Strange New World (2022 Alt-Hist Geopolitical RP) - OOC

[Sonakion]

RESERVATION
NS Name: Sonakion
RP Name: United Holy Kingdom's of Hibernia and Scoti
Territory: Island of Ireland and Scotland.

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Reservation noted.

You might want to speak to Deblar about history since they are apping as England.

Yea, I plan to have Ireland and Scotland to be United fairly early on in history so we can work from there hopefully.

[Sao Nova Europa]

APPLICATION
WIP for Greater Cameroon

Interesting. Reservation noted.

[Ard alAkhua]

RESERVATION
NS Name: Ard alAkhua
RP Name: Caliphate of Arabia
Territory: All Arab Peninsula states, Iraq, Somaliland (northern part of Somalia), possibly most of Syria if it works in the RP

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Reverend Norv, would Syria joining with this Caliphate at some point work with your current alt-history you've written so far? If not, that is fine as well, just wondering.

[Theyra]

RESERVATION
NS Name: Theyra
RP Name: Kingdom of Vinland
Territory: Ontario, Quebec, Newfoundland and Labrador, Prince Edward Island

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[Sao Nova Europa]

RESERVATION
NS Name: Ard alAkhua
RP Name: Caliphate of Arabia
Territory: All Arab Peninsula states, Iraq, Somaliland (northern part of Somalia), possibly most of Syria if it works in the RP

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RESERVATION
NS Name: Theyra
RP Name: Kingdom of Vinland
Territory: Ontario, Quebec, Newfoundland and Labrador, Prince Edward Island

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Both reservations noted.

[Union Princes]

Here's my cursed USSR

APPLICATION
NS Name: Commonwealth of Union Princes
RP Name: Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic
Flag: the 1955 version
Capital: Moscow
Territory: 1941 Pre-Barbarossa borders and Tanna Tuuva
Population: 330 million

Official Language(s): Russian
Recognized Language(s): Ukrainian, Belorussian, Uzbek, Kazakh, Georgian, Azerbaijani, Lithuanian, Romanian, Latvian, Kyrgyz, Tajik, Armenian, Turkmen, Estonian
Ethnic Breakdown: 66% Russian, 2% Tatar, 33% others.
Religious Breakdown: Secular state (de jure)/State atheism (de facto)

Type of Government: Federal Marxist-Leninist One Party State under securocratic totalitarian dictatorship
Head of State: Premier Ivan Tertel
Head of Government: Premier Ivan Tertel
Legislature (the name of your national legislature): The Supreme Soviet
Legislative Houses (if your legislature is bicameral): Soviet of Nationalities (Upper), Soviet of the Republic (Lower)
Party in Power: Vsesoyuznaya Kommunisticheskaya Partiya - All-Union Communist Party/Bolsheviks
National Issues:

• Socialism in One Country: It is clear that our ideology is not well perceived by our neighbors. Despite our best intentions, it is clear that there are those who wish to be part of our communist utopia. Despite our money and power, our friends keep us at an arm's length.
• Glastnost and Perestroika: Our reputation on the international stage leaves much to be desired. Despite our promises of a worker's paradise, the blatant securocracy and the gulags would have our critics label us hypocrites and untrustworthy.
• The Blue Scare: Economic liberalism is one thing; political liberalism is another. After tasting the products created by the capitalist and democratic west, the people of Russia seem to want more. Although the NKVD has been working tirelessly to free loyal communists from counter-revolutionary taint, liberal agitation will remain present.

Public Goals: Combating global terrorism, pursuing economic profitability, seeking new allies, maintaining superpower status
Private Goals: Become the tech giant in the world, Russification of Central Asia and the Baltics, supply communist revolutionaries to destabilize rivals, the Space Race

GDP (nominal): $11 trillion
Currency: Ruble
Economic System: State Capitalism/Khozraschyot
Major Trade Partners: Eastern and Central Europe, Asia, South Asia, Africa
Major Exports: Crude petroleum and petroleum products, natural gas, grain, metals, wood, agricultural products, military weaponry and hardware, and a wide variety of manufactured goods
Major Imports: Smartphones, automobile parts/accessories, medications, cars, and computers
Defense Budget (USD): $400 billion
Alliance(s): Alt-United Nations, the Third International/Comintern

Military Branches (names of official Armed Forces Branches): Vooruzhennyye Sily-NKVD (lit. Armed Forces of the NKVD)/VS-NKVD

• Sukhoputnyye Voyska NKVD/Ground Forces of the NKVD
• Voyenno-morskoy flot NKVD (lit. Military Maritime Fleet of the NKVD)
• Voyenno-Vozdushnyye Sily NKVD (lit. Military Air Forces of the NKVD)
• Raketnye voyska strategicheskogo naznacheniya NKVD/ (lit. Strategic Rocket Forces of the NKVD)

Active Duty: 5.5 million active
Reserve Duty: 40 million reserves
Total Manpower: 45.5 million

Land Forces: 4,150,000 personnel/50k tanks, 50k APCs, 24k IFVS, 33k artillery guns, 9k SPGs
Naval Forces: 500,000 personnel/400 ships (1 aircraft carrier and 5 capitals)
Air Forces: 800,000 personnel/4,500 aircraft
Other Military Information:

• Largest nuclear arsenal: 7,200 ICBMS
• RVSN-NKVD Forces at 50,000 personnel
• Has an extensive chemical and biological weapons program such as XV nerve agent, Anthrax and Smallpox
• Women and homosexuals are allowed to openly volunteer in the armed forces
• Due to the emphasis on coordination and organization of military units, the SV-NKVD fights to move whereas its Western counterparts move to fight.
• Soviet Russia does allow foreign volunteers to enlist in the armed forces. Given that it is the birthplace of the Revolution, there is no shortage of Vanguardists that wish to take up Lenin's banner.
• Instead of the T-64s and onwards, the Soviets developed a different kind of MBT
• Due to the official practice of rotating active SV-NKVD soldiers between GULAG camp guard duty and combat duty, it is arguable that the entire armed forces of Russia can be classified as a criminal organization by the Humans Rights Council

History:
Back in the days of the 1920s and 1930s, the Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic was a nation to be admired, to be modeled after. Born from the corpse of the Tsardom after the catastrophic Great War, Soviet Russia was set up to be a new alternative to the corrupt and decadent capitalist west; where every worker and farmer was entitled to his own wealth rather than oppressed by the aristocracy. Vladimir Lenin was Karl Marx's messiah and he had set out with great vigor to make a communist utopia. Yet, old age and a failing body prevented him from making this vision true. After Lenin's death, a power struggle erupted between Joseph Stalin, Leon Trotsky, and Nikolai Bukharin.

Bukharin emerged victorious from the power struggle, exiling Stalin and Trotsky from the Bolshevik party, before continuing Lenin's New Economic Plan. However, the results were less than ideal: agriculture failed, forcing industrialization to be postponed. Forced collectivization had to be enacted to prevent further famines, ending the NEP, while the NKVD crushed uprisings mercilessly. When the Frist Five Year Plan failed to meet its quota, a new draft had to be organized in 1937; the lessons learned allowed for greater success in the rapid development of Russian heavy industry.

But then the Axis came with large parts of Western Russia that fell under the German jackboot. Moscow was under siege and although his government evacuated further east, Bukharin opted to stay behind to raise morale for the defenders. He would later end up being killed after the capital fell to German panzers. Director of the NKVD and Bukharin's Spymaster, Genrikh Yagoda, used the powers invested in him to regain control of the collapsing RSFSR and to hold the line against the Axis onslaught. A winter offensive of 1941-1942 liberated Moscow from the Germans, much to the relief of Soviets everywhere. With the Allies pushing from the West and South, Yagoda led Soviet Russia in a great war of attrition and maneuver as Russians bled for every mile liberating the lost territories.

After Operation Suslov broke the back of the Axis powers and sent the Red Army marching through Berlin, Yagoda had one thing on his mind: Punishment. According to the peace treaty signed between the victors and the vanquished, Russia's borders would be restored to their pre-war status, keeping Eastern Poland and Bessarabia firmly under the communist banner. Extensive reparations would be paid, as usual, but there was one caveat in the treaty: the 6 million German and Axis POWS and civilian captives would not be released. They would instead spend the rest of their tenure in the GULAGS, rebuilding the damages caused by the war. Even the Volga Germans weren't exempt; also found themselves placed in these labor camps.

High on his status as one of the major victors of the war, Yagoda finally turned his eyes inward; first seen when he combined his office of Premier with the powers of the General Secretary of the Soviet Union. A power move that alarmed his critics nationwide. Unfortunately, those critics didn't last long as Yagoda expanded the powers of the NKVD to omnipresent levels, taking over all military and civilian affairs. The generals and politicians that weren't purged and shot found themselves in the GULAGS. Within a decade, Yagoda, the Iron Hand of the Party, was virtually unimposed in all aspects of life and government.

But the weirdest, damnable thing he did despite his communist convictions, was declaring a "Transitional Approach to Economics." He stated that Soviet Russia was currently in a transitional phase between the market economy and authentic communism. By the mid-1960s, he had reduced state intervention in the economy, invite foreign investment, and opened up Special Economic Sectors with free markets principles. Revisionism? Hardly. Capitalist? It's still based on the NEP. Liberal? Most certainly. While the economic reforms were radical for Orthodox Marxists, political repression had never been more soul-crushing. Though, that didn't stop Yagoda from making some social reforms such as decriminalizing homosexuality, promoting gender equality, and modernizing society.

Once the homefront was stabilized, Moscow turned outwards and began fermenting communist movements worldwide. Though, Yagoda was restrained in giving away military and economic aid to what he saw as a bunch of rabble-rousers than true communists. Still, the few Marxist revolutionaries that won his respect were rewarded handsomely with more guns and money than they know what to do with. But as the 1970s rolled around, there was a shift in priorities due to the Cold War between the Communists and the Capitalists, with Yagoda overhauling the NKVD into a more efficient security force and intelligence service, making them the most feared institution in the entire known world.

On the topic of the Space Race, the Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic earned international prestige and renown for launching the first satellite, the first cosmonaut in space, the first female cosmonaut in space, and the first Moon Landing. Premier Yagoda and his successors often praised these scientific marvels as achievements of Khozraschyot in their propaganda, much to the envy and distress of the West. The worries were not without precedent given the reputation of the NKVD. Indeed, there were and currently are plans to use satellites to enable a greater scale of mass surveillance over the Soviet population and espionage over its rivals. Regardless, Soviet Russia have achieved the first milestones for all mankind even if it seems to have been technologically surpassed by the West.

By 2022, the RSFSR remains one of the strongest, wealthiest, and most intimidating global power in the modern age. The Yagodachina reforms saw the Soviet economy booming throughout the decades, competing well against the Capitalist West. Russia even saw the first millionaires and billionaires emerge due to the Special Economic Sectors, though even they weren't immune to being purged by the NKVD. But despite the overwhelming prosperity and high standards of living due to generous high-quality healthcare and education, it is to be believed without a doubt that the nation is one of the greatest human rights abusers in recent memory due to the continuation of the GULAG system. Although the population was estimated to be over 330 million, there have been reports and rumors that the GULAGs housed an additional 20 million undocumented prisoners serving as slave labor to the state. No doubt many of them, if not all, were political dissenters and other undesirables that other communist states and Moscow-aligned nations sought to get rid of. Although Moscow refuses to acknowledge the accusations of a massive human trafficking network across Eurasia and Africa, it is odd that many a third-world nation suffering from prison overpopulation would be so eager to hand the prisoners over to the NKVD for "rehabilitation" and that Soviet Russia is so eager to accept the chance to "reform and reeducate."

RP Example(s): https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=516483

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[Sao Nova Europa]

Skimming through it and it looks good. Will be reading it in greater detail tomorrow, but it will be accepted most likely.

Before accepting however I want to also wait a bit for the Three Nations (AKA Poland) and German apps, so we can work out how WWII unfolded in Eastern Europe, so we are all on the same page.

[Turkducken]

What I have to ask the Soviets, is what happened after Yagoda left office?

Who succeeded him?

What events marked his regime as different abroad and otherwise?

Did the NKVD become the entire military structure and not just a policing force?

[Theyra]

RESERVATION
NS Name: Ard alAkhua
RP Name: Caliphate of Arabia
Territory: All Arab Peninsula states, Iraq, Somaliland (northern part of Somalia), possibly most of Syria if it works in the RP

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RESERVATION
NS Name: Theyra
RP Name: Kingdom of Vinland
Territory: Ontario, Quebec, Newfoundland and Labrador, Prince Edward Island

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Both reservations noted.

Forgot to list it, but can I included Greenland in my reservation?

[Shohun]

RESERVATION
NS Name: Shohun
RP Name: Maha Bodhi Empire
Territory: IRL India, most of Pakistan, and Nepal

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[Dragos Bee]

What do you mean by Byzantines seizing Crimea in 2022? Is this a provocation for a world war?

Huh? No, I was thinking you seized Southern Crimea from my Byzies some time in your history. And we're plotting to take it back.

[Dragos Bee]

APPLICATION
NS Name: Dragos Bee
RP Name: Basilea ton Rhomanion

The app is good and will be accepted with two changes:

1) You should clarify with the Russian player the Crimean situation. From what I understand the Russians conquered Crimea from Byzantium instead of the Crimean Tatars about the same time as IRL (1783)?

2) You should limit the number of active duty troops closer to 500-600k men.

Other than that the app looks OK to me.

Double-post:

1.) Yes, although I would prefer it to be much later (World War II).

2.) Let me edit.

[Deblar]

APPLICATION
NS Name: Deblar
RP Name: Kingdom of England
Flag:

Capital: London
Territory: modern England + Wales
Population: 59,757,301

Official Language(s): English
Recognized Language(s): Welsh, Cornish, French
Ethnic Breakdown:

85.4% White
7.8% Asian
3.5% Black
2.3% Mixed
1.0% Other

Religious Breakdown:

59.4% Christianity
24.7% No religion
5.0% Islam
1.5% Hinduism
0.5% Buddhism
1.7% Other
7.2% Not stated

Type of Government: Federal Parliamentary Constitutional Monarchy
Head of State: King Charles III
Head of Government: Prime Minister Keir Starmer
Legislature: Parliament
Legislative Houses:
Chamber of Lords (Upper House)
Chamber of Commons (Lower House)
Party in Power: Labour Party
National Issues: Economic Stagnation, Rising irredentism and nationalism, Rising dissatisfaction with the monarchy after summer 2021 death of Elizabeth II
Public Goals: Further cooperation with Europe, Protecting and enforcing democracy worldwide, Make amends for past sins
Private Goals: none of note

GDP (nominal): 1.384 trillion
Currency: pound sterling
Economic System: mixed market capitalism
Major Trade Partners: Most of Europe, Columbia
Major Exports: pharmaceutical products, chemical products, textiles, automobiles
Major Imports: oil, foodstuffs, textiles
Defense Budget (USD): 3% of GDP; capped by the Treaty of Amsterdam
Alliance(s): UN (if there is one)

Military Branches (names of official Armed Forces Branches):
Royal Army, Royal Navy, Royal Air Force, Royal Marines

Active Duty:
125,000
Reserve Duty:
27,000
Total Manpower:
380,000

Land Forces:
125 Tanks, 2,000 Armored Vehicles, 45 SPA, 23 Towed Artillery, 4,200 Transport Vehicles

Naval Forces:
4 Destroyers, 10 Cruisers, 12 Frigates, 20 Corvettes, 6 Submarines, 45 Patrol Ships

Air Forces:
75 Fighters, 21 Trainers, 37 Helicopters, 16 Attack Helicopters

Other Military Information: Military weakened by the Treaty of Amsterdam that ended the Second World War

History:
- 1425: The Hundred Years' War concludes with an English victory, with the Kingdom being able to successfully take advantage of the Armagnac–Burgundian Civil War. The preservation of an alliance with the House of Burgundy prove to be a decisive factor in England's victory. After a few years, control over most of France is consolidated

- 1429: A Treaty of Union between England and France is ratified, and France is elevated to an equal status alongside England. The foundations are laid for the eventual creation of a dual monarchy in the style of OTL's Austria-Hungary

- 1430's onward: Respective English and French identities begin to develop; however, with the two areas being politically unified, these identities become closely linked and intertwined. By the 1460's, the two intertwined identities had made themselves present, which led to some issues with administration later on.

- 1454: After a brief crisis of succession, King Henry VI of England and Charles VII of France proclaim the dual monarchy, bringing an official start to the Anglo-French Empire. A disagreement over a common monarch leads to a civil conflict, and after 3 years of fighting, Edward IV would become the Emperor of the Anglo-French Empire after the death of Henry VI

- 1479: Anglo-French Empire is expelled from Ireland (will elaborate once I get more information from the Ireland/Scotland player)

- 1483: After the death of Edward IV and the mysterious murders of his heirs Edward V and Richard, Duke of York, Richard III. His death in 1486 marks the end of the Middle Ages in England and France, and he is succeeded by Henry VII, who is the first Emperor of the House of Tudor

-1501-1507: First failed attempt by the Anglo-French Empire to conquer Scotland. The humiliating defeat, caused by a severe underestimation of enemy forces by the military, is blamed on Henry VII, who gets usurped of the Emperorship by Henry VIII, his son and heir, in 1508. This started a brief civil conflict that ended in 1509 with a victory for Henry VIII, who is solidified as Emperor.

- 1511-1521: The Protestant Reformation reaches the Anglo-French Empire, resulting in a sharpening religious divide. While Protestantism became popular among the English and Irish, the French initially resisted the Reformation. A conflict arose as Henry VIII attempted to institute Protestantism across the Empire, which the French resisted. The war was rather inconclusive, and would end in 1521 as a stalemate. The religious division would persist for centuries.

- 1547: Edward VI takes the Imperial throne upon the death of Henry VIII. However, he would catch an illness and die in 1548, spending only a few months on the throne. A conflict of succession arose, and it became split between the English, who supported Elizabeth, and the French, who supported Mary. What resulted was the Anglo-French Civil War, which ended in 1561 with the victory of Elizabeth, who became Empress.

- 1585: Beginning of first war with Spain, which begins over Anglo-French support of a Dutch rebellion. War concludes in 1592 with a return to the antebellum status quo.

-1603: James VI becomes Emperor after Elizabeth I's death. Under his reign, exploration and colonization of the New World kicks off, with the Jamestown colony being established in Virginia in 1608. Over the course of the 1600's, colonization continues, primarily in New England (OTL 13 Colonies) and New France (Canada). Expeditions into the Caribbean also occur, which culminate in the conquest of Jamaica, which was previously a Spanish posession, in 1655.

- 1676: Second failed attempt to conquer Scotland, this time because the war was long, grueling, and expensive. Eventually, the Anglo-French Empire became unable to afford continuing the war effort, resulting in them suing for peace in 1681.

- 1753-1761: Second war with Spain, which ends in a Anglo-French victory. Florida and Spanish possessions in the Caribbean, including Cuba, Hispaniola, and Puerto Rico, are seized by the Anglo-French Empire. War saddles Anglo-France with debt, resulting in increased taxation on the North American colonies, which fuels dissent.

- 1775-1783: Colombian Revolution occurs, with the rebels having the support of Spain. Revolution eventually succeeds and Anglo-France is forced to recognize Columbia’s independence, while Florida and Cuba are returned to Spain. This defeat marks the beginning of the decline of the Anglo-French Empire

-1794: Inspired by the Columbian revolutionaries, many French people begin to call for a revolution of their own. Dissent skyrockets, and in 1794 a group of French military officers, led by a certain Napoleon Bonaparte, coup the French monarchy and declared a republic. The French royal family fled to England, who were quick to come to their aid. Finding themselves allies in Europe in monarchies who reacted harshly to the French Republic being declared, England would fight against these republicans in the French Revolution, also known as the Coalition Wars. The war would drag on for years, only ending in 1819 with the decisive military victories by the French at Calais and Normandy. After this, England was forced to sue for peace, and the Treaty of Paris would later be signed in 1820, ending the war along with the Anglo-French Empire. France would remain independent from English rule, eventually becoming a republic and, later, a Marxist-Jacobinist dictatorship (that’s what I’m calling it, if you don’t mind)

- Victorian Era: Despite an embarrassing defeat to France, England experienced relative prosperity later in the reign of William IV and druing the reign of Queen Victoria. In the Franco-Prussian War, England would ally with Prussia, and after the war would become formal allies with what eventually became the German Empire (assuming there still is one). This alliance would be rather fruitful for England, especially in terms of commerce. This, plus the effect of the Industrial Revolution, resulted in an economic boom. England would expand its colonial empire, securing control over much of India and most of what the UK got in Africa irl minus Nigeria, Ghana, Sierra Leone, the Gambia, Egypt, and North and South Rhodesia(which I’ll assume went to the French and, for the last two, Portugal). England found its own prestige to be mostly restored by the time Victoria died in 1901 and was replaced by King Edward VII.

- 1908: By 1908, tensions throughout Europe were elevated, and everyone, including England, was on edge. King Edward was on a visit to Carlisle, England, to commemorate the opening of a new university, when he would be shot and killed by a Scottish nationalist. England blamed his assassination on Scotland, and declared war; France, being allies with Scotland, declared war on England; Germany, being allies with England, declared war on France; Russia, being allies with France, declared war on Germany. As such, the First World War would begin. The war would drag on for years until 1916, when a combined allied force would encircle London and England sued for peace. The Treaty of Versailles would be signed, which stripped England of its colonial possessions, cut down the size of their military, and demanded that England pay 97 billion pounds in reparations. The monarchy would also be abolished, being replaced with a republican government. As such, the now crippled Kingdom of England was now the Commonwealth of England, and alongside Germany found itself the laughing stock of Europe.

- Interwar: After World War One, and during the interwar period, England attempted to pay off its debts, with little success due to economic stagnation. The Wall Street Crash (or equivalent) further crippled the economy, and fueled resentment among many. A few military officers, led by William Birdwood, were dissatisfied with the weak government of the Commonwealth, and sought to return England to her former glory. In 1932, these military officers would coup the government, installing a military junta. They immediately began rebuilding the English military, especially the navy, which violated the Treaty of Versailles. They would also rebuild their alliance with Germany, who were also aiming to regain their prestige under the Nazis(?). As Germany (did whatever they did around now, I’d have to check with the German player), Birdwood made frequent threats towards Hibernia and Scoti, saying that “the rightful English rule of the whole British Isles is long overdue .” France attempted to appease the two powers, though it did little to prevent the coming confrontation. In 1936, England would invade and occupy the Isle of Man, which was a dependency of Hibernia and Scoti. This spurred a diplomatic incident, which was resolved when France negotiated a deal to let England keep the Isle if they didn’t try any more invasions. This was broken within months, as a full scale invasion of Hibernia and Scoti would begin in March 1937. This would kickstart the Second World War

- WWII: (will work this out with everyone else later)

- Postwar & Cold War: As WW2 drew to a close, and the junta was overthrown, England once again found itself at the mercy of the allied powers. It was decided that England would pay reparations to Hibernia and Scoti, and would temporarily be occupied by a joint Columbian-French force. In 1948, the occupation ended, and England would now be at a crossroads. A new constitution would be adopted, and the monarchy, which had been in exile, would be restored. George VI would be crowned King of England, and was tasked with leading the nation the immediate postwar period. He would lead English efforts to rebuild, reconcile with the rest of the world, and prove England to be redeemable. He set the nation on a new path, and for this he was well loved by the populace. His death in 1962 sent shockwaves through the country, and his heir Princess Elizabeth would become Queen Elizabeth II. She left off right where her father had started, leading the nation through the rapidly intensifying Cold War. England remained fairly neutral, though leaned toward the capitalist West.

- Modern Day:
England moved into the 21st Century with a bright outlook, though it would not last for long. In 2008, with the global recession setting in, the English economy stagnated, and it had taken years for it to recover. While it has rebounded, political turbulence has overtaken the government. In the past 8 years alone, there have been 4 Prime Ministers, with the current Prime Minister, Keir Starmer, arising after a Labour Party vote on a new leader following the resignation of Jeremy Corbyn. To make matters even worse, in the summer of 2021, Queen Elizabeth, who had served for 69 years, passed away in her sleep. The country went into mourning, and her son, Charles, would become King. Now, in 2022, England faces a rapidly changing political landscape, and faces the possibility of all the progress made in the past 7 decades being undone by a rising far-right irredentist movement. Should this not be dealt with, the implications could spell disaster for the country, if not the world…

RP Example(s):
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[Reverend Norv]

RESERVATION
NS Name: Ard alAkhua
RP Name: Caliphate of Arabia
Territory: All Arab Peninsula states, Iraq, Somaliland (northern part of Somalia), possibly most of Syria if it works in the RP

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Reverend Norv, would Syria joining with this Caliphate at some point work with your current alt-history you've written so far? If not, that is fine as well, just wondering.

It would work perfectly. Having a large, powerful neighbor would be an excellent spur for Jerusalem's various peoples to put aside their differences and start building a shared society. A common enemy does wonders for national coherence. You are more than welcome to Syria.

Also: for purposes of working out my history, I assume this is a Sunni caliphate? Relevant since there are likely major populations of Shi'a and Druze in Jerusalem, which could help to explain how the republic's Muslims became more loyal to this multifaith society than to the Caliphate.

[Dragos Bee]

Snip.

Would England appreciate foreign aid from Byzantium and maybe a Royal Marriage?

[Deblar]

Snip.

Would England appreciate foreign aid from Byzantium and maybe a Royal Marriage?

Don’t have much of a reason not to, so I don’t see why not

[Dragos Bee]

Would England appreciate foreign aid from Byzantium and maybe a Royal Marriage?

Don’t have much of a reason not to, so I don’t see why not

Perfect. Our Empress has sons and daughters of adult age to spare.

[Turkducken]

Small comments about England

Napoleon would’ve been 23 at the time of that attempted coup, and based on his life probably would still be in Corsica and deeply sympathetic to that cause at the time.

So he probably wouldn’t have led the officers coup, or been a part of it, as he didn’t get into French Nationalism until later (this is a minor nitpick)

Somewhat salty that the French Revolution didn’t dissolve the Union then and there, was sort of hoping to be bouncing ideas across the Atlantic between the Republic and Columbia

Also there would be no Columbian invasion of Afghanistan, probably

Regardless Columbia and England would likely have a much rockier relationship than IRL, and probably only would’ve resumed semi normal relations post Great War era

[Al-Ghaihr]

Snip.

Would England appreciate foreign aid from Byzantium and maybe a Royal Marriage?

What about an Italian medal ceremony for advancements in helping set up electric/nuclear-powered cars and lessening the reliance of fossil fuels...?

[Dragos Bee]

Would England appreciate foreign aid from Byzantium and maybe a Royal Marriage?

What about an Italian medal ceremony for advancements in helping set up electric/nuclear-powered cars and lessening the reliance of fossil fuels...?

That works too, yes. Byzantium is also investing in Nuclear Fusion more than the usual country.

Sao Nova Europa, is it okay to have Byzantine scientists reach 'Fusion Ignition' in 2021 (when American scientists did so IRL)?

Small comments about England

Napoleon would’ve been 23 at the time of that attempted coup, and based on his life probably would still be in Corsica and deeply sympathetic to that cause at the time.

So he probably wouldn’t have led the officers coup, or been a part of it, as he didn’t get into French Nationalism until later (this is a minor nitpick)

Somewhat salty that the French Revolution didn’t dissolve the Union then and there, was sort of hoping to be bouncing ideas across the Atlantic between the Republic and Columbia

Also there would be no Columbian invasion of Afghanistan, probably

Regardless Columbia and England would likely have a much rockier relationship than IRL, and probably only would’ve resumed semi normal relations post Great War era

Want Columbia and Byzantium to have a warm economic relationship?

RESERVATION
NS Name: Ard alAkhua
RP Name: Caliphate of Arabia
Territory: All Arab Peninsula states, Iraq, Somaliland (northern part of Somalia), possibly most of Syria if it works in the RP

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Want to be friends with Byzantium against the Communist threat?

[Khasinkonia]

Small comments about England

Napoleon would’ve been 23 at the time of that attempted coup, and based on his life probably would still be in Corsica and deeply sympathetic to that cause at the time.

So he probably wouldn’t have led the officers coup, or been a part of it, as he didn’t get into French Nationalism until later (this is a minor nitpick)

Somewhat salty that the French Revolution didn’t dissolve the Union then and there, was sort of hoping to be bouncing ideas across the Atlantic between the Republic and Columbia

Also there would be no Columbian invasion of Afghanistan, probably

Regardless Columbia and England would likely have a much rockier relationship than IRL, and probably only would’ve resumed semi normal relations post Great War era

Personally, I would prefer for a break from England at the time of the French Revolution, such that I can keep the Republican and Empire cycle from the 19th Century.

[Deblar]

Small comments about England

Napoleon would’ve been 23 at the time of that attempted coup, and based on his life probably would still be in Corsica and deeply sympathetic to that cause at the time.

So he probably wouldn’t have led the officers coup, or been a part of it, as he didn’t get into French Nationalism until later (this is a minor nitpick)

Aight, I could probably move that back by a couple of years then

Somewhat salty that the French Revolution didn’t dissolve the Union then and there, was sort of hoping to be bouncing ideas across the Atlantic between the Republic and Columbia

cope and seethe, Jacobine sympathizer /j

Also there would be no Columbian invasion of Afghanistan, probably

Noted, I can get rid of that

Regardless Columbia and England would likely have a much rockier relationship than IRL, and probably only would’ve resumed semi normal relations post Great War era

yeah probably

[Dragos Bee]

Wanna ally with my Byzantines?

Hmm maybe, do you imagine some kind of alt-nato thing?

Yes; maybe we can both be members of the Pacific Treaty Alliance or its Atlantic equivalent?

[Ard alAkhua]

RESERVATION
NS Name: Ard alAkhua
RP Name: Caliphate of Arabia
Territory: All Arab Peninsula states, Iraq, Somaliland (northern part of Somalia), possibly most of Syria if it works in the RP

Do not remove - 2022RP

Reverend Norv, would Syria joining with this Caliphate at some point work with your current alt-history you've written so far? If not, that is fine as well, just wondering.

It would work perfectly. Having a large, powerful neighbor would be an excellent spur for Jerusalem's various peoples to put aside their differences and start building a shared society. A common enemy does wonders for national coherence. You are more than welcome to Syria.

Also: for purposes of working out my history, I assume this is a Sunni caliphate? Relevant since there are likely major populations of Shi'a and Druze in Jerusalem, which could help to explain how the republic's Muslims became more loyal to this multifaith society than to the Caliphate.

Alhamdulillah, sounds very good! I appreciate it and I look forward to being your rival And yes this is a Sunni Caliphate, that had some persecution of Druze and Shia Muslims due to rising tensions between sects in the 1500s-1600s

[Khasinkonia]

Small comments about England

Napoleon would’ve been 23 at the time of that attempted coup, and based on his life probably would still be in Corsica and deeply sympathetic to that cause at the time.

So he probably wouldn’t have led the officers coup, or been a part of it, as he didn’t get into French Nationalism until later (this is a minor nitpick)

Aight, I could probably move that back by a couple of years then

Somewhat salty that the French Revolution didn’t dissolve the Union then and there, was sort of hoping to be bouncing ideas across the Atlantic between the Republic and Columbia

cope and seethe, Jacobine sympathizer /j

Also there would be no Columbian invasion of Afghanistan, probably

Noted, I can get rid of that

Regardless Columbia and England would likely have a much rockier relationship than IRL, and probably only would’ve resumed semi normal relations post Great War era

yeah probably

Would you be willing to consider modifying the history a bit, such that the French First Republic can correspond with OTL?