Here We Go Again: An Israeli Election Thread(Episode 1)

[Continental Free States]

If we go off what everyone online who suports Palestine without question then they'll be pushed into eather the River or the Sea.

Tbh the west should have carved out a piece of Germany and given it to the Jews after the war. Why should a bunch of Arabs suffer because of what Europeans did?

Because Israel has nothing to do with Holocaust in and of itself? Not quite sure why everyone keeps bringing this up, the establishment of Israel had nothing to do with the Holocaust other than a coalition of Arab countries wanting to finish the job, and Jews not wanting them to do that after they'd already been invaded.

[Erablegensstan]

Tbh the west should have carved out a piece of Germany and given it to the Jews after the war. Why should a bunch of Arabs suffer because of what Europeans did?

Because Israel has nothing to do with Holocaust in and of itself? Not quite sure why everyone keeps bringing this up, the establishment of Israel had nothing to do with the Holocaust other than a coalition of Arab countries wanting to finish the job, and Jews not wanting them to do that after they'd already been invaded.

Keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better, American. The link is solid.

[Continental Free States]

Because Israel has nothing to do with Holocaust in and of itself? Not quite sure why everyone keeps bringing this up, the establishment of Israel had nothing to do with the Holocaust other than a coalition of Arab countries wanting to finish the job, and Jews not wanting them to do that after they'd already been invaded.

Keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better, American. The link is solid.

Other than the effects of the Holocaust on the Jews being threatened by a second genocide less than two years later, there is no link whatsoever, much less a solid one. Not an American either.

[Vistulange]

If we go off what everyone online who suports Palestine without question then they'll be pushed into eather the River or the Sea.

Tbh the west should have carved out a piece of Germany and given it to the Jews after the war. Why should a bunch of Arabs suffer because of what Europeans did?

Whether the 1947 Partition Plan was just or unjust is a valid point of discussion, though nothing more than an interesting exercise at this point.

I don't get how carving out a piece of Germany and making it a Jewish state—presumably ethnically cleansing Germans along the way—is any better, though.

Also, y'know. I get that "Israel bad!" but ultimately, it doesn't have much to do with Israeli elections.

[Shrillland]

Lapid to announce support for two-state solution at UN tomorrow, Shaked, Smotrich, and Sa'ar condemn decision whilst Meretz in favour

This may well galvanise the Likud Bloc.

[Myrensis]

Lapid to announce support for two-state solution at UN tomorrow, Shaked, Smotrich, and Sa'ar condemn decision whilst Meretz in favour

This may well galvanise the Likud Bloc.

Never ceases to amuse how little effort the Israeli right puts into hiding the fact that as far as they're concerned the Nazi's pretty much had the right idea, they were just wrong about who exactly had the right to blood and soil and who needed to be purged for the security and purity of the fatherland.

[Shrillland]

The Joint List may be dead, but its remaining parties have signed a vote-sharing agreement

[Vistulange]

Lapid to announce support for two-state solution at UN tomorrow, Shaked, Smotrich, and Sa'ar condemn decision whilst Meretz in favour

This may well galvanise the Likud Bloc.

Never ceases to amuse how little effort the Israeli right puts into hiding the fact that as far as they're concerned the Nazi's pretty much had the right idea, they were just wrong about who exactly had the right to blood and soil and who needed to be purged for the security and purity of the fatherland.

As much as they're romanticised, Jabotinsky, Stern, and Begin were quite vile characters.

It's a fascinating topic of study, actually, to see how literal terrorists' crimes were either covered up or ignored in the state-building and nation-building process. That's not what you see every day. And I'm fully aware of the "yeah well isn't every state-building exercise like that?" pseudo-argument—even so, Israel is a...unique case. Well, I don't want to say unique, per se, just unusual.

[Pasong Tirad]

The Joint List may be dead, but its remaining parties have signed a vote-sharing agreement

If the latest batch of polls to come out following the deadline of the submission of party lists is anything to go by it still might not be enough to prevent the Joint List from losing seats. Best case scenario for Lapid is literally 60-60 with support from Hadash-Ta'al, assuming nobody raises any objections.

[Shrillland]

Now it's Lapid's turn for a boost: Truss tells Lapid that UK is considering moving Embassy to Jerusalem

If this goes through, Lapid will have a hell of a feather in his cap and might recall some of the Right elements of parties like National Unity back to supporting a Yesh Atid-led coalition.

[Shrillland]

On this Rosh Hashanah, the latest polls from Channel 13 and Channel 14 give the Likud Bloc a clear majority of 61-62 seats for the first time.

[Shrillland]

CEC votes 9-5 along ideological lines to strike Balad from the ballot for being Anti-Zionist and "Supporting terror," Balad to appeal to the High Court of Justice

[Shrillland]

Bibi's Bloc still hovering around 60 with 18 days to go

[Shrillland]

Bibi's banking on his 1+1=4 strategy, basically a GOTV effort for Likudniks

[Detestable Tory]

So if Likud win would this stall Bibi's trial? Seems like now that things are underway it shouldn't but I have no clue how Israeli law works.

[Philjia]

So if Likud win would this stall Bibi's trial? Seems like now that things are underway it shouldn't but I have no clue how Israeli law works.

The pm is immune to prosecution I think.

[East green Israel]

So if Likud win would this stall Bibi's trial? Seems like now that things are underway it shouldn't but I have no clue how Israeli law works.

The pm is immune to prosecution I think.

he isn't immune, but if his block of parties reaches the majority they could change it (along with limits on the high court's power to counter their efforts).

the last idea they've floated is to abolish the offense of “fraud and breach of trust" - Netanyahu is charged with this offense in all three of the cases for which he is currently on trial, along with a bribery charge in one of the cases.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/smotrich-unveils-plan-to-neuter-judicial-authority-potentially-halt-netanyahu-trial/

[Detestable Tory]

The pm is immune to prosecution I think.

he isn't immune, but if his block of parties reaches the majority they could change it (along with limits on the high court's power to counter their efforts).

the last idea they've floated is to abolish the offense of “fraud and breach of trust" - Netanyahu is charged with this offense in all three of the cases for which he is currently on trial, along with a bribery charge in one of the cases.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/smotrich-unveils-plan-to-neuter-judicial-authority-potentially-halt-netanyahu-trial/

Ah, so basically similar to what the Republicans want to do for January 6th if they win the House. Got it. Typical politics then, I still have my fingers crossed he goes down.

[Shrillland]

We now have the final list of vote sharing agreements for next week's vote

The polls still have the Likud Bloc just around 60-62.

[Nitrana]

The Blue and White look nice enough. As well as that, I’m all for Palestinian rights.

[Shrillland]

Here's the Jerusalem Post's list of what the parties want to do

Meanwhile, After Ram Ben Barak, a Yesh Atid MK, managed to compare Bibi, Smotrich, and Ben-Gvir to the Nazis, all Likud Bloc Parties are demanding an apology

[Vistulange]

So if Likud win would this stall Bibi's trial? Seems like now that things are underway it shouldn't but I have no clue how Israeli law works.

The pm is immune to prosecution I think.

No, that was Netanyahu's intention heading into the disaster that was 2019-2020. The whole reason he desperately needs the Likud to win is because he thinks—probably rightfully so—that a right-wing majority will pass an immunity law, keeping his corrupt arse out of prison.

Considering the polls, he might get what he wants.

Here's the Jerusalem Post's list of what the parties want to do

Meanwhile, After Ram Ben Barak, a Yesh Atid MK, managed to compare Bibi, Smotrich, and Ben-Gvir to the Nazis, all Likud Bloc Parties are demanding an apology

It's funny, because Smotrich and Ben-Gvir kind of do fit the bill. Not that it's not a terrible faux pas considering that it's, uh, Israel.

[Shrillland]

Israeli polls have just closed and guess who's back!

Kan 13 Exit Polls:

Likud Bloc: 62
Yesh Atid Bloc: 54
Hadash-Ta'al: 4

By Party:

Likud: 31
Yesh Atid: 24
Religious Zionists: 14
National Unity: 12
Shas: 10
UTJ: 7
Labor: 5
Ra'am: 5
Meretz: 4
Yisrael Beitenu: 4
Hadash-Ta'al: 4

[Continental Free States]

Israeli polls have just closed and guess who's back!

I don't know why I'm not even surprised Likud got the majority vote again to be honest. Might be because of the recent spats in Judea-Samaria but Idk.

[Shrillland]

Israeli polls have just closed and guess who's back!

I don't know why I'm not even surprised Likud got the majority vote again to be honest. Might be because of the recent spats in Judea-Samaria but Idk.

Partially that and partially because Lapid/Bennett's administration was a crumbly mess from the start. At least the Likud Bloc is ideologically consistent, so you know what you're getting with Bibi: Corruption and Rightward movement towards the eventual annexation.