one of the crewmen.

The Sub had adjusted course slightly for the torpedoes to make a direct hit into the portside
of this submarine. The Captain knew they were running silently, and for any communication
to be made by this submarine, it would have to surface.

"Fire tube one." Said the Captain.

"FIRE TUBE ONE!" A crewman yelled

The first torpedo was fired, shooting through the icy waters of the Bering strait.

The Captain's watch ticked and ticked as the seconds went by, the crew remained
silent, waiting for the sound of a hit.

A boom sounded from the depths. A hit. The captain waited for any signs
for the enemy submarine to continue operations.

OPERATION SEAWOLF

South of Kotzebue Sound, Alaska
Asset Codename 'USS Seawolf':


The Uinen-class submarine operating under the codename 'USS Seawolf' had proceeded south after completing her minelaying mission. This might have seemed like an odd choice to an observer, if there had been anyone to observe it. The Uralian Pacific Fleet's main bases were all well to the south of the Bering Strait, and heading south would put "Seawolf" right in the path of any Uralian ships transiting between their bases and Kotzebue Sound - hardly a sensible direction for a submarine to go if it wished to avoid detection.

But that was the thing. "Seawolf" wasn't trying to avoid detection; not yet anyway. Quite the opposite in fact: it was an important part of her mission to make sure some Uralian ship spotted a US submarine, or what appeared to be one, near where the minefield had suddenly appeared. An American submarine of a class not operated by Mitheldalond, plus American mines of a type not used by Mitheldalond, all found in American waters would be unlikely to point any suspicions toward Mitheldalond. And if it did, Mitheldalond could quite convincingly deny any such allegations.

And so "Seawolf" was in fact quite pleased to find a Uralian submarine so quickly. She approached the Uralian boat with her highly classified active cancelation systems set to play an incredibly detailed recording of a Los Angeles-class submarine. The two boats drew closer and closer until "Seawolf's" crew was certain the Uralian must have heard them by now. "Seawolf" wasn't exactly trying to be quiet after all, but Russian sonar systems had always been mediocre (OOC: IRL).

Suddenly, when the two subs had nearly drawn abeam of each other, the Uralian boat sent out an active ping. The wave of sound washed over "Seawolf's" semi-angular hull, and much of it was deflected off away from the Uralian boat, or absorbed by the anechoic (sound-absorbing) tiles covering "Seawolf's" hull, much like radar would have done when hitting a stealth aircraft. But at this close range, more than enough sound made it back to the Uralian for her to detect the other boat.

Several seconds later, the roar of a launch transient came from the Uralian sub, and a torpedo shot out into the water. Instantly, "Seawolf" dropped a noisemaker and maneuvered to evade, but the torpedo sailed straight past her, seemingly oblivious to both the noisemaker and the enemy sub. Evidently the combination of stealth features on the Uinen-class boats had deceived the Uralians into believing the other sub was much further away than she actually was. The torpedo was wire guided, so ordinarily the Uralians would have been able to simply turn it around again once they realized their initial mistake, but "Seawolf" didn't plan to give them that chance. She wouldn't sink the Uralian boat; it had to survive to report engaging an American sub to Uralian brass, but she had no intention of hanging around to give them a second shot at her either.

"Seawolf" quickly fired off a MOSS decoy, set to simulate the sound of a Los Angeles-class submarine. She then immediately switched her active noise cancellation systems into "stealth" mode and took off in a different direction. If the Uralian sub could hear her as the system came on, she would effectively vanish off their passive sonar. Which wasn't really a noteworthy event, since sonar contacts were dropped and reacquired all the time, especially during the noise of combat. But the noisemaker was between the two boats and the torpedo was still whirring away nearby. In all likelihood, the Uralian boat couldn't actually hear "Seawolf" at the instant she went silent; "Seawolf" herself had lost contact on the Uralian briefly, and her sonar systems were better than the Russian-built ones on the Uralian boat.

What the Uralian would find when she reacquired contact with the supposed Los Angeles-class boat was the MOSS launched by "Seawolf" heading along about the same course "Seawolf" had been at high speed, acting just like a submarine that had been caught off guard and was now desperately running for her life. Meanwhile, the real "Seawolf" was headed off in the opposite direction.

About an hour later, "Seawolf" heard a faint explosion far off in the distance. Apparently the Uralian torpedo had either run out of fuel, or had actually managed to hit the MOSS. By now though "Seawolf" was many miles away and slowly accelerating to 20 knots - her maximum speed for ultra-quiet running - as she dove deeper beneath the waves.
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