How could we fix incelibacy? Can we?

[The United Penguin Commonwealth]

Also the fact that OP seems to think women are some sort of alien hive mind which all share the same personality, culture, politics, etc.

The content women consume is pretty much homogenic, and so are their views. Turn on the TV and put a drama show? Feminism. Women's most preffered content creators, such as Chad Chad, Danny Gonzales and Bo Burnham? Feminists. The people women vote for? Feminists. How am I supposed to assume you aren't homogenous if you get influenced by homogeneous people?

yeah, if you look at a specific group of women in America who all have similar interests, they all have similar interests. you're mistakenly extrapolating the personalities of women you've met to literally every woman everywhere. it's like if I assumed all men like pro wrestling and drink Buzz lite beer because I met two men who did. maybe if you actually tried talking to people, it'd be easier to understand that they're not the same.

also, in what world is Bo Burnham a major figure and how do I get to that world?

[Laka Strolistandiler]

The "blackpill" is that you're not trying. YOU CAN GET MONEY AND GET A WIFE. ALL YOU HAVE TO IS APPLY YOURSELF AND GET A PASSPORT.

A) What about people who already live in third world countries?
B) what about those who seek love but not basically purchasing a surrogate of love? The moment you’ll face any financial problems such “wife” will pack their things and leave. Not that I want to have kids, but if I did it’s extremely likely that she’d also get them too.

[Saiwania]

As stated above, I live in a third world, in poorusque (Russia). I cannot escape poverty by moving into an even shitter place because there societal norms are likely to be even more conservative. As stated before me countless times, you simply cannot buy love.

Money can't buy love, but it can make it much easier. Lots of gold diggers out there, and who cares if someone is truly into you or not- if you're rich enough to live as you want anyways? The reality is that to escape poverty anywhere, you have to become more valuable than the average person. The only thing that changes in moving to a richer country is that the default standard of living might be higher. You'll still be poor if objectively speaking, you don't know anything valuable or don't have some in demand skill that people are willing to spend lots of money on.

[Forever Indomitable]

The "blackpill" is that you're not trying. YOU CAN GET MONEY AND GET A WIFE. ALL YOU HAVE TO IS APPLY YOURSELF AND GET A PASSPORT.

Where tf do I get money? The money I have literally devalues by the day, my family is struggling not to have to consume what we have saved in order to reach the next paycheck. What am I supposed to do? Sell drugs?

If that's all you can do, then fucking do it. This life won't hand you shit if you're not born into it. You have to go make it for yourself. Trust me on that one.

[Kernen]

The "blackpill" is that you're not trying. YOU CAN GET MONEY AND GET A WIFE. ALL YOU HAVE TO IS APPLY YOURSELF AND GET A PASSPORT.

Where tf do I get money? The money I have literally devalues by the day, my family is struggling not to have to consume what we have saved in order to reach the next paycheck. What am I supposed to do? Sell drugs?

Have a valuable skill.

[Laka Strolistandiler]

As stated above, I live in a third world, in poorusque (Russia). I cannot escape poverty by moving into an even shitter place because there societal norms are likely to be even more conservative. As stated before me countless times, you simply cannot buy love.

Lol, nobody gives a fuck about "social norms" when you have money. There are plenty of big African cities to open a business in and keep your head down in. Fuck love, at least you won't be alone. Bro, I've had sex many times and have never been in love. Love isn't everything.

That’s a thing- if I wanted only sex I’d pay off a hooker around 2000₽ and be satisfied for about two weeks. I consider myself to be partially incel because “buying my way out” is not solving the problem but rather applying band-aids to an open bone fracture- it will fix something but in the long run nothing is going to be fixed.

[The United Penguin Commonwealth]

and how do you know they dislike the way you look?

I have investigated the common traits women find unattractive in men, such as height, jawline sharpness, eye size, etc. Most of them apply in negative towards me. I have also gone on several websites designed to rate people's attractiveness, and got a solid 3.5 in most of them except some falty AI from the early 2010s. Also you just know sometimes.

jesus h. christ in a taxicab, you're predicating all your sexist incel bullshit on some website somebody made in like five minutes that said you're unattractive?

[Laka Strolistandiler]

As stated above, I live in a third world, in poorusque (Russia). I cannot escape poverty by moving into an even shitter place because there societal norms are likely to be even more conservative. As stated before me countless times, you simply cannot buy love.

Money can't buy love, but it can make it much easier. Lots of gold diggers out there, and who cares if someone is truly into you or not- if you're rich enough to live as you want anyways? The reality is that to escape poverty anywhere, you have to become more valuable than the average person. The only thing that changes in moving to a richer country is that the default standard of living might be higher. You'll still be poor if objectively speaking, you don't know anything valuable or don't have some in demand skill that people are willing to spend lots of money on.

Heh, I’d never be at the amount of money gold diggers seek, and to allow such a leech to exist off me would be worse than below me. After all, remnants of my once old-fashioned and somewhat Christian morals are still there and I don’t want to let go of them.

[The United Penguin Commonwealth]

Where tf do I get money? The money I have literally devalues by the day, my family is struggling not to have to consume what we have saved in order to reach the next paycheck. What am I supposed to do? Sell drugs?

Have a valuable skill.

of course.

> be poor
> ???
> have a profitable skill
> ???
> be rich and successful

[Kernen]

Have a valuable skill.

of course.

> be poor
> ???
> have a profitable skill
> ???
> be rich and successful

It worked for me. When I was born, I owned nothing. Not even clothing. Look at me now!

[Forever Indomitable]

The "blackpill" is that you're not trying. YOU CAN GET MONEY AND GET A WIFE. ALL YOU HAVE TO IS APPLY YOURSELF AND GET A PASSPORT.

A) What about people who already live in third world countries?
B) what about those who seek love but not basically purchasing a surrogate of love? The moment you’ll face any financial problems such “wife” will pack their things and leave. Not that I want to have kids, but if I did it’s extremely likely that she’d also get them too.

A) You're not that disadvantaged and you've revealed it.
B) Love is a luxury. It's better to at least have companionship.
C) You might just learn to love, even if the relationship starts with you as a provider.

Look at what I'm telling you and Argentina:

You can stay on your paths and will assuredly die alone and miserable.

OR

You can go out into the big bad world and try to make something for yourselves. It might not be exactly what's in your fantasy, but it's damn sure more than what you'd end up with if you don't try.

[The United Penguin Commonwealth]

Money can't buy love, but it can make it much easier. Lots of gold diggers out there, and who cares if someone is truly into you or not- if you're rich enough to live as you want anyways?

what's the point of getting married if it's not a loving relationship?

[Kernen]

Money can't buy love, but it can make it much easier. Lots of gold diggers out there, and who cares if someone is truly into you or not- if you're rich enough to live as you want anyways?

what's the point of getting married if it's not a loving relationship?

Inheritance, second income, and tax breaks.

[Incel Argentina]

I have investigated the common traits women find unattractive in men, such as height, jawline sharpness, eye size, etc. Most of them apply in negative towards me. I have also gone on several websites designed to rate people's attractiveness, and got a solid 3.5 in most of them except some falty AI from the early 2010s. Also you just know sometimes.

jesus h. christ in a taxicab, you're predicating all your sexist incel bullshit on some website somebody made in like five minutes that said you're unattractive?

If it says that I'm unattractive it's likely true. They tend to inflate upwards not downwards.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Money can't buy love, but it can make it much easier. Lots of gold diggers out there, and who cares if someone is truly into you or not- if you're rich enough to live as you want anyways?

what's the point of getting married if it's not a loving relationship?

A lot of incels are virgins who just want to get laid.

[Saiwania]

Where tf do I get money? The money I have literally devalues by the day, my family is struggling not to have to consume what we have saved in order to reach the next paycheck. What am I supposed to do? Sell drugs?

If that's all you can do, then fucking do it. This life won't hand you shit if you're not born into it. You have to go make it for yourself. Trust me on that one.

Illegal drugs aren't the way, think about the people who're killed/hurt in the process. Pablo Escobar was the most financially successful criminal of all time in the short term, but still met a bad end; asides from getting 6,000+ people killed from his actions.

[Forever Indomitable]

jesus h. christ in a taxicab, you're predicating all your sexist incel bullshit on some website somebody made in like five minutes that said you're unattractive?

If it says that I'm unattractive it's likely true. They tend to inflate upwards not downwards.

Stop with this shit and go get a fucking job.

[Laka Strolistandiler]

A) You're not that disadvantaged and you've revealed it.
B) Love is a luxury. It's better to at least have companionship.
C) You might just learn to love, even if the relationship starts with you as a provider.

Look at what I'm telling you and Argentina:

You can stay on your paths and will assuredly die alone and miserable.

OR

You can go out into the big bad world and try to make something for yourselves. It might not be exactly what's in your fantasy, but it's damn sure more than what you'd end up with if you don't try.

I’d rather die alone than spend my whole life chasing illusional targets purported by society in which I don’t belong only to marry a glorified hooker, create someone whose life will be more miserable than mine (children born in golddigger marriages do VERY poorly).
Also this (below arrow)

what's the point of getting married if it's not a loving relationship?

[Laka Strolistandiler]

A lot of incels are virgins who just want to get laid.

Bruh half of the “incels” in this thread (me because I suppose I do count as one correct me if I’m wrong) have already told you that purely physical sex is something we don’t seek can you please stop making this point

[Kernen]

It's still not clear to me why, even if incelibacy is a problem, it requires a solution when it appears to offer its own resolution.

[Necroghastia]

I’ve done all what was advised to me by you, parents, school teachers, pshyciatrists both in school and in uni, the local priest, self-help books and stuff. There are things that can’t be fixed and people that shouldn’ve been born

This is literally THE blackpill. The entire concept of it.

Ah, there's another thing that can help incels. Stop with the pill schtick.

Also the fact that OP seems to think women are some sort of alien hive mind which all share the same personality, culture, politics, etc.

The content women consume is pretty much homogenic, and so are their views.

The content I consume and the views I espouse could not be more different from my mother's to use an anecdotal example. If there's that much variation within a single family I assure you you have no idea what you are talking about.

Turn on the TV and put a drama show? Feminism.

wat

Women's most preffered content creators, such as Chad Chad, Danny Gonzales and Bo Burnham? Feminists.

There are around 4 billion women on the planet. Two of those are youtubers, one has 1.35 million subs and the other has 5.58 mill.

Those numbers are not remotely comparable lmfao where are you getting this info

The people women vote for? Feminists.

Even if that was true, do you know how many different opinions there are on what "feminism" constitutes? Is being pro-life feminist? TERFs? SWERFs?

How am I supposed to assume you aren't homogenous if you get influenced by homogeneous people?

Because we aren't lmfao

I thought it was pretty easy to assume you just think everyone will lie to your face about your looks.

Because they will. If a random ugly guy went towards you and asked if they are ugly, would you tell them?

See, there's another thing. Why care about what some rando thinks of your looks? Honestly if that happened I would look for an exit, in what world is going up to strangers and asking if you are ugly a thing that isn't on its own just super awkward at best?

[Forever Indomitable]

A) You're not that disadvantaged and you've revealed it.
B) Love is a luxury. It's better to at least have companionship.
C) You might just learn to love, even if the relationship starts with you as a provider.

Look at what I'm telling you and Argentina:

You can stay on your paths and will assuredly die alone and miserable.

OR

You can go out into the big bad world and try to make something for yourselves. It might not be exactly what's in your fantasy, but it's damn sure more than what you'd end up with if you don't try.

I’d rather die alone than spend my whole life chasing illusional targets purported by society in which I don’t belong only to marry a glorified hooker, create someone whose life will be more miserable than mine (children born in golddigger marriages do VERY poorly).
Also this (below arrow)

what's the point of getting married if it's not a loving relationship?

You don't know what kind of relationship you'll end up with because you haven't even tried, dummy.

[Saiwania]

A lot of incels are virgins who just want to get laid.

Sometimes people just need or want a means to "get that over with" and move on to the next milestone.

[The United Penguin Commonwealth]

jesus h. christ in a taxicab, you're predicating all your sexist incel bullshit on some website somebody made in like five minutes that said you're unattractive?

If it says that I'm unattractive it's likely true. They tend to inflate upwards not downwards.

a) your dataset being?
b) attractiveness is subjective, and not something some AI can gauge.
b1) idk how you would even try to train an AI to measure something as vague as "attractiveness". at best it would be only an incredibly rough rating, at worst it would be a reflection of the creator's personal biases.
c) physical attractiveness is only part of the equation, and often not a major part. more important is your actual personality. that seems to be where you're failing. I'm no relationship guide, but I can tell you moping around about how women aren't lining up to have sex with you is not exactly a winning activity.
d) your goal in life shouldn't be sex. I don't know why I have to point that out, but apparently I do.

[Laka Strolistandiler]

You don't know what kind of relationship you'll end up with because you haven't even tried, dummy.

Ah yes, the perfect solution- work for 15-20 years to open up a kinder egg that may or may not fuck up your life (latter one more likely), what a great idea!