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Who do you think will win come November?

Republicans in Both Houses
41
30%
Republican House, Democratic Senate
57
42%
Democratic House, Republican Senate
12
9%
Democrats in Both Houses
26
19%
 
Total votes : 136

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Prima Scriptura
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Postby Prima Scriptura » Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:00 pm

Shrillland wrote:
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Are you of Lebanese descent?


That's a cedar on the Lebanese flag.


It belongs to the pine family

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Postby Shrillland » Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:03 pm

Prima Scriptura wrote:
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That's a cedar on the Lebanese flag.


It belongs to the pine family

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cedrus_libani


Sir, you are technically correct, the best kind of correct.
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:26 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Ulajhan wrote:I would actually think about voting GMS before I vote for you Lumen. It would have to be that bad for you to get my vote.


National states isn't real life and in a primary or possible general between me and Tarsonis I would win if they were the incumbent mayor or Governor That quote of "You'll have to deal with power outages and food shortages while the union works out their issues with management. I will be sending pizza to them in solitary and so should you " would be an ad blasted all over the state.

There would be ads showing the suffering and I would defeat him in landslide.

You couldn’t even win a vote in NSG, how the fuck are you gonna win a primary between you and Tars?

Besides if just run against you and beat ya in the general anyway.
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:27 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
Hey man, you can act out whatever fantasy you want, they're your dolls.


It is fantasy but its also the reality of the world. You would not win a primary or general after actions and comments like that no matter who in touch with the people you think you are.

Dude you’ve said you don’t care if half of humanity dies and you’ve supported killing 50% of humanity to save the planet. You’d be roasted in an election
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:27 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
National states isn't real life and in a primary or possible general between me and Tarsonis I would win if they were the incumbent mayor or Governor That quote of "You'll have to deal with power outages and food shortages while the union works out their issues with management. I will be sending pizza to them in solitary and so should you " would be an ad blasted all over the state.

There would be ads showing the suffering and I would defeat him in landslide.

You couldn’t even win a vote in NSG, how the fuck are you gonna win a primary between you and Tars?

Besides if just run against you and beat ya in the general anyway.


NSG isn’t real life and neither is Reddit, Facebook or Twitter. Your a wannabe dictator. I’d win over you.
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Thermodolia
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:28 pm

Tarsonis wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
It is fantasy but its also the reality of the world. You would not win a primary or general after actions and comments like that no matter who in touch with the people you think you are.


I dunno, I won most people in the thread, I'm sure I can win others. Specially when I reframe the discussion as helping average everyday kickassachussetsians defend themselves against the Deep State Corporate cabal and the Democratic party. I can think of about 15 states I'd win on that platform alone.

Plus your a veteran and that gets votes by itself
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Postby Kannap » Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:28 pm

Shrillland wrote:
Prima Scriptura wrote:
It belongs to the pine family

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cedrus_libani


Sir, you are technically correct, the best kind of correct.


Objection, cedars are - in fact - part of the "pine family" (Pinaceae), so are hemlocks, firs, spruces, and pines. Cedar trees and pine trees both belong in the Pinaceae family (in two different subfamilies, for that matter).

And if we follow this thread trail back to where it begins (emphasis mine):

Prima Scriptura wrote:
American Legionaries wrote:
Ngl, pine tree flag, best flag.


Are you of Lebanese descent?


Then we find that Prima is not correct, technically or otherwise because cedars =/= pine trees :p
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:31 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:You couldn’t even win a vote in NSG, how the fuck are you gonna win a primary between you and Tars?

Besides if just run against you and beat ya in the general anyway.


NSG isn’t real life and neither is Reddit, Facebook or Twitter. Your a wannabe dictator. I’d win over you.

You’ve literally called humanity a virus. You’ve advocated for the death of 50% of humanity. You support firing workers who strike, you’ve dissed union benefits, you’ve openly supported keeping people working without pay, etc.

I’ll just run as the combat vet who’s trying to fight the deep state from firing the working class Americans and turning them into slaves.

I’d win hands down
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San Lumen
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:33 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
NSG isn’t real life and neither is Reddit, Facebook or Twitter. Your a wannabe dictator. I’d win over you.

You’ve literally called humanity a virus. You’ve advocated for the death of 50% of humanity. You support firing workers who strike, you’ve dissed union benefits, you’ve openly supported keeping people working without pay, etc.

I’ll just run as the combat vet who’s trying to fight the deep state from firing the working class Americans and turning them into slaves.

I’d win hands down


You and I will never run against each other and if I ever ran for office I wouldn’t make it known here.

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Picairn
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Postby Picairn » Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:33 pm

Ulajhan wrote:
San Lumen wrote:In an election between you and me I’d win.

I would actually think about voting GMS before I vote for you Lumen. It would have to be that bad for you to get my vote.

I'd rather tear my vote than to vote for either of them, a Trumpist machine or a union-hating neoliberal.
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Postby Kannap » Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:34 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:You couldn’t even win a vote in NSG, how the fuck are you gonna win a primary between you and Tars?

Besides if just run against you and beat ya in the general anyway.


NSG isn’t real life and neither is Reddit, Facebook or Twitter. Your a wannabe dictator. I’d win over you.


As much as I find hilariously bad this pissing contest over an imaginary world you've fantasized up, what's the point of all this?
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:34 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:You’ve literally called humanity a virus. You’ve advocated for the death of 50% of humanity. You support firing workers who strike, you’ve dissed union benefits, you’ve openly supported keeping people working without pay, etc.

I’ll just run as the combat vet who’s trying to fight the deep state from firing the working class Americans and turning them into slaves.

I’d win hands down


You and I will never run against each other and if I ever ran for office I wouldn’t make it known here.

Again we all know your real name, it’s really not hard for anyone to do a quick search of candidates in NY with your name.
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:36 pm

Kannap wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
NSG isn’t real life and neither is Reddit, Facebook or Twitter. Your a wannabe dictator. I’d win over you.


As much as I find hilariously bad this pissing contest over an imaginary world you've fantasized up, what's the point of all this?

It’s all because Tars said that if he was ever a mayor/governor he’d support the unions and workers. And Lumen thinks that Tars would lose because of it
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:37 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
You and I will never run against each other and if I ever ran for office I wouldn’t make it known here.

Again we all know your real name, it’s really not hard for anyone to do a quick search of candidates in NY with your name.


None of you are going to do that because there is no way you think about me that much.
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Postby Kannap » Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:38 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Kannap wrote:
As much as I find hilariously bad this pissing contest over an imaginary world you've fantasized up, what's the point of all this?

It’s all because Tars said that if he was ever a mayor/governor he’d support the unions and workers. And Lumen thinks that Tars would lose because of it


Looks like Dems aren't the ones to take advice from lately on how to win. Maybe they ought to change up their playbook and unapologetically and radically support unions and working class Americans.
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Postby Prima Scriptura » Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:50 pm

Kannap wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:It’s all because Tars said that if he was ever a mayor/governor he’d support the unions and workers. And Lumen thinks that Tars would lose because of it


Looks like Dems aren't the ones to take advice from lately on how to win. Maybe they ought to change up their playbook and unapologetically and radically support unions and working class Americans.


I mean, Republicans are doing a good job of pretending they care about the working class. Lots of the working class hates the woke shit though
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:52 pm

Prima Scriptura wrote:
Kannap wrote:
Looks like Dems aren't the ones to take advice from lately on how to win. Maybe they ought to change up their playbook and unapologetically and radically support unions and working class Americans.


I mean, Republicans are doing a good job of pretending they care about the working class. Lots of the working class hates the woke shit though


I will agree with you on this. I wish some in the party would drop the I must be offended by every little thing and what someones pronouns are and drop the anti police rhetoric. Start focusing on real issues like the environment, the economy and inflation.

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Postby Great Heathen Air Force » Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:52 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:You’ve literally called humanity a virus. You’ve advocated for the death of 50% of humanity. You support firing workers who strike, you’ve dissed union benefits, you’ve openly supported keeping people working without pay, etc.

I’ll just run as the combat vet who’s trying to fight the deep state from firing the working class Americans and turning them into slaves.

I’d win hands down


You and I will never run against each other and if I ever ran for office I wouldn’t make it known here.

I should hope not. Your post history would doom your campaign.
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:53 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Again we all know your real name, it’s really not hard for anyone to do a quick search of candidates in NY with your name.


None of you are going to do that because there is no way you think about me that much.

I wouldn’t, because I don’t care but I wouldn’t bet against someone leaking all of your posts to the media
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:54 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
None of you are going to do that because there is no way you think about me that much.

I wouldn’t, because I don’t care but I wouldn’t bet against someone leaking all of your posts to the media


I doubt anyone would since I would not make it known here I was running.

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Postby Kannap » Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:54 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Prima Scriptura wrote:
I mean, Republicans are doing a good job of pretending they care about the working class. Lots of the working class hates the woke shit though


I will agree with you on this. I wish some in the party would drop the I must be offended by every little thing and what someones pronouns are and drop the anti police rhetoric. Start focusing on real issues like the environment, the economy and inflation.


So let's see if I'm getting this write *checks my notes* the Democrats need to be anti-union, anti-trans, and pro-police brutality. Am I getting this right?
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Postby Luminesa » Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:55 pm

Okay so talking about doxxing three pages in.

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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:55 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Prima Scriptura wrote:
I mean, Republicans are doing a good job of pretending they care about the working class. Lots of the working class hates the woke shit though


I will agree with you on this. I wish some in the party would drop the I must be offended by every little thing and what someones pronouns are and drop the anti police rhetoric. Start focusing on real issues like the environment, the economy and inflation.

Anti police is actually gaining more support. Recently in a Phoenix suburb a bunch of parents stormed a police line in front of a school after there was a report of a school shooter.

The would be shooter was captured but Uvalde has severely damaged the image most Americans had about police and now many are not trusting them.

The democrats would be stupid to give that up
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Postby Prima Scriptura » Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:56 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Prima Scriptura wrote:
I mean, Republicans are doing a good job of pretending they care about the working class. Lots of the working class hates the woke shit though


I will agree with you on this. I wish some in the party would drop the I must be offended by every little thing and what someones pronouns are and drop the anti police rhetoric. Start focusing on real issues like the environment, the economy and inflation.


Your attitude isn’t helping either. Essential workers deserve to be paid fairly and not work excess hours. Nurses are on strike in MN because of these reasons, and after dealing with the pandemic, they deserve a fair raise. We are already extremely under staffed at our hospitals.
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:56 pm

Kannap wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
I will agree with you on this. I wish some in the party would drop the I must be offended by every little thing and what someones pronouns are and drop the anti police rhetoric. Start focusing on real issues like the environment, the economy and inflation.


So let's see if I'm getting this write *checks my notes* the Democrats need to be anti-union, anti-trans, and pro-police brutality. Am I getting this right?


I did not say they should be anti trans. I fully support trans rights but drop this idea of idea of introducing yourself with my pronouns are. No one I know does that.

I never said pro police brutality. You can talk about police reform without mentioning defunding it and get people to support you.

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