American Politics XIV: The Dawning of the Age of the Pumpkin

[Cannot think of a name]

Why in all the fucks is this the hill management wants to die on!? I don't fucking get it.

Maybe they think there's a shortage of workers...if so, it could be easily rectified by just doing what the unions want as I see it.

It's borderline cartoonish in its fuckery. There's some cigar chomping motherfucker somewhere banging a table yelling about how he's not going to let them damn workers get over on him on their quote unquote sick days.

There's gotta be some kind of weird calculus that's really only going to make it seem worse. Like there's a work condition illness that they're hoping now one will connect the dots on that has people over requesting sick days or something.

Outside stupid freelance gig jobs literally every shitty fucked off nobody job I've had has had a better sick day policy. I have a better sick day policy on sets for fuck's sake.

This is so goddamn bizarre. I really want someone to sit one of this dildos down...nah, wait, dildos make people happy, I had a word I was using-goobers. I want someone to sit one of these goobers down and do one of those interviews where like Jon Stewart would just keep asking the direct question until they get flustered. Doesn't have to be Stewart, he's off on AppleTV anyway. Just sit one of these goobers down and make them explain why this is where they're drawing the line.

[The Black Forrest]

Very republican of you.

Are you finally going to join your party?

Lumen's no Republican, a Republican would give the railroads a tax break and let the wealth trickle down to the workers.

Which is somehow still a better platform than "Work for peanuts and like it!"...

Having worked through St. Reagan and the era of “trickle down is so cool”; it was working for peanuts and our reward was the job.

[Umeria]

Maybe they think there's a shortage of workers...if so, it could be easily rectified by just doing what the unions want as I see it.

It's borderline cartoonish in its fuckery. There's some cigar chomping motherfucker somewhere banging a table yelling about how he's not going to let them damn workers get over on him on their quote unquote sick days.

There's gotta be some kind of weird calculus that's really only going to make it seem worse. Like there's a work condition illness that they're hoping now one will connect the dots on that has people over requesting sick days or something.

Outside stupid freelance gig jobs literally every shitty fucked off nobody job I've had has had a better sick day policy. I have a better sick day policy on sets for fuck's sake.

This is so goddamn bizarre. I really want someone to sit one of this dildos down...nah, wait, dildos make people happy, I had a word I was using-goobers. I want someone to sit one of these goobers down and do one of those interviews where like Jon Stewart would just keep asking the direct question until they get flustered. Doesn't have to be Stewart, he's off on AppleTV anyway. Just sit one of these goobers down and make them explain why this is where they're drawing the line.

I suspect that the culprit isn't a villain banging his fists on a table, it's the table itself. Take any individual person out of the board meeting and they'll tell you that of course I care about our hardworking staff, I'm doing everything I can to resolve the unfortunate situation, etc. But take each of their desires to get the meeting over with, to just make sure this line connects with that line so we can finish the quarterly report, and you get a conclusion that somehow arose purely out of the atmosphere.

If you think about it, a bureaucracy is the closest thing humanity's ever gotten to a real-life satanic ritual. Sit in a circle (or rectangle or whatever), offer up slideshows and markers and stacks of papers, speak the introductory incantations and suddenly you have a foreign intelligence that's been freed to influence the material world.

[Myrensis]

It's borderline cartoonish in its fuckery. There's some cigar chomping motherfucker somewhere banging a table yelling about how he's not going to let them damn workers get over on him on their quote unquote sick days.

There's gotta be some kind of weird calculus that's really only going to make it seem worse. Like there's a work condition illness that they're hoping now one will connect the dots on that has people over requesting sick days or something.

Outside stupid freelance gig jobs literally every shitty fucked off nobody job I've had has had a better sick day policy. I have a better sick day policy on sets for fuck's sake.

This is so goddamn bizarre. I really want someone to sit one of this dildos down...nah, wait, dildos make people happy, I had a word I was using-goobers. I want someone to sit one of these goobers down and do one of those interviews where like Jon Stewart would just keep asking the direct question until they get flustered. Doesn't have to be Stewart, he's off on AppleTV anyway. Just sit one of these goobers down and make them explain why this is where they're drawing the line.

I suspect that the culprit isn't a villain banging his fists on a table, it's the table itself. Take any individual person out of the board meeting and they'll tell you that of course I care about our hardworking staff, I'm doing everything I can to resolve the unfortunate situation, etc. But take each of their desires to get the meeting over with, to just make sure this line connects with that line so we can finish the quarterly report, and you get a conclusion that somehow arose purely out of the atmosphere.

If you think about it, a bureaucracy is the closest thing humanity's ever gotten to a real-life satanic ritual. Sit in a circle (or rectangle or whatever), offer up slideshows and markers and stacks of papers, speak the introductory incantations and suddenly you have a foreign intelligence that's been freed to influence the material world.

Yeah..no. This is not bureaucratic inertia, it's pure unadulterated greed. They don't give a shit about their 'hardworking staff' if it means giving up a single penny more than they absolutely have to, and not even that if they can blackmail the government and dimwitted Americans into siding with them to "save the economy" from those lazy entitled unions who think they can just get sick any day of the week without giving a months notice in advance.

San Lumen is right about one thing however, the timing is unfortunate. Democrats may not be doing as much as they should, but Republicans have been quite explicitly clear that as far as they're concerned the government should have all ready forced the rail workers to shut the fuck up and take what the company offered and be grateful for it, and they are the ones who will benefit politically from the economic fallout of a strike if it happens before the midterms.

[Big Jim P]

If it weren't for double standards, they'd have no standards at all.

[Ifreann]

If it weren't for double standards, they'd have no standards at all.

Adams said he was not encouraging people to send migrants to the City, but said that Leeser had coordinated with the City in a way that Abbott had not.

"When we reached out to the mayor of El Paso, he was willing to sit down and share what his concerns are and what our concerns are and figure out a humane way to coordinate," he said at a press conference. "And we are clear, we cannot handle all of your migrants, mayor of El Paso. But we were able to communicate with them. We were not able to do that with Governor Abbott's team. We spoke with them, they stated they were going to inform us, and he did not."

And if we click over to another article on Fox about what the El Paso mayor is doing...

Leeser said that officials speak with arriving migrants, learn what their destinations are, and help them get there.

"We put human beings on buses with food and make sure they get to their destination and make sure that we always continue to treat people like human beings," Leeser said
[...]
Leeser also said that all migrants who arrive in the city are given food and place to stay so that they don’t end up homeless on the city’s streets.

So with even the briefest consideration of the details at hand, we can see that this is significantly different from Ron DeSantis lying to people and trying to ruin their lives so that he can have a little giggle about owning the libs.

[Umeria]

I suspect that the culprit isn't a villain banging his fists on a table, it's the table itself. Take any individual person out of the board meeting and they'll tell you that of course I care about our hardworking staff, I'm doing everything I can to resolve the unfortunate situation, etc. But take each of their desires to get the meeting over with, to just make sure this line connects with that line so we can finish the quarterly report, and you get a conclusion that somehow arose purely out of the atmosphere.

If you think about it, a bureaucracy is the closest thing humanity's ever gotten to a real-life satanic ritual. Sit in a circle (or rectangle or whatever), offer up slideshows and markers and stacks of papers, speak the introductory incantations and suddenly you have a foreign intelligence that's been freed to influence the material world.

Yeah..no. This is not bureaucratic inertia, it's pure unadulterated greed. They don't give a shit about their 'hardworking staff' if it means giving up a single penny more than they absolutely have to, and not even that if they can blackmail the government and dimwitted Americans into siding with them to "save the economy" from those lazy entitled unions who think they can just get sick any day of the week without giving a months notice in advance.

San Lumen is right about one thing however, the timing is unfortunate. Democrats may not be doing as much as they should, but Republicans have been quite explicitly clear that as far as they're concerned the government should have all ready forced the rail workers to shut the fuck up and take what the company offered and be grateful for it, and they are the ones who will benefit politically from the economic fallout of a strike if it happens before the midterms.

What I'm saying is that the pure unadulterated greed could be coming from the bureaucracy.

The midterm thing might be true, but I think we should prefer the long term accomplishment over the short term one. Honestly it reminds me of an old Onion video where there was a car accident or something and the news anchors were speculating about how it would impact the midterms. Basically making the point that that kind of discourse shouldn't be used for everything.

[San Lumen]

https://kstp.com/kstp-news/local-news/e ... nnesota-2/

Early voting begins today in Minnesota.

[Khurkhogur]

Your trade offs are notoriously bad, considering you were literally fine with trading the lives of millions of people if it meant you could see Hamilton.

Seriously? That's an awful trade - Hamilton sucks

[The Black Forrest]

If it weren't for double standards, they'd have no standards at all.

Kind of like DeSantis calling a demo and elitist. Foolish me though going to Harvard and Yale was rather elitist.

Still we do have him paying the company of his buddy to do the flights. Ethics and all….

[The Black Forrest]

Your trade offs are notoriously bad, considering you were literally fine with trading the lives of millions of people if it meant you could see Hamilton.

Seriously? That's an awful trade - Hamilton sucks

Does it now? What do you consider good?

[Celritannia]

Very republican of you.

Are you finally going to join your party?

Why don’t you since your willing to end democracy?

Supporting the working class is ending democracy now?

[Thermodolia]

I didn't say they did. I said they should give the workers what they want.

Well Congress doesn't own the railroads, so...

Not yet

[Thermodolia]

Your whole “logic” can’t be taken serious. Your main concern is the fear of disruption to your lifestyle.

That view alone invalidates claims of support for the rail people.

The deal is bullshit and should be rightfully voted down.

Be prepared for delays into buying stuff. I will happily wait….

And Republicans will sweep the midterms and democracy will end. One of the things they will do is destroy unions .

Why would republicans win when democrats support unions and the strikes?

[Thermodolia]

And Republicans will sweep the midterms and democracy will end. One of the things they will do is destroy unions .

I provided two sources that show that a majority of voters support labor strikes and a majority of Americans support unions, all you've offered is this "because I said so" hysterical nonsense about a red wave if a strike happens - when the data indicates people are supportive of strikes and unions. Unless the Dems throw the election by attacking the rail workers, why would people vote against them because of the strike?

Well Lumen saying so isn’t the only source, Mitch McConnell has also been claiming the same thing

[San Lumen]

And Republicans will sweep the midterms and democracy will end. One of the things they will do is destroy unions .

Why would republicans win when democrats support unions and the strikes?

The economic disruption would be blamed on them and if you think it would not your not thinking rationally.

[Celritannia]

Why would republicans win when democrats support unions and the strikes?

The economic disruption would be blamed on them and if you think it would not your not thinking rationally.

There will be no economic disruption.
It will only harm the rail companies raking in their money.

Seriously, stop being a liberal elitist chicken little and think about people's needs for once.

[Ors Might]

Why would republicans win when democrats support unions and the strikes?

The economic disruption would be blamed on them and if you think it would not your not thinking rationally.

If one has to choose between Democrats and railroad workers being able to go to the doctor and not work themselves to death, it seems an easy choice, no?

[Thermodolia]

Why would republicans win when democrats support unions and the strikes?

The economic disruption would be blamed on them and if you think it would not your not thinking rationally.

What economic disruption? Nearly every economist including the most right wing ones like Cato Institute and others all say that economic disruptions would be extremely minimal if it happens at all.

The strike would have to last over a month at the very least to cause massive economic issues, and the longest the strike would go is 10 days.

That’s not enough time to cause major disruptions.

Given that you keep repeating this line I want to know where you heard this? Because the only people who are saying this are republican operatives and Mitch McConnell which means the republicans are worried that if a strike happens they’ll get hammered in the polls

[Shrillland]

CARB passes proposal that would ban the sale of natural gas space heaters, water heaters, and furnaces in CA by 2030

[San Lumen]

The economic disruption would be blamed on them and if you think it would not your not thinking rationally.

What economic disruption? Nearly every economist including the most right wing ones like Cato Institute and others all say that economic disruptions would be extremely minimal if it happens at all.

The strike would have to last over a month at the very least to cause massive economic issues, and the longest the strike would go is 10 days.

That’s not enough time to cause major disruptions.

Given that you keep repeating this line I want to know where you heard this? Because the only people who are saying this are republican operatives and Mitch McConnell which means the republicans are worried that if a strike happens they’ll get hammered in the polls

Abc news

[Thermodolia]

What economic disruption? Nearly every economist including the most right wing ones like Cato Institute and others all say that economic disruptions would be extremely minimal if it happens at all.

The strike would have to last over a month at the very least to cause massive economic issues, and the longest the strike would go is 10 days.

That’s not enough time to cause major disruptions.

Given that you keep repeating this line I want to know where you heard this? Because the only people who are saying this are republican operatives and Mitch McConnell which means the republicans are worried that if a strike happens they’ll get hammered in the polls

Abc news

Well it’s false. The only people saying that are republicans.

[San Lumen]

Abc news

Well it’s false. The only people saying that are republicans.

Why did the Labour secretary hold talks if a strike would be no big deal?

[Celritannia]

Well it’s false. The only people saying that are republicans.

Why did the Labour secretary hold talks if a strike would be no big deal?

Because that's what you do?

[Cannot think of a name]

Why did the Labour secretary hold talks if a strike would be no big deal?

Because that's what you do?

It's like "labor" is in the name or something.