[ON HOLD] Repeal GA#467 "Affordable Trans HT"

[Tinhampton]

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Alexander Smith, Tinhamptonian Delegate-Ambassador to the World Assembly: Ambassador Hepperle remains neutral on this repeal, or at least he was the last time I checked in with him. And whoever the Morovian ambassador is these days just told me to "go for it" when I asked him a few hours ago. What about you?

Repeal "Affordable Transgender Hormone Therapy"
A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.

Category: Repeal

Target: GA#467

Proposed by: Tinhampton

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General Assembly Resolution #467 “Affordable Transgender Hormone Therapy” (Category: Civil Rights; Strength: Mild) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

Affirming that this repeal will neither have a negative impact on any person's rights nor weaken this body's strong support for the trans community,

Celebrating GA#467 "Affordable Transgender Hormone Therapy," for requiring that member states:

• allow their inhabitants to obtain hormone therapy with their consent, and never force it on them without their consent,
• provide their inhabitants "an affordable, easy-to-access way" to obtain hormone therapy, and
• not deny "a transgender person access to hormone therapy as a punishment,"

Noting that GA#571 "Access to Transgender Hormone Therapy" not only accomplishes all of the admirable goals of GA#467, but also provides many more important protections for trans people who receive hormone therapy, such as:

• guaranteeing that they pay no more than the relevant "manufacturing and distribution" fees for hormone therapy and face "as few barriers as possible" to obtaining it,
• preventing "any entity from denying hormone therapy" to them "except where a legitimate danger to their health would arise as a result," and
• protecting them from being coerced not to obtain, as well as to obtain, hormone therapy, and

Believing that repealing GA#467 is sensible, given that it does nothing that GA#571 does not already do...

The General Assembly hereby repeals GA#467 "Affordable Transgender Hormone Therapy."

[Tinhampton]

Preserved for past generations

[WayNeacTia]

If these arguments were true, why was #571 not declared illegal for duplication?

[Tinhampton]

If these arguments were true, why was #571 not declared illegal for duplication?

Because 571 is more comprehensive in scope than 467. I seem to recall you asking the same questions of End Conversion Therapy, which ultimately passed by some margin

[Fachumonn]

Easy enough, should sail through.

[Morover]

I'm not happy to see it go (my first resolution will always have a special place in my heart), but it has no substantive effect now and there's no harm in repealing it, though there isn't any harm in not repealing either. Tin approached me a while ago asking if I'd be okay with repeal, and my answer was essentially "wait until GA activity is a lot lower than it was [then]", so I'm okay with it. Good luck, Tin.

[Princess Rainbow Sparkles]

I'll need to closely look at all the provisions when I have time, but support in concept!

[Honeydewistania]

OOC: Yeah, no. Your arguments lie in the target resolution being redundant. This is not enough to warrant a repeal in usual circumstances in my opinion, but especially when the target is on a sensitive topic. Considering the target and your own resolution reached pages of bigotry in it's threads, I do not wish to hand transphobes the satisfaction of having this repealed when there's no good reason to. Also, if my resolution was repealed down the line, this resolution would at least still be in place. Therefore, opposed.

[Junitaki-cho]

It's pride month.

[Minskiev]

Idk 571 was unnecessary so

[West Barack and East Obama]

Idk 571 was unnecessary so

No it wasn't?

[Minskiev]

Idk 571 was unnecessary so

No it wasn't?

I distinctly remember my thoughts of it as the time. It was unnecessary bloat that masqueraded (okay masquerade isn't the perfect word but it sailed through due to its nature) as a queer rights resolution, even though there really weren't any additional protections. The two lists in this repeal are basically the same things reworded. I'm all for queer rights but it didn't do anything.

Edit: Sorry, I misremembered my resolutions. It was GA#578 that did nothing. On reflection 571 does do a smidge more.

[Anne of Cleves in TNP]

“Opposed. The overall argument essentially is that ‘resolution X having similar provisions in addition to extra provisions’, which is a weak argument. In order for a repeal to be considered as having a strong argument, in my opinion, it needs to point out actual flaws within the target resolution.”
-Ms. Charlotte Schafer, WA Ambassador for the Clevesian Empire

[Attempted Socialism]

OOC: Yeah, no. Your arguments lie in the target resolution being redundant. This is not enough to warrant a repeal in usual circumstances in my opinion, but especially when the target is on a sensitive topic. Considering the target and your own resolution reached pages of bigotry in it's threads, I do not wish to hand transphobes the satisfaction of having this repealed when there's no good reason to. Also, if my resolution was repealed down the line, this resolution would at least still be in place. Therefore, opposed.

This is a very convincing line of argument. I would need some actual wrongs, rather than just redundancy, before I would contemplate repealing these kinds of resolutions.

[Princess Rainbow Sparkles]

OOC: Yeah, no. Your arguments lie in the target resolution being redundant. This is not enough to warrant a repeal in usual circumstances in my opinion, but especially when the target is on a sensitive topic. Considering the target and your own resolution reached pages of bigotry in it's threads, I do not wish to hand transphobes the satisfaction of having this repealed when there's no good reason to. Also, if my resolution was repealed down the line, this resolution would at least still be in place. Therefore, opposed.

This is a very convincing line of argument. I would need some actual wrongs, rather than just redundancy, before I would contemplate repealing these kinds of resolutions.

I've also been convinced by this line. While I think redundant legislation is generally unnecessary, I agree that there should almost always be something more than redundancy to justify a repeal.

[Fachumonn]

It's pride month.

"Yes, and repealing this has no effect on LGBTQ+ legislation, ambassador."

[Makko Oko]

"We are 100% for the repeal of this resolution. Transgender healthcare is not allowed within the nation, and therefore, this would mean a true end to it. Even if the intentions are to pass a new, better resolution in this regard, the moment it is repealed, are the moments to savor, before we go back to barbarianism." - Makko Oko Minister Of Diplomatic Affairs Alora Hakjova

[Attempted Socialism]

"We are 100% for the repeal of this resolution. Transgender healthcare is not allowed within the nation, and therefore, this would mean a true end to it. Even if the intentions are to pass a new, better resolution in this regard, the moment it is repealed, are the moments to savor, before we go back to barbarianism." - Makko Oko Minister Of Diplomatic Affairs Alora Hakjova

Ambassador Pride: "While it's good to know that the Minister of Diplomatic Affairs of Makko Oko has the leisure time to visit the World Assembly and declare your nation's transphobia, it is perhaps not so good when that transphobia carries with it legal consequences. Can the Minister for Diplomatic Affairs perhaps explain to the Assembly how he interprets the resolution this draft targets for repeal, Resolution 571, Access to Transgender Hormone Therapy, Resolution 440, Administrative Compliance Act, as well as any number codifying healthcare standards and equal protection? What rationale has been applied to outlaw not just transgender hormone therapy, but transgender healthcare altogether?"

[The Orwell Society]

"We are 100% for the repeal of this resolution. Transgender healthcare is not allowed within the nation, and therefore, this would mean a true end to it. Even if the intentions are to pass a new, better resolution in this regard, the moment it is repealed, are the moments to savor, before we go back to barbarianism." - Makko Oko Minister Of Diplomatic Affairs Alora Hakjova

"Support for much the same reasons. Conversion therapy is as unethical as it is expensive, and we will gladly vote for if this comes to vote."

OOC: Also support.

[Chacapoya]

It's pride month.

"Yes, and repealing this has no effect on LGBTQ+ legislation, ambassador."

While that statement is arguably true, the mere presentation of this repeal, much like previous legislation in a similar vein, does nothing but invite transphobic rhetoric to the thread. Every time something like this comes through the GA, it seems to galvanize a new wave of bigotry and hatred, which the OP knows, given previous debacles she has incited! And yet it continues to occur, without fault, that a badge is given precedence over the preservation of the well-being of others.

[The Orwell Society]

"Yes, and repealing this has no effect on LGBTQ+ legislation, ambassador."

While that statement is arguably true, the mere presentation of this repeal, much like previous legislation in a similar vein, does nothing but invite transphobic rhetoric to the thread. Every time something like this comes through the GA, it seems to galvanize a new wave of bigotry and hatred, which the OP knows, given previous debacles she has incited! And yet it continues to occur, without fault, that a badge is given precedence over the preservation of the well-being of others.

There has not been a single OOC transphobic comment in this thread, if that's what you mean. As far as I know, none of the IC commenters who are in support for this resolution (including me)are actually anti-LGBTQ in real life. Don't be indirectly calling us bigots just because Tin has decided to repeal and pro-trans resolution.

[Comfed]

"We are 100% for the repeal of this resolution. Transgender healthcare is not allowed within the nation, and therefore, this would mean a true end to it. Even if the intentions are to pass a new, better resolution in this regard, the moment it is repealed, are the moments to savor, before we go back to barbarianism." - Makko Oko Minister Of Diplomatic Affairs Alora Hakjova

There is already a resolution which encompasses the effects of the target resolution. I'm sorry to rain on your transphobic parade (well, not at all sorry really) but maybe when a thread title says "READ OP!" in capital letters with an exclamation point perhaps you should do so.

[Honeydewistania]

While that statement is arguably true, the mere presentation of this repeal, much like previous legislation in a similar vein, does nothing but invite transphobic rhetoric to the thread. Every time something like this comes through the GA, it seems to galvanize a new wave of bigotry and hatred, which the OP knows, given previous debacles she has incited! And yet it continues to occur, without fault, that a badge is given precedence over the preservation of the well-being of others.

There has not been a single OOC transphobic comment in this thread, if that's what you mean. As far as I know, none of the IC commenters who are in support for this resolution (including me)are actually anti-LGBTQ in real life. Don't be indirectly calling us bigots just because Tin has decided to repeal and pro-trans resolution.

Chacapoya wasn't calling you a bigot, so not sure why you're getting so defensive. She's referring to the outpouring of OOC rhetoric from previous threads. You should try searching up the 20+ pages of the target resolution to see what we're in for.

[The Orwell Society]

There has not been a single OOC transphobic comment in this thread, if that's what you mean. As far as I know, none of the IC commenters who are in support for this resolution (including me)are actually anti-LGBTQ in real life. Don't be indirectly calling us bigots just because Tin has decided to repeal and pro-trans resolution.

Chacapoya wasn't calling you a bigot, so not sure why you're getting so defensive. She's referring to the outpouring of OOC rhetoric from previous threads. You should try searching up the 20+ pages of the target resolution to see what we're in for.

I apologize.

[Makko Oko]

"We are 100% for the repeal of this resolution. Transgender healthcare is not allowed within the nation, and therefore, this would mean a true end to it. Even if the intentions are to pass a new, better resolution in this regard, the moment it is repealed, are the moments to savor, before we go back to barbarianism." - Makko Oko Minister Of Diplomatic Affairs Alora Hakjova

Ambassador Pride: "While it's good to know that the Minister of Diplomatic Affairs of Makko Oko has the leisure time to visit the World Assembly and declare your nation's transphobia, it is perhaps not so good when that transphobia carries with it legal consequences. Can the Minister for Diplomatic Affairs perhaps explain to the Assembly how he interprets the resolution this draft targets for repeal, Resolution 571, Access to Transgender Hormone Therapy, Resolution 440, Administrative Compliance Act, as well as any number codifying healthcare standards and equal protection? What rationale has been applied to outlaw not just transgender hormone therapy, but transgender healthcare altogether?"

OOC: I don't actually know every WA resolution in effect haha (at least, not from before my time here), so honestly, in an OOC context, we do comply with it, ICly (and secretly), we comply with it but also do negative things not specifically illegal under international law to defend against it. Also, if it's not clear, not a bigot, my IC persona (or my nation I should say), is a dictatorship, dictators ban many things, OOC however, I wouldn't particularly support the repeal of trans rights, UNLESS, it expanded those rights after the repeal, but at that point, just make an amendment (which I know isn't a game function but still).