American Politics XIV: The Dawning of the Age of the Pumpkin

[Cannot think of a name]

Transwoman here. I have literally never heard of people introducing themselves by stating their pronouns. Pins/badges with their pronouns on them, yes. Introduction with pronouns, no.

You don't go to a lot of performance art put on by collectives.

The last one I saw a friend was in they not only gave pronouns but started their presentation recognizing the tribe that was on the land the performance was taking place on. And that was not what the performance was about.

On the other hand I learned a co-worker I had been working with for well over a year had different pronouns when Facebook called him a he. So, I imagine it varies. And people in art collectives are...extra. (bonus points, as far as I could tell none of them weren't using pronouns different than their assigned sex at birth...like I said, extra.)

[Neutraligon]

Transwoman here. I have literally never heard of people introducing themselves by stating their pronouns. Pins/badges with their pronouns on them, yes. Introduction with pronouns, no.

You don't go to a lot of performance art put on by collectives.

The last one I saw a friend was in they not only gave pronouns but started their presentation recognizing the tribe that was on the land the performance was taking place on. And that was not what the performance was about.

On the other hand I learned a co-worker I had been working with for well over a year had different pronouns when Facebook called him a he. So, I imagine it varies. And people in art collectives are...extra. (bonus points, as far as I could tell none of them weren't using pronouns different than their assigned sex at birth...like I said, extra.)

I work with a lot of trans people. I think there are 4-5 that I know of in my workplace. When I met them there was not pronouns told, mainly because it was rather obvious which pronouns they wanted.

[Shrillland]

Transwoman here. I have literally never heard of people introducing themselves by stating their pronouns. Pins/badges with their pronouns on them, yes. Introduction with pronouns, no.

You don't go to a lot of performance art put on by collectives.

The last one I saw a friend was in they not only gave pronouns but started their presentation recognizing the tribe that was on the land the performance was taking place on. And that was not what the performance was about.

On the other hand I learned a co-worker I had been working with for well over a year had different pronouns when Facebook called him a he. So, I imagine it varies. And people in art collectives are...extra. (bonus points, as far as I could tell none of them weren't using pronouns different than their assigned sex at birth...like I said, extra.)

Damn...I'm more used to seeing that in the Commonwealth countries, not so much here.

[Thermodolia]

You don't go to a lot of performance art put on by collectives.

The last one I saw a friend was in they not only gave pronouns but started their presentation recognizing the tribe that was on the land the performance was taking place on. And that was not what the performance was about.

On the other hand I learned a co-worker I had been working with for well over a year had different pronouns when Facebook called him a he. So, I imagine it varies. And people in art collectives are...extra. (bonus points, as far as I could tell none of them weren't using pronouns different than their assigned sex at birth...like I said, extra.)

Damn...I'm more used to seeing that in the Commonwealth countries, not so much here.

Art collectives are…. interesting

[Cannot think of a name]

I will agree with you on this. I wish some in the party would drop the I must be offended by every little thing and what someones pronouns are and drop the anti police rhetoric. Start focusing on real issues like the environment, the economy and inflation.

So let's see if I'm getting this write *checks my notes* the Democrats need to be anti-union, anti-trans, and pro-police brutality. Am I getting this right?

He's a Democrat from 1992, the ones who lost 49 of 50 states in 84 and only got 111 electoral votes in 1988 and decided that in order to be in office they had to be more like Republicans and blame their loses on insurgency candidates...you know, the ones who gave us super delegates. The ones who gave us welfare reform by gutting it and three strikes rules/mandatory sentencing and DOMA and "don't ask/don't tell."

[Cannot think of a name]

You don't go to a lot of performance art put on by collectives.

The last one I saw a friend was in they not only gave pronouns but started their presentation recognizing the tribe that was on the land the performance was taking place on. And that was not what the performance was about.

On the other hand I learned a co-worker I had been working with for well over a year had different pronouns when Facebook called him a he. So, I imagine it varies. And people in art collectives are...extra. (bonus points, as far as I could tell none of them weren't using pronouns different than their assigned sex at birth...like I said, extra.)

I work with a lot of trans people. I think there are 4-5 that I know of in my workplace. When I met them there was not pronouns told, mainly because it was rather obvious which pronouns they wanted.

When I found out my friend's pronouns I also realized how little I actually used pronouns of people I know.

Also I accidently put him on the spot. I asked the people who knew him well if I had been misgendering him and they all kinda shrugged and then, at a production meeting he kind of sheepishly told us he prefers he/him.

Damn...I'm more used to seeing that in the Commonwealth countries, not so much here.

Art collectives are…. interesting

I find they are both not as goofy as they're portrayed in common media and waaaaaaaaay weirder than they are portrayed in common media.

Whatever. Someone has to be promote experimental art so if I have to put up with a nearly cartoonish adherence to your pejoritive of choice for people trying to be aware, its fine.

[Forsher]

Damn...I'm more used to seeing that in the Commonwealth countries, not so much here.

The hot thing these days is being "gifted" place names.

[Ngelmish]

So let's see if I'm getting this write *checks my notes* the Democrats need to be anti-union, anti-trans, and pro-police brutality. Am I getting this right?

He's a Democrat from 1992, the ones who lost 49 of 50 states in 84 and only got 111 electoral votes in 1988 and decided that in order to be in office they had to be more like Republicans and blame their loses on insurgency candidates...you know, the ones who gave us super delegates. The ones who gave us welfare reform by gutting it and three strikes rules/mandatory sentencing and DOMA and "don't ask/don't tell."

I mean, with the single exception of Barrack Obama (whose appeal was predicated on having establishment support even though he was a rebel), "insurgency" candidates have always flamed out.

Unless we want to sing the praises of Jimmy Carter I guess.

[Mountains and Volcanoes]

Damn...I'm more used to seeing that in the Commonwealth countries, not so much here.

Art collectives are…. interesting

Time to aggravate conservatives: Postmodern Art is A-tier!

[Shrillland]

Damn...I'm more used to seeing that in the Commonwealth countries, not so much here.

The hot thing these days is being "gifted" place names.

They can go ahead. My town's named for a Christian devotional book from the 1830s, an Illini or Kickapoo name would spruce things up.

[Forsher]

The hot thing these days is being "gifted" place names.

They can go ahead. My town's named for a Christian devotional book from the 1830s, an Illini or Kickapoo name would spruce things up.

Well, there is that but that's not really a Thing (here, anyway) though maybe it's nibbling around the edges of the Overton Window. I'm talking more about for things that don't exist yet like street names or train stations (the quote is in the pdf that you could download):

A Mana Whenua Forum of six iwi gifted the names based on their connection to the wider cultural landscape.

One of these specific names was rejected for being, essentially, too inaccurate a description of where the train station will be.

[Vassenor]

I do wonder if some of the dislike of land acknowledgement is less because it seems ridiculous and more because phrasing it as "stolen land acknowledgement" means it conflicts with the settler mythology the conservatives built where everything was sunshine and rainbows and the indigenous peoples welcomed the settlers with open arms.

[Umeria]

He's a Democrat from 1992, the ones who lost 49 of 50 states in 84 and only got 111 electoral votes in 1988 and decided that in order to be in office they had to be more like Republicans and blame their loses on insurgency candidates...you know, the ones who gave us super delegates. The ones who gave us welfare reform by gutting it and three strikes rules/mandatory sentencing and DOMA and "don't ask/don't tell."

I mean, with the single exception of Barrack Obama (whose appeal was predicated on having establishment support even though he was a rebel), "insurgency" candidates have always flamed out.

Unless we want to sing the praises of Jimmy Carter I guess.

That probably has more to do with the label "insurgent" than the actual agenda. I bet a candidate with popular policies who portrayed the current admin as the out of touch radicals would do pretty well.

[Prima Scriptura]

So let's see if I'm getting this write *checks my notes* the Democrats need to be anti-union, anti-trans, and pro-police brutality. Am I getting this right?

He's a Democrat from 1992, the ones who lost 49 of 50 states in 84 and only got 111 electoral votes in 1988 and decided that in order to be in office they had to be more like Republicans and blame their loses on insurgency candidates...you know, the ones who gave us super delegates. The ones who gave us welfare reform by gutting it and three strikes rules/mandatory sentencing and DOMA and "don't ask/don't tell."

Walter Mondale was a leftist

[Great Heathen Air Force]

Transwoman here. I have literally never heard of people introducing themselves by stating their pronouns. Pins/badges with their pronouns on them, yes. Introduction with pronouns, no.

I have. But only because I play D&D.

It's also the only time I've heard people introducing themselves by their race or class.

Though that might be a fun thing to start doing, "Hello, I am a Lvl. 9 Nordic Proletariat."

[American Legionaries]

Transwoman here. I have literally never heard of people introducing themselves by stating their pronouns. Pins/badges with their pronouns on them, yes. Introduction with pronouns, no.

I have. But only because I play D&D.

It's also the only time I've heard people introducing themselves by their race or class.

Though that might be a fun thing to start doing, "Hello, I am a Lvl. 9 Nordic Proletariat."

Pretty sure you're supposed to be higher level than that to post on NSG.

[Umeria]

He's a Democrat from 1992, the ones who lost 49 of 50 states in 84 and only got 111 electoral votes in 1988 and decided that in order to be in office they had to be more like Republicans and blame their loses on insurgency candidates...you know, the ones who gave us super delegates. The ones who gave us welfare reform by gutting it and three strikes rules/mandatory sentencing and DOMA and "don't ask/don't tell."

Walter Mondale was a leftist

Herbert Hoover was right wing.

We could play this game all night

[Finalis]

Hey man, you can act out whatever fantasy you want, they're your dolls.

It is fantasy but its also the reality of the world. You would not win a primary or general after actions and comments like that no matter who in touch with the people you think you are.

i genuinely cannot think of anyone who would support you outside of (maybe) the metropolitan elite who don't like those dirty essential workers getting uppity

[Finalis]

settlers were pretty cool, not gonna lie

[Prima Scriptura]

Walter Mondale was a leftist

Herbert Hoover was right wing.

We could play this game all night

I mean, yeah. Hoover was a laissez fare right winger

[Umeria]

Herbert Hoover was right wing.

We could play this game all night

I mean, yeah. Hoover was a laissez fare right winger

My point is that "X candidate had Y ideology and lost" can be said for literally any ideology.

[Emotional Support Crocodile]

Do people suppose the rumors are true that Donald Trump is struggling to find many good lawyers to represent him as of late, because of his history of not paying them and not obeying sound legal advice and being a difficult client? There are some lawyers who've worked for him that got screwed over, so any new prospective legal professionals are allegedly turning him down because he's perceived to not be worthwhile so far as benefiting them any.

A stable genius like him should award himself a law degree from Trump University and represent himself. It would be hilarious.

[Forsher]

I do wonder if some of the dislike of land acknowledgement is less because it seems ridiculous and more because phrasing it as "stolen land acknowledgement" means it conflicts with the settler mythology the conservatives built where everything was sunshine and rainbows and the indigenous peoples welcomed the settlers with open arms.

The performance art anecdote that started this I obviously didn't see, but I can't imagine that it was anything other than an extremely earnest (in the worst possible way) spiel from an outsider, probably including a best attempt at a relevant local language bit (or, if they're particularly ambitious, entirely in said language). Unless you're a tourist looking to experience a foreign culture in the same way you'd go to the zoo to experience a lion, would you be into it?

[Angola 3]

I don’t think GMS supports striking either.

he hasn't been told what to support yet

troll alt spotted /skipme

[Greater Miami Shores 3]

In an election between you and me I’d win.

I would actually think about voting GMS before I vote for you Lumen. It would have to be that bad for you to get my vote.

Thank You, Ulajhan - Viva El Presidente - GMS.