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by Tracian Empire » Sun Jul 03, 2022 2:48 pm
by Khasinkonia » Sun Jul 03, 2022 2:51 pm
Tracian Empire wrote:Map and list updated
by Arvenia » Sun Jul 03, 2022 2:56 pm
by Tracian Empire » Sun Jul 03, 2022 3:02 pm
by Tracian Empire » Sun Jul 03, 2022 3:02 pm
Arvenia wrote:Is it possible for a northern Chinese dynasty to control parts of Asian Russia?
by Arvenia » Sun Jul 03, 2022 3:24 pm
by Union Princes » Sun Jul 03, 2022 3:50 pm
by Arvenia » Sun Jul 03, 2022 4:06 pm
Union Princes wrote:Might do a united kingdom under Oliver Cromwell. A monarchy with no King
by Sao Nova Europa » Sun Jul 03, 2022 4:07 pm
Arvenia wrote:Reservation
Nation Name: Fei Dynasty
Territory: Rest of China, Mongolia, Altai Republic, Tuva Republic, Irkutsk Oblast, Amur Oblast, Zabaykalsky Oblast, Buryatia and Yakutia
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by Intermountain States » Sun Jul 03, 2022 4:08 pm
Union Princes wrote:Might do a united kingdom under Oliver Cromwell. A monarchy with no King
Lunatic Goofballs wrote:I'm a third party voter. Trust me when I say this: Not even a lifetime supply of tacos could convince me to vote for either Hillary or Trump. I suspect I'm not the only third party voter who feels that way. I cost Hillary nothing. I cost Trump nothing. If I didn't vote for third party, I would have written in 'Batman'.
If you try to blame me, I will laugh in your face. I'm glad she lost. I got half my wish. :)
by Arvenia » Sun Jul 03, 2022 4:53 pm
Sao Nova Europa wrote:Arvenia wrote:Reservation
Nation Name: Fei Dynasty
Territory: Rest of China, Mongolia, Altai Republic, Tuva Republic, Irkutsk Oblast, Amur Oblast, Zabaykalsky Oblast, Buryatia and Yakutia
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Will your dynasty be Han Chinese or Mongolian/Tatar/Jurchen/whatever?
by Reverend Norv » Sun Jul 03, 2022 8:05 pm
For really, I think that the poorest he that is in England hath a life to live as the greatest he. And therefore truly, Sir, I think it's clear that every man that is to live under a Government ought first by his own consent to put himself under that Government. And I do think that the poorest man in England is not at all bound in a strict sense to that Government that he hath not had a voice to put himself under.
Col. Thomas Rainsborough, Putney Debates, 1647
A God who let us prove His existence would be an idol.
Dietrich Bonhoeffer
by Chinniwana » Sun Jul 03, 2022 8:29 pm
by Dogutrakya » Sun Jul 03, 2022 8:45 pm
by Oscalantine » Sun Jul 03, 2022 9:41 pm
Khasinkonia wrote:Granted, Albion and I should also discuss our shared history as soon as possible, as if they should need a Norman Duchy, I'd prefer to know while my history is still hazy.
by Empire of Techkotal » Sun Jul 03, 2022 11:18 pm
Reverend Norv wrote:I am contemplating an application for the Low Countries, on the theory that they make for a plausible cradle of the Reformation in this timeline: Europe's most urbanized, wealthy, bourgeois society would be most inclined to break with the imperial Chalcedonian churches. First, though, I'd like to check whether there is any existing canon about where the Reformation emerged and when, and I'd like to inquire as to any established history of the Holy Roman Empire and the rest of Germany.
by Tracian Empire » Sun Jul 03, 2022 11:49 pm
Arvenia wrote:Reservation
Nation Name: Fei Dynasty
Territory: Rest of China, Mongolia, Altai Republic, Tuva Republic, Irkutsk Oblast, Amur Oblast, Zabaykalsky Oblast, Buryatia and Yakutia
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by Tracian Empire » Sun Jul 03, 2022 11:51 pm
Union Princes wrote:Might do a united kingdom under Oliver Cromwell. A monarchy with no King
by Tracian Empire » Mon Jul 04, 2022 12:01 am
Reverend Norv wrote:I am contemplating an application for the Low Countries, on the theory that they make for a plausible cradle of the Reformation in this timeline: Europe's most urbanized, wealthy, bourgeois society would be most inclined to break with the imperial Chalcedonian churches. First, though, I'd like to check whether there is any existing canon about where the Reformation emerged and when, and I'd like to inquire as to any established history of the Holy Roman Empire and the rest of Germany.
by Empire of Techkotal » Mon Jul 04, 2022 3:39 am
by Khasinkonia » Mon Jul 04, 2022 5:14 am
Oscalantine wrote:Khasinkonia wrote:Granted, Albion and I should also discuss our shared history as soon as possible, as if they should need a Norman Duchy, I'd prefer to know while my history is still hazy.
Granted, we SHOULD.
I... had my idea, but I wasn't sure if you were up for it. The long and short of it would be that Albion's relationship with Normandy (at least, according to what I had in mind) would start and end far earlier than IRL, leading to a quasi-100-years-war that would happen in the 1200s and stretching to 1300s and not 1300s and ending in 1400s.
The main rationale of this is that, because I am planning my divergence based upon the Bretons would fight off Saxon invasion completely under the leadership of a tribal king who would later be romanticized as King Arthur, and the resulting ramification based on Welsh-centralized British Isles. To make the history of my nation connected to the popular Arthurian tale as possible, I did elect to use this opportunity to include a person from Northern France, although he probably would NOT be Normans and the province wouldn't have been considered Normandy at the time.
From there, my story would be that this territory of northern France would belong to Albion until the William Wallace's rebellion in the 1200s, where the final large-scale Scottish challenge to Welsh conquerors would happen simultaneously with the French reconquest of its northern territories. There Albion would have to concede defeat and cede territory, which would lead to somewhat tense relationship between Albion and whoever would have France at the time.
At least, this was how I previously planned my nation. Please, if you would like, I would really like to pick and choose which part of the story you would like to place into your own history... or even give me an idea from your book, so I can bounce off of yours. Trace is putting me on a tighter leash than in last iteration (my idea, not his) and I would love to finish my historical consistencies done faster rather than later.
by Oscalantine » Mon Jul 04, 2022 5:34 am
Khasinkonia wrote:Ideally, I had intended for the Franks to be more like an invading dynasty that ruled for a few generations than something that would have established a long-term hold. Similarly, I doubt the Vikings would have received a territory like Normandy due to the way the Gaulish government is set up (Electoral Monarchy with a pseudo-prime ministry/cabinet that evolved from the secularisation of the druid class). If you’re going for a Celtic Britain. It’s plausible that one of the kings of the tribes along the Channel might have married in and pressed a claim on territory in Albion. Personally, since we’re both coincidentally going for Celts pushing back their invaders, I would be interested to see if there might be a sort of Celtic fraternity that could develop, as I was planning on Gaul having a sense of something akin to an early form of nationalism, and rather chilly relations with anything Germanic or Latin.
by Khasinkonia » Mon Jul 04, 2022 5:52 am
Oscalantine wrote:Khasinkonia wrote:Ideally, I had intended for the Franks to be more like an invading dynasty that ruled for a few generations than something that would have established a long-term hold. Similarly, I doubt the Vikings would have received a territory like Normandy due to the way the Gaulish government is set up (Electoral Monarchy with a pseudo-prime ministry/cabinet that evolved from the secularisation of the druid class). If you’re going for a Celtic Britain. It’s plausible that one of the kings of the tribes along the Channel might have married in and pressed a claim on territory in Albion. Personally, since we’re both coincidentally going for Celts pushing back their invaders, I would be interested to see if there might be a sort of Celtic fraternity that could develop, as I was planning on Gaul having a sense of something akin to an early form of nationalism, and rather chilly relations with anything Germanic or Latin.
Hmmm... I think I can work with this. How about this, dude?
1. As King Arthur consolidates his uncontested power as the "high king" of all kings of Breton (that being both in Wales and in England) as the defender of the land of Breton from Saxons, a prominent warrior from northern France comes hearing the feats of Arthur, and the two become steadfast friends in the coming years as Arthur pushes his claims towards northern Scotland and beyond. The warrior would eventually be written in the Round Table Records as "Sir Lancelot," although his actual name will be forgotten in the passage of time.
2. Since the reign of King Arthur's exploits would be around the same time as Norman invasion of Northern France, Lancelot would be compelled to return back to his home to defend his people. King Arthur, seeing this as mirroring his own past with the Saxons, joins Lancelot across the Chanel. However, Arthur was in on his years and his sword arm not as swift. While it is unknown as to which battle did him in, but Arthur dies from defending Lancelot's home from the Normans, although his body is never found. (which is what I need to start my own timeline as "acting High King" Mordred.)
From there, we can sort of have an amenable friendship. Most likely that the few generations after King Arthur's death, the relationship between Bretons and Gauls would be soured as Bretons would blame them for their High King's hiatus. However, I imagine that the relationship will become more friendly and eventually becoming friendship as the members of Lacelot's descendants who stayed in Albion will work towards amending ties with their ancestral home.
by Oscalantine » Mon Jul 04, 2022 7:22 am
Khasinkonia wrote:I like that. I think if you wanted, you could also factor in that I think Gaul could have actually been subject to something not dissimilar from the Lithuanian Crusade and/or Wendish Crusades, which might also account for the Holy Roman Empire’s current extent at the expense of the Gaul and Belgica of antiquity. In essence, I’m thinking Gaul would have remaining incompletely Christianised until some time around the beginning of the Late Medieval Period. I don’t know what the process for the Christianisation of Britain looks like, but that’s where I’m at for the time being.
by Reverend Norv » Mon Jul 04, 2022 8:26 am
For really, I think that the poorest he that is in England hath a life to live as the greatest he. And therefore truly, Sir, I think it's clear that every man that is to live under a Government ought first by his own consent to put himself under that Government. And I do think that the poorest man in England is not at all bound in a strict sense to that Government that he hath not had a voice to put himself under.
Col. Thomas Rainsborough, Putney Debates, 1647
A God who let us prove His existence would be an idol.
Dietrich Bonhoeffer
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