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Will there ever be a Third season of trading cards?

Postby Ozeanreisende » Sat Aug 27, 2022 6:38 am

Ive noticed that season two was in 2019 but im wondering if the delay is just from covid (somehow affecting the internet) but will there ever be a third season
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Postby Jabberwocky » Sat Aug 27, 2022 6:45 am

I feel confident there will be. Otherwise, why am I collecting all these cards?
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Postby The Orwell Society » Sat Aug 27, 2022 6:51 am

Yes, but we don't exactly know when. Rumors say that the cards have actually already been designed and coded into the tech admin's NS testing sandbox, it's just the revisions to the minigame mechanics itself that is holding it up.
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Postby Cafe Hell » Mon Aug 29, 2022 7:27 pm

Pls NS Staff add s3!!!

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Postby Benevolent 1 » Sun Sep 04, 2022 4:15 pm

Jabberwocky wrote:I only recently started trading cards, but I'm rather obsessed by them now. I look forward to the next season, but even more to Max's next novel.


Maybe the obsession caused by the cards isn't exactly a positive in the long run.

I'd hope so as Max's novels are on the positive side of compelling.

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Postby Coffin-Breathe » Mon Sep 05, 2022 4:41 am

Benevolent 1 wrote:Maybe the obsession caused by the cards isn't exactly a positive in the long run.

...nice example of 'understatement' here, I´d say...
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Postby Vylixan » Mon Sep 05, 2022 4:53 am

Benevolent 1 wrote:
Jabberwocky wrote:I only recently started trading cards, but I'm rather obsessed by them now. I look forward to the next season, but even more to Max's next novel.


Maybe the obsession caused by the cards isn't exactly a positive in the long run.

I'd hope so as Max's novels are on the positive side of compelling.


Don't be such a downer Benevolent, you can't be all like "Boooo cards" at the same time as being placed 8th in most valuable decks with only 999 cards.
In fact, your deck has only 1 card valued at JunkValue, which you are inflating as we speak.
Which makes your deck a rather unique deck come to think of it.

You can't act all high and above the game at the same time as being rather involved in it for the past 4 years.

If you think cards are such a bad thing then give away all your cards, or delete them and or let your cardholding nations CTE. That would show everyone you really believe what you are saying, rather then just trying to appear above the common card player.
But don't come in here from time to time with holier than thou mentality about cards when you are part of the very problem you rail against.
Cards don't get inflated in a vacuum. And gathering the amount of bank needed to inflate cards isn't done without playing the market or large card farming operations.

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Postby Benevolent 1 » Mon Sep 05, 2022 6:19 pm

Vylixan wrote:
Benevolent 1 wrote:
Maybe the obsession caused by the cards isn't exactly a positive in the long run.

I'd hope so as Max's novels are on the positive side of compelling.


Don't be such a downer Benevolent, you can't be all like "Boooo cards" at the same time as being placed 8th in most valuable decks with only 999 cards.
In fact, your deck has only 1 card valued at JunkValue, which you are inflating as we speak.
Which makes your deck a rather unique deck come to think of it.

You can't act all high and above the game at the same time as being rather involved in it for the past 4 years.

If you think cards are such a bad thing then give away all your cards, or delete them and or let your cardholding nations CTE. That would show everyone you really believe what you are saying, rather then just trying to appear above the common card player.
But don't come in here from time to time with holier than thou mentality about cards when you are part of the very problem you rail against.
Cards don't get inflated in a vacuum. And gathering the amount of bank needed to inflate cards isn't done without playing the market or large card farming operations.


Now get down off your highly obsessed horse and face the music. First, stop talking down to everybody with whom YOU disagree. So you've posted your noise as you wish, ironically hypocritical as it is. Congrats.

Facts: I have never scripted anything. I never participated in the TACLS debacle. And those few who did abused the balance and health of the game. Y'all drove off vast numbers of players. And btw, i don't plot against other players on discord either. I feel bad for you bc these things are part and parcel of your mentality. And yes, i also have freedom of speech and will exercise it to some extent. But don't expect me to waste much more of my time addressing your rant.

Me? Well, luckily i got into the game on it's second day with a regional farm (not a card farm) built years before there was any daily card game. It kills you i was there at the beginning, functionally able to pull a lot of now valuable cards. That's where my bank is mostly derived. And I come and go as i please, not out of habit. When it begins to feel like a habit, i take a hiatus. Sometimes as long as six months. The last three years my play has been rather sporadic, unpredictable. That's a healthy mentality. Players do need to deal with this if playing cards becomes an obsession. Please don't feel threatened by that idea. It's a better way to thrive long term. Mmm-kay?

Finally, i do admire some of your card collections. Very nice. I have some too. :hug:
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Postby Benevolent 1 » Mon Sep 05, 2022 6:23 pm

Coffin-Breathe wrote:
Benevolent 1 wrote:Maybe the obsession caused by the cards isn't exactly a positive in the long run.

...nice example of 'understatement' here, I´d say...


Indeed.

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Postby Very totally free » Mon Sep 05, 2022 6:27 pm

The Orwell Society wrote:Yes, but we don't exactly know when. Rumors say that the cards have actually already been designed and coded into the tech admin's NS testing sandbox, it's just the revisions to the minigame mechanics itself that is holding it up.

personally, I don't think the minigame mechanics need to be changed.
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Postby Azanya » Sun Sep 11, 2022 11:57 am

hope soon

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WHEN ARE THERE NEW CARDS

Postby Sartell Koltis » Thu Sep 15, 2022 1:07 pm

When are there gonna be new cards
I have been waiting FOREVER
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Postby Cerata » Thu Sep 15, 2022 9:16 pm

It's been 25291029989 years, Max...
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Postby Heaven Tactical » Thu Sep 22, 2022 1:22 am

[proposal=]szn 3[/proposal]

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Postby Panagouge » Thu Sep 22, 2022 11:15 pm

Cerata wrote:It's been 25291029989 years, Max...

It isn't Max's call. Max pretty much leaves the site to run itself, and pops in occasionally to promote his latest book.
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Postby Catacomb Dwellers » Wed Sep 28, 2022 11:03 pm

I thought it was going to happen sometime after the 2021 April Fool's event, which made me assume that they would include banners in S3 cards, but it's been a while since that happened. This year, I've been assuming that it's been delayed by the war. The COVID theory makes some sense to me, too. Then again, maybe a Season 3 was never actually planned at all...

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Postby Bears Armed » Wed Sep 28, 2022 11:12 pm

As I've said before, I [still] think that the delay is because they're still deciding how to decouple receiving cards from answering issues and won't launch S3 until they've done that first.
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Postby Il Sonno della Ragione Genera Mostri » Thu Sep 29, 2022 2:23 pm

Panagouge wrote:
Cerata wrote:It's been 25291029989 years, Max...

It isn't Max's call. Max pretty much leaves the site to run itself

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Postby The Finntopian Empire » Thu Sep 29, 2022 2:53 pm

Il Sonno della Ragione Genera Mostri wrote:
Panagouge wrote:It isn't Max's call. Max pretty much leaves the site to run itself

NationStates is a gargantuan, socially progressive game. The hard-working population of 285,367 Players live in a state of perpetual fear, as a complete breakdown of social order has led to the rise of order through biker gangs.

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Postby The Shaymen » Sat Oct 01, 2022 3:43 pm

Bears Armed wrote:As I've said before, I [still] think that the delay is because they're still deciding how to decouple receiving cards from answering issues and won't launch S3 until they've done that first.


Easiest way to "solve" that is to make it that you get say .05 bank for every hour, which stops if you don't collect it for 24 hours (So would have a hard limit of 1.2 bank).

The only way you can get cards in future is by buying packs.

1 bank for a pack of cards.
2 bank for 3 packs of cards.
3 bank for 5 packs of cards.

Users can then decide if they want to spend bank to buy packs of cards and have the chance of pulling better cards, or to save their bank and try get cards they want off the market.

I'd also go further and add the following new additions -

1 - Those that are over capacity aren't able to get new cards, or buy them on auction until they go under cap again. For those currently over any excess bank they currently have would be automatically spent to increase their cap until they can no longer afford it. If they are still over cap after all the excess bank has been spent then the cards that are over cap are junked at junk prices until the cap is met.

2 - Each auction would be for one card. So no being able to buy 2/3/4/5 copies of the same card at the same time, or being able to sell 2/3/4/5 cards on the same auction. Also a stop to being able to both buy and sell a card on the same auction

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Postby Fauzjhia » Sat Oct 01, 2022 4:36 pm

The Shaymen wrote:
Bears Armed wrote:As I've said before, I [still] think that the delay is because they're still deciding how to decouple receiving cards from answering issues and won't launch S3 until they've done that first.


Easiest way to "solve" that is to make it that you get say .05 bank for every hour, which stops if you don't collect it for 24 hours (So would have a hard limit of 1.2 bank).

The only way you can get cards in future is by buying packs.

1 bank for a pack of cards.
2 bank for 3 packs of cards.
3 bank for 5 packs of cards.

Users can then decide if they want to spend bank to buy packs of cards and have the chance of pulling better cards, or to save their bank and try get cards they want off the market.

I'd also go further and add the following new additions -

1 - Those that are over capacity aren't able to get new cards, or buy them on auction until they go under cap again. For those currently over any excess bank they currently have would be automatically spent to increase their cap until they can no longer afford it. If they are still over cap after all the excess bank has been spent then the cards that are over cap are junked at junk prices until the cap is met.

2 - Each auction would be for one card. So no being able to buy 2/3/4/5 copies of the same card at the same time, or being able to sell 2/3/4/5 cards on the same auction. Also a stop to being able to both buy and sell a card on the same auction


Ah so new.
here another guy who loves to used puppets, love to use transfer cards, because I SAW you, using transfer and selling some cards to yourself, claiming that they want to stop transfers. a bit like its good when you do it, its bad when others do it. the only word I got to define that attitude is Hypocrisy.

Frisbeeteria will not implement 1, stop asking that. A guy with over 28 000 cards, telling everyone they cannot own more then 500 is the very definition of hypocrisy, and he would strongly affect the credibility of the Ns Staff if ever he decide to do that.

and you can forget about 2, This is just annoying to everyone.
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Postby New Sunville » Sun Oct 02, 2022 12:21 pm

Fauzjhia wrote:
The Shaymen wrote:
Easiest way to "solve" that is to make it that you get say .05 bank for every hour, which stops if you don't collect it for 24 hours (So would have a hard limit of 1.2 bank).

The only way you can get cards in future is by buying packs.

1 bank for a pack of cards.
2 bank for 3 packs of cards.
3 bank for 5 packs of cards.

Users can then decide if they want to spend bank to buy packs of cards and have the chance of pulling better cards, or to save their bank and try get cards they want off the market.

I'd also go further and add the following new additions -

1 - Those that are over capacity aren't able to get new cards, or buy them on auction until they go under cap again. For those currently over any excess bank they currently have would be automatically spent to increase their cap until they can no longer afford it. If they are still over cap after all the excess bank has been spent then the cards that are over cap are junked at junk prices until the cap is met.

2 - Each auction would be for one card. So no being able to buy 2/3/4/5 copies of the same card at the same time, or being able to sell 2/3/4/5 cards on the same auction. Also a stop to being able to both buy and sell a card on the same auction


Ah so new.
here another guy who loves to used puppets, love to use transfer cards, because I SAW you, using transfer and selling some cards to yourself, claiming that they want to stop transfers. a bit like its good when you do it, its bad when others do it. the only word I got to define that attitude is Hypocrisy.

Frisbeeteria will not implement 1, stop asking that. A guy with over 28 000 cards, telling everyone they cannot own more then 500 is the very definition of hypocrisy, and he would strongly affect the credibility of the Ns Staff if ever he decide to do that.

and you can forget about 2, This is just annoying to everyone.

Yeah, the first idea is interesting but would just make puppet use mandatory and the other two ideas are a good way to kill the game out right. If anything the deck limit should be removed since for most high level players it doesn't exist.
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Postby The Shaymen » Sun Oct 02, 2022 1:35 pm

Fauzjhia wrote:
Ah so new.
here another guy who loves to used puppets, love to use transfer cards, because I SAW you, using transfer and selling some cards to yourself, claiming that


So aggressive, but for what reason? :blink:

This game is broke on so many different levels. It's open to exploits. Either we keep the exploits and its all fair game, or remove them all and have a "fairer" way to play. It's not hypocritical to give SUGGESTIONS for the game. I have puppets and I use them to gift myself cards and also to transfer bank. I do it because its not against the rules - if those that make the game wish to make it against the rules then they can put things in place to stop it, and I will no longer do it. Until then, I'm not breaking the rules so will continue to play the game the way I want.

I'm not calling anyone out for the way they want to play it, so why do you feel the need to do that to me?
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Postby Il Sonno della Ragione Genera Mostri » Tue Oct 04, 2022 12:08 pm

Card market should be regulated like the World Assembly: just the "main" nation should gain and trade cards.
Admns can control and punish the multiaccounts in world assembly, so I think they could also control and punish multiaccounts in trading cards.
The puppets, at least, could be used as storage accounts for collections, because the prices to increase the decks are really crazy.

Of course I agree now it's too late to make so big game change. They should have thought about these "exploits" in beginning.
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Postby Coffin-Breathe » Wed Oct 05, 2022 4:32 am

Funny somehow to see the same arguements come up from 'both' sides, and this kind of discussion about *'fairness' and 'game flaws' also seems to restart every few months.
First, to all 'new' players, the card game originally was never meant to be more than an Aprils fools feature, but was turned on request of many players into a regular game (without to much thought about human greed, bad behaviour, semi-legal exploitation, whatsoever) by 'admin' in good intetion. That´s why it´s flawed and, after time now, it´s imo broken and can´t be repaired without making at least 'one side' (the exploiters, farmers, inflaters, aso) unhappy/angry.
And then, the sheer ammount of 'card game puppets' blows up the NS-game as a whole, as it pretends that many more users as there really are, which is not unwanted by the 'admins', as long as those puppets don´t create server or other system problems.
So, I suppose, the card came won´t really change.
The only possible way would be imo, to restart it completely, not with a 'season three', but a 'new season one' of a completely reworked game, one 'card receiving nation' for every account (like for the WA), and no storage or farming puppets; While this wouldn´t hinder the creation of card guilds or 'partnerships of interest' and such (which are legal), but would force every player to 'play by the rules' (which would function again and, imo, couldn´t be surpassed by the use of farming, storing or trading puppets); for sure, this would make the achieving of 'massive collections' or 'extremely expensive collections' like 'every card of one rarity' or 'every legendary card' practically impossible or at least incredibly hard, but do we (does the game) really need them ? Especially if those practically can only be achieved by exploiting or breaking the rules. It also would stop the amassing incredible ammounts of bank by some players, which would stabilize the market.
The already existing puppets, collections, amassed cards or bank can stay and used in the 'old game' (which exists further), but can´t be transferred to the 'new game' in no way, as every participating nation has to start with zero bank and no cards in storage, and a new currency and a new type of cards, also a new market, not exchangable and unable to intermingle with the 'new ones' would have to be created. The playfield would be leveled and fair for everyone then.
I´m pretty sure, some 'players' would immediatly look for new loopholes and ways to exploit and/or surbass the rules again, but that´s human nature (at least for some), and I´m only one person and can´t think of everything in my proposal to be fool- and bulletproof - that´s why forums and discussion platforms exist, I´d say.

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