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by Orostan » Mon Jul 11, 2022 3:42 am
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by Tracian Empire » Mon Jul 11, 2022 12:37 pm
The V O I D wrote:Full Nation Name: Das Österreichisch-Bayerische Reich, or in English, the Austro-Bavarian Realm, is also rendered occasionally as Das Vereinigte Königreich Österreich und Bayern, or the United Kingdom of Austria and Bavaria; Österreich-Bayern, or Austria-Bavaria, is also acceptable.
This is heavily WIP still, might need help further developing it. Thoughts on what's there so far are welcome.
by New Luciannova » Mon Jul 11, 2022 2:00 pm
by New Luciannova » Mon Jul 11, 2022 2:03 pm
by Tracian Empire » Mon Jul 11, 2022 2:40 pm
New Luciannova wrote:Sorry, should have checked the rules. I'm a law student taking summer courses. This is my last week of classes so I should have something done after this week is concluded.Reservation
Nation Name: Poland
Territory: Poland and Hungary
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by New Luciannova » Mon Jul 11, 2022 5:10 pm
by Tracian Empire » Tue Jul 12, 2022 4:56 am
New Luciannova wrote:Full Nation Name: Polish Commonwealth
Majority/Official Culture: The people identify as Polish, although a number of people have other identities (Galician, Prussian, Hungarian, Russian, Czech, Bohemian, Hungarian, Ukrianian, Lithuanian, and Jewish.
Territorial Core: All of modern-day Poland and Czechloslovakia that hasn't already been claimed by a pre-accepted nation.
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by Pasong Tirad » Tue Jul 12, 2022 8:08 am
by The V O I D » Tue Jul 12, 2022 9:23 am
Tracian Empire wrote:The V O I D wrote:Full Nation Name: Das Österreichisch-Bayerische Reich, or in English, the Austro-Bavarian Realm, is also rendered occasionally as Das Vereinigte Königreich Österreich und Bayern, or the United Kingdom of Austria and Bavaria; Österreich-Bayern, or Austria-Bavaria, is also acceptable.
This is heavily WIP still, might need help further developing it. Thoughts on what's there so far are welcome.
Accepted - with an edit that I will request and a thing that I need to say.
Munich being an Archduchy is unlikely. Austria becoming an Archduchy was basically the Habsburgs leveraging their influence to go against the norms and hierarchy of the HRE and to try to put Austria on the same place as the prince-electors and particularly as the Kingdom of Bohemia, and even, it took a long while for the rest of the HRE to accept it.
It was because of the same rules and concepts that Austria did not become a Kingdom and why the Prussian monarch was King in Prussia instead of Prussia for a long while.
Now, I've assumed that it would be likely for the Habsburgs to elevate Austria to the rank of a Kingdom in order to compensate for their loss of Bohemia, and Bavaria being raised to a Kingdom also as a compensation for perhaps fully relinquishing their claims to the electorate to the Palatinate.
But Munich being raised to an Archduchy would be a bit too much. Had you not been using the United Kingdom as a name I would have also perhaps requested that Bavaria should remain a Duchy, but I don't want to force you too much - still, Munich would at the very most be a Duchy.
And the thing that I need to say is that in order to be elected, much like in real life, Ferdinand is likely to have been required to make some promises and/or negotiations in order to get elected (since the Protestants should have had a majority among the prince-electors), which is something to keep in mind for the IC.
by Tracian Empire » Tue Jul 12, 2022 9:25 am
The V O I D wrote:Tracian Empire wrote:Accepted - with an edit that I will request and a thing that I need to say.
Munich being an Archduchy is unlikely. Austria becoming an Archduchy was basically the Habsburgs leveraging their influence to go against the norms and hierarchy of the HRE and to try to put Austria on the same place as the prince-electors and particularly as the Kingdom of Bohemia, and even, it took a long while for the rest of the HRE to accept it.
It was because of the same rules and concepts that Austria did not become a Kingdom and why the Prussian monarch was King in Prussia instead of Prussia for a long while.
Now, I've assumed that it would be likely for the Habsburgs to elevate Austria to the rank of a Kingdom in order to compensate for their loss of Bohemia, and Bavaria being raised to a Kingdom also as a compensation for perhaps fully relinquishing their claims to the electorate to the Palatinate.
But Munich being raised to an Archduchy would be a bit too much. Had you not been using the United Kingdom as a name I would have also perhaps requested that Bavaria should remain a Duchy, but I don't want to force you too much - still, Munich would at the very most be a Duchy.
And the thing that I need to say is that in order to be elected, much like in real life, Ferdinand is likely to have been required to make some promises and/or negotiations in order to get elected (since the Protestants should have had a majority among the prince-electors), which is something to keep in mind for the IC.
I'll keep this mind and make a couple edits soon. I assume I'd be okay to post in the IC after making those couple edits?
by Tracian Empire » Tue Jul 12, 2022 9:26 am
Pasong Tirad wrote:Hi, sorry it's been a few days, but I've been working on my app it's just been really slow.
by Union Princes » Tue Jul 12, 2022 9:47 am
by Tracian Empire » Tue Jul 12, 2022 12:29 pm
Union Princes wrote:Is Hungary open?
by New Luciannova » Tue Jul 12, 2022 1:25 pm
by Tracian Empire » Tue Jul 12, 2022 1:27 pm
by The National Dominion of Hungary » Thu Jul 14, 2022 3:16 pm
by Tracian Empire » Thu Jul 14, 2022 3:52 pm
The National Dominion of Hungary wrote:Still kinda WIP, looking to see if something like this could be acceptable
Full Nation Name: Officially the Kingdom of Rus sometimes also called "Muscovite Rus" or "Second Rus"
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by The National Dominion of Hungary » Thu Jul 14, 2022 4:03 pm
Tracian Empire wrote:I will be properly reviewing it once it's done, but I don't see any major issues with it, and I like the concept!
If you could also make a reservation for it that would be great, procedure and all
The population does feel a bit too large. The data that I could find shows around 1,700,000 for Lithuania in 1572 so maybe a 2,000,000 or 2,500,000 in 1618 would be very generous, and you would be taking a good chunk of it, but not all of it. Your Kazkah and Nogai territories would also likely not amount to that much, so let's say 14,5 million? 15 million maybe.
by The National Dominion of Hungary » Thu Jul 14, 2022 4:04 pm
by Tracian Empire » Fri Jul 15, 2022 2:48 am
The National Dominion of Hungary wrote:Reservation
Nation Name: The Kingdom of Rus
Territory: Lands of the Rus
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by The National Dominion of Hungary » Fri Jul 15, 2022 5:21 am
Tracian Empire wrote:Reservation accepted!
by Tracian Empire » Fri Jul 15, 2022 8:12 am
The National Dominion of Hungary wrote:Full Nation Name: Officially the Kingdom of Rus sometimes also called "Muscovite Rus" or "Second Rus"
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by The National Dominion of Hungary » Fri Jul 15, 2022 2:02 pm
by Tracian Empire » Fri Jul 15, 2022 3:32 pm
by Tracian Empire » Fri Jul 15, 2022 3:33 pm
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