by Neon Lunar Eclipse » Thu Jul 07, 2022 9:54 am
by Eahland » Thu Jul 07, 2022 11:34 am
by San Lumen » Thu Jul 07, 2022 11:36 am
by Stellar Colonies » Thu Jul 07, 2022 2:09 pm
Floofybit wrote:Your desired society should be one where you are submissive and controlled
Primitive Communism wrote:What bodily autonomy do men need?
Techocracy101010 wrote:If she goes on a rampage those saggy wonders are as deadly as nunchucks
Parmistan wrote:It's not ALWAYS acceptable when we do it, but it's MORE acceptable when we do it.
Theodorable wrote:Jihad will win.
Distruzio wrote:All marriage outside the Church is gay marriage.
I try to be objective, but I do have some biases.
North Californian.
Stellar Colonies is a loose galactic confederacy.
The Confederacy & the WA.
Add 1200 years.
by Luziyca » Thu Jul 07, 2022 3:00 pm
by The Orwell Society » Thu Jul 07, 2022 3:02 pm
San Lumen wrote:There is absolutely intelligent life elsewhere in the universe. There is zero possibility in my mind this is the open planet in the entire universe to have life other than single celled organisms or plants.
I do believe we have been visited in the past and extraterrestrials choose not to reveal themselves as they don't feel we are ready.
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by The Cocon Reservation » Thu Jul 07, 2022 3:03 pm
San Lumen wrote:There is absolutely intelligent life elsewhere in the universe. There is zero possibility in my mind this is the open planet in the entire universe to have life other than single celled organisms or plants.
I do believe we have been visited in the past and extraterrestrials choose not to reveal themselves as they don't feel we are ready.
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by San Lumen » Thu Jul 07, 2022 3:26 pm
Stellar Colonies wrote:Generally suspect that very simple life is common, but complexity enough for intelligence is very rare. Than on top of that you've got body plans which don't allow for space travel at all, ones that destroy themselves, the vast majority of that small amount originating very far in space and time, so I doubt anything is close enough in either sense to be aware of us, much less send signals or visit.
by Neon Lunar Eclipse » Thu Jul 07, 2022 3:29 pm
Luziyca wrote:I believe that extraterrestrial life exists in some shape or form. Did they visit Earth? I don't think they have. Yet, at least. If any future extraterrestrials come here, then I'll definitely welcome them.
by San Lumen » Thu Jul 07, 2022 3:32 pm
by The United Penguin Commonwealth » Thu Jul 07, 2022 4:27 pm
by Washington Resistance Army » Thu Jul 07, 2022 4:28 pm
by San Lumen » Thu Jul 07, 2022 4:42 pm
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Life undeniably exists elsewhere in the universe, potentially even in our galaxy, but I do not believe interstellar civilizations exist nor have they visited earth.
by Stellar Colonies » Thu Jul 07, 2022 4:43 pm
San Lumen wrote:Stellar Colonies wrote:Generally suspect that very simple life is common, but complexity enough for intelligence is very rare. Than on top of that you've got body plans which don't allow for space travel at all, ones that destroy themselves, the vast majority of that small amount originating very far in space and time, so I doubt anything is close enough in either sense to be aware of us, much less send signals or visit.
Or maybe they are aware and chose not to reveal themselves.
San Lumen wrote:Neon Lunar Eclipse wrote:
What if they don't come in peace?
Then we are likely doomed. Any extraterrestrial race that has the means to come here is going to be extremely advanced technologically. Maybe we could pull off a counter offense like in Independence Day if we could put aside our differences and unite as one.
Floofybit wrote:Your desired society should be one where you are submissive and controlled
Primitive Communism wrote:What bodily autonomy do men need?
Techocracy101010 wrote:If she goes on a rampage those saggy wonders are as deadly as nunchucks
Parmistan wrote:It's not ALWAYS acceptable when we do it, but it's MORE acceptable when we do it.
Theodorable wrote:Jihad will win.
Distruzio wrote:All marriage outside the Church is gay marriage.
I try to be objective, but I do have some biases.
North Californian.
Stellar Colonies is a loose galactic confederacy.
The Confederacy & the WA.
Add 1200 years.
by The United Penguin Commonwealth » Thu Jul 07, 2022 4:48 pm
San Lumen wrote:Washington Resistance Army wrote:Life undeniably exists elsewhere in the universe, potentially even in our galaxy, but I do not believe interstellar civilizations exist nor have they visited earth.
what makes you think there is no interstellar civilizations? Maybe they exist but they are on the other side of the galaxy.
by Washington Resistance Army » Thu Jul 07, 2022 4:50 pm
San Lumen wrote:Washington Resistance Army wrote:Life undeniably exists elsewhere in the universe, potentially even in our galaxy, but I do not believe interstellar civilizations exist nor have they visited earth.
what makes you think there is no interstellar civilizations? Maybe they exist but they are on the other side of the galaxy.
by San Lumen » Thu Jul 07, 2022 5:05 pm
Washington Resistance Army wrote:San Lumen wrote:
what makes you think there is no interstellar civilizations? Maybe they exist but they are on the other side of the galaxy.
The sheer lack of evidence of them, in addition to the fact that faster than light travel is impossible. Such a civilization, if it existed, would be more like a vast number of different civilizations that sometimes interact with each other. Even at 0.2c it'd take decades to move from one solar system to another.
Personally, I'm a fan of the Great Filter as an answer to the Fermi Paradox. Each step along the path to interstellar colonization is unlikely in itself and few, if any, species have likely ever achieved it.
by Cannot think of a name » Thu Jul 07, 2022 5:07 pm
Eahland wrote:Given the sheer mind-boggling scope of the universe, it's highly unlikely that Earth is the only place that life, even life that we would recognize as such, has arisen. If it can happen once, it can and will have happened billions of times.
But also, given the sheer mind-boggling scope of the universe, it's unlikely that any of it is close enough for us to reasonably contact.
by Washington Resistance Army » Thu Jul 07, 2022 5:14 pm
San Lumen wrote:Washington Resistance Army wrote:
The sheer lack of evidence of them, in addition to the fact that faster than light travel is impossible. Such a civilization, if it existed, would be more like a vast number of different civilizations that sometimes interact with each other. Even at 0.2c it'd take decades to move from one solar system to another.
Personally, I'm a fan of the Great Filter as an answer to the Fermi Paradox. Each step along the path to interstellar colonization is unlikely in itself and few, if any, species have likely ever achieved it.
Maybe with our understanding of physics. What’s to say an extraterrestrial civilization isn’t thousands of years ahead of us technologically and thus have discovered how to do it?
by San Lumen » Thu Jul 07, 2022 5:16 pm
Washington Resistance Army wrote:San Lumen wrote:
Maybe with our understanding of physics. What’s to say an extraterrestrial civilization isn’t thousands of years ahead of us technologically and thus have discovered how to do it?
The lack of evidence. Where are the interstellar colonies and megastructures if there are FTL capable civilizations?
by Nevertopia » Thu Jul 07, 2022 5:32 pm
Eahland wrote:Given the sheer mind-boggling scope of the universe, it's highly unlikely that Earth is the only place that life, even life that we would recognize as such, has arisen. If it can happen once, it can and will have happened billions of times.
But also, given the sheer mind-boggling scope of the universe, it's unlikely that any of it is close enough for us to reasonably contact.
So the CCP won't let me be or let me be me so let me see, they tried to shut me down on CBC but it feels so empty without me.
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by Nevertopia » Thu Jul 07, 2022 5:33 pm
So the CCP won't let me be or let me be me so let me see, they tried to shut me down on CBC but it feels so empty without me.
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by Nevertopia » Thu Jul 07, 2022 5:40 pm
So the CCP won't let me be or let me be me so let me see, they tried to shut me down on CBC but it feels so empty without me.
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by San Lumen » Thu Jul 07, 2022 5:41 pm
Nevertopia wrote:San Lumen wrote:
Or maybe it isn’t because we haven’t discovered it yet. Many inventions and discoveries where thought to be impossible until they weren’t.
yes because they were proven possible. Saying that it might be possible in the future isn't a true argument, it MIGHT rain cats and dogs tomorrow but until you can prove it will thats not adding much to the discussion. I get what you mean that some breakthrough in the future might make it possible but the practical answer is when using our understanding of the hard sciences, you dont travel faster than the speed of light. And that just might be why the universe is so empty. Nobody makes it pass their front yard.
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