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Postby Kalivyah » Wed Sep 21, 2022 11:11 am

Ayytaly wrote:
Kalivyah wrote:Who the fuck calls themselves "American" when they live in Argentina


People who don't buy into the Anglo-enforced North/South America model.

In translation: "I'm stubborn and won't call myself by my actual nationality."
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Postby Ayytaly » Wed Sep 21, 2022 11:12 am

Kalivyah wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:
Most of the folks I worked with over the course of my work assignments there.

"Hey, what country are you from?"
- Intentionally calls themselves after the only fucking demonym of a country and the only country in the Americas to be titled "America"
- Gets mad when people don't realize they're *insert other nationality here*

You're not "American" first you're Argentinian :rofl:


I'm from Australia
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Postby Ethel mermania » Wed Sep 21, 2022 11:12 am

Kalivyah wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:
Most of the folks I worked with over the course of my work assignments there.

"Hey, what country are you from?"
- Intentionally calls themselves after the only fucking demonym of a country and the only country in the Americas to be titled "America"
- Gets mad when people don't realize they're *insert other nationality here*

You're not "American" first you're Argentinian :rofl:

Their point was we are all Americans. You (me) is an unitedstatesian, they are Argentinians.
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Postby Kalivyah » Wed Sep 21, 2022 11:12 am

Ayytaly wrote:
Kalivyah wrote:"Hey, what country are you from?"
- Intentionally calls themselves after the only fucking demonym of a country and the only country in the Americas to be titled "America"
- Gets mad when people don't realize they're *insert other nationality here*

You're not "American" first you're Argentinian :rofl:


I'm from Australia

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Postby Kalivyah » Wed Sep 21, 2022 11:14 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
Kalivyah wrote:"Hey, what country are you from?"
- Intentionally calls themselves after the only fucking demonym of a country and the only country in the Americas to be titled "America"
- Gets mad when people don't realize they're *insert other nationality here*

You're not "American" first you're Argentinian :rofl:

Their point was we are all Americans. You (me) is an unitedstatesian, they are Argentinians.

What type of demonym is "unitedstatesian"? There's no "gatekeeping" here because the United States of America is the only country in the Americas CALLED "America". Should we apply the same logic of "Americans gatekeep their demonym!!" to Ecuador? Should the people who only live on the Equator be mad at Ecuador for gatekeeping the term "Ecuadorian"?
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Postby Ayytaly » Wed Sep 21, 2022 11:19 am

Kalivyah wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:Their point was we are all Americans. You (me) is an unitedstatesian, they are Argentinians.

What type of demonym is "unitedstatesian"? There's no "gatekeeping" here because the United States of America is the only country in the Americas CALLED "America". Should we apply the same logic of "Americans gatekeep their demonym!!" to Ecuador? Should the people who only live on the Equator be mad at Ecuador for gatekeeping the term "Ecuadorian"?


America is the Latin form of Emmerich which is the basis for names like Henry and Harry (Yer a Yank, 'arry!) There's also the proposed "Usonian" by Frank Lloyd Wright. And strictly speaking Hawaiians aren't American.
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Postby Sordhau » Wed Sep 21, 2022 11:23 am

The debate around the usage of the "American" demonym can easily be solved by dissolving the United States.
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Postby Perikuresu » Wed Sep 21, 2022 11:24 am

Sordhau wrote:The debate around the usage of the "American" demonym can easily be solved by dissolving the United States.

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Postby Kalivyah » Wed Sep 21, 2022 11:24 am

Ayytaly wrote:
Kalivyah wrote:What type of demonym is "unitedstatesian"? There's no "gatekeeping" here because the United States of America is the only country in the Americas CALLED "America". Should we apply the same logic of "Americans gatekeep their demonym!!" to Ecuador? Should the people who only live on the Equator be mad at Ecuador for gatekeeping the term "Ecuadorian"?


America is the Latin form of Emmerich which is the basis for names like Henry and Harry (Yer a Yank, 'arry!) There's also the proposed "Usonian" by Frank Lloyd Wright. And strictly speaking Hawaiians aren't American.

- No it's not. It was either named after Amerigo Vespucci or the Amerrisque mountain range in Nicaragua.
- "Usonian" is dumb.
- Hawai'ians are by nationality American.
- "Wesputia" sounds pretty fucking cool for America though
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Postby Ayytaly » Wed Sep 21, 2022 11:25 am

Kalivyah wrote:
Ayytaly wrote:
America is the Latin form of Emmerich which is the basis for names like Henry and Harry (Yer a Yank, 'arry!) There's also the proposed "Usonian" by Frank Lloyd Wright. And strictly speaking Hawaiians aren't American.

- No it's not. It was either named after Amerigo Vespucci or the Amerrisque mountain range in Nicaragua.
- "Usonian" is dumb.
- Hawai'ians are by nationality American.
- "Wesputia" sounds pretty fucking cool for America though


Amerigo is Italian (a Latin language) for Emmerich.
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Postby Kalivyah » Wed Sep 21, 2022 11:25 am

Sordhau wrote:The debate around the usage of the "American" demonym can easily be solved by dissolving the United States.

Why do that? Just make America communist... they have a pretty good track record with changing regimes, I'm sure we could defeat capitalism pretty quickly.
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Postby Kalivyah » Wed Sep 21, 2022 11:26 am

Ayytaly wrote:
Kalivyah wrote:- No it's not. It was either named after Amerigo Vespucci or the Amerrisque mountain range in Nicaragua.
- "Usonian" is dumb.
- Hawai'ians are by nationality American.
- "Wesputia" sounds pretty fucking cool for America though


Amerigo is Italian (a Latin language) for Emmerich.

Okay fine you got me there

Anyways what the fuck does that have to do with anything
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Postby Ayytaly » Wed Sep 21, 2022 11:26 am

Sordhau wrote:The debate around the usage of the "American" demonym can easily be solved by dissolving the United States.


Or by outlawing the English language.
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Postby Kalivyah » Wed Sep 21, 2022 11:27 am

Ayytaly wrote:
Sordhau wrote:The debate around the usage of the "American" demonym can easily be solved by dissolving the United States.


Or by outlawing the English language.

I am totally sure that an Australian would love to speak a language other than English
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Postby Ayytaly » Wed Sep 21, 2022 11:30 am

Kalivyah wrote:
Ayytaly wrote:
Or by outlawing the English language.

I am totally sure that an Australian would love to speak a language other than English


That comment about me being Australian was in jest. I'm actually Usonian. English sucks as a language and I hope the Anglish movement succeeds before it succumbs into TikTokese.
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Postby Sordhau » Wed Sep 21, 2022 11:32 am

Ayytaly wrote:
Sordhau wrote:The debate around the usage of the "American" demonym can easily be solved by dissolving the United States.


Or by outlawing the English language.


It already died in 1066. It just needs burial.
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Postby Ayytaly » Wed Sep 21, 2022 11:35 am

Sordhau wrote:
Ayytaly wrote:
Or by outlawing the English language.


It already died in 1066. It just needs burial.


To be fair so did Hebrew up until its resurrection in 1948. Anglish just needs more funding and awareness so that we can finally speak a proper Germanic language as opposed to one that's 60% tautology. I also desire the same for Spanish/Castillian becoming more Latin (exceptions include words from American languages such as chocolate).
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Postby Sordhau » Wed Sep 21, 2022 11:36 am

Ayytaly wrote:
Sordhau wrote:
It already died in 1066. It just needs burial.


To be fair so did Hebrew up until its resurrection in 1948. Anglish just needs more funding and awareness so that we can finally speak a proper Germanic language as opposed to one that's 60% tautology.


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Postby Kalivyah » Wed Sep 21, 2022 11:43 am

Sordhau wrote:
Ayytaly wrote:
To be fair so did Hebrew up until its resurrection in 1948. Anglish just needs more funding and awareness so that we can finally speak a proper Germanic language as opposed to one that's 60% tautology.


At last, a man of culture.

The Norman invasion of Angland has been a disaster not only for the Anglish but the world as a whole.
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Postby Nova Catania » Wed Sep 21, 2022 12:04 pm

Or, just have the US take over all of North and South America. That way we're not "Usionian", we're not offending people in the other countries of 'the Americas' and we're sure as hell not communist.

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Postby Sordhau » Wed Sep 21, 2022 12:06 pm

Nova Catania wrote:Or, just have the US take over all of North and South America. That way we're not "Usionian", we're not offending people in the other countries of 'the Americas' and we're sure as hell not communist.


Supporting blatant imperialism to own the commies.

Right-wing moment.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Wed Sep 21, 2022 12:08 pm

If the UK honors its agreements with the natives (A big reason the US revolution happened), we see a Native resurgence west of the thirteen colonies, likely as a series of British vassal states or aligned to the British.

The reforms that the American revolution prompted don't occur and we see "First Empire" policies instead of "Second Empire" policies, meaning larger settlement efforts in India and Africa when they are added to the Empire. We might see India have a "Southern India" nation which is overwhelmingly white, or predominantly white, and so on. Everywhere is still in full "Direct rule from London" mode.

The delay in devolution may prompt an imperial federation as an attempt to square the circle of Empire once this becomes too much to bare.
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Postby Nova Catania » Wed Sep 21, 2022 12:10 pm

Sordhau wrote:
Nova Catania wrote:Or, just have the US take over all of North and South America. That way we're not "Usionian", we're not offending people in the other countries of 'the Americas' and we're sure as hell not communist.


Supporting blatant imperialism to own the commies.

Right-wing moment.

That was sarcasm. But communism is like the McPizza. It was tried, didn't work, move on.

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Postby Torrocca » Wed Sep 21, 2022 12:24 pm

Best case scenario, an actual revolution happens in the 19th century and colonizers steadily get the boot over the following years and decades.

Worst case scenario, pip pip cheerio.

Kalivyah wrote:
Sordhau wrote:The debate around the usage of the "American" demonym can easily be solved by dissolving the United States.

Why do that? Just make America communist... they have a pretty good track record with changing regimes, I'm sure we could defeat capitalism pretty quickly.


It's a simple plan. We inform the US federal government of oil underneath the soil of Estados Unidos land. The government, enticed by such a discovery, will then launch wave after wave of red, white, and blue-blooded patriot in the military at the country, occupying their lands, rebuilding recently dronestriked schools and hospitals, and ousting the legitimate government and its financiers for a proxy regime. It's genius!
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Postby Nova Catania » Wed Sep 21, 2022 12:28 pm

Torrocca wrote:B
It's a simple plan. We inform the US federal government of oil underneath the soil of Estados Unidos land. The government, enticed by such a discovery, will then launch wave after wave of red, white, and blue-blooded patriot in the military at the country, occupying their lands, rebuilding recently dronestriked schools and hospitals, and ousting the legitimate government and its financiers for a proxy regime. It's genius!

I think I know how to get rid of my pesky next-door neighbors now.....

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