by Flemmingburg » Wed Jun 29, 2022 11:56 am
by Myuri » Wed Jun 29, 2022 1:01 pm
Flemmingburg wrote:I'm a relatively new player, but I know I can't be the only one wondering why in a fictional internet game where you can be as tyrannical, corrupt, and dictator-y as you want why fascists get such a bad reputation? Regions get raided and / or taken over and nations get condemned or are dis-allowed from joining some regions. I honestly don't get it. Sure fascists are bad in real life and did horrible stuff, but so have communists. Hell, almost every single ideology has done something horrible at some point. I'm not arguing in its favor, but simply that people on here should be able to truly play as the bad guys without being subject to pretentious crusading.
by American Collectivism » Wed Jun 29, 2022 1:09 pm
by Vando0sa » Wed Jun 29, 2022 2:17 pm
by Vleerian » Wed Jun 29, 2022 2:40 pm
Flemmingburg wrote:Sure fascists are bad in real life and did horrible stuff, but so have communists. Hell, almost every single ideology has done something horrible at some point.
by The Church of Satan » Wed Jun 29, 2022 3:14 pm
American Collectivism wrote:This is an example of two nations that are ironically fascist. I like the sense of humor behind whoever runs these accounts
https://www.nationstates.net/nation=the_stalker
Flemmingburg wrote:I'm a relatively new player, but I know I can't be the only one wondering why in a fictional internet game where you can be as tyrannical, corrupt, and dictator-y as you want why fascists get such a bad reputation? Regions get raided and / or taken over and nations get condemned or are dis-allowed from joining some regions. I honestly don't get it. Sure fascists are bad in real life and did horrible stuff, but so have communists. Hell, almost every single ideology has done something horrible at some point. I'm not arguing in its favor, but simply that people on here should be able to truly play as the bad guys without being subject to pretentious crusading.
by Banshania » Wed Jun 29, 2022 3:19 pm
by Myuri » Wed Jun 29, 2022 3:20 pm
The Church of Satan wrote:You gotta keep in mind that kids as young as 13 play this game. Some younger even, though they are not allowed to, and lie about their age so they don't get deleted. IRL nazis recruit on the internet from websites like this all the time. So there's that too. Of course it's not just nazis. Other fascist organizations use similar tactics. I wouldn't be surprised if a few terrorist organizations do the same.
Banshania wrote:Cruel, albeit not explicitly fascist nation here. I almost feel like there should be an 'about the leader' section, where you can add a disclaimer that your nation is not a reflection of your beliefs. IRL I'm a super left socialist, but my nation is somewhere in like the top 20% of conservative nations.
by Striagro Uspil » Wed Jun 29, 2022 3:58 pm
Flemmingburg wrote:I'm a relatively new player, but I know I can't be the only one wondering why in a fictional internet game where you can be as tyrannical, corrupt, and dictator-y as you want why fascists get such a bad reputation? Regions get raided and / or taken over and nations get condemned or are dis-allowed from joining some regions. I honestly don't get it. Sure fascists are bad in real life and did horrible stuff, but so have communists. Hell, almost every single ideology has done something horrible at some point. I'm not arguing in its favor, but simply that people on here should be able to truly play as the bad guys without being subject to pretentious crusading.
by Incel Argentina » Wed Jun 29, 2022 4:14 pm
by Reploid Productions » Thu Jun 30, 2022 1:15 pm
Myuri wrote:Sometimes I wonder how long it's going to be until we roll a nat 1 and the next mass shooter's path to radicalization includes some NS region, instead of 4chan
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by Catholic America » Fri Jul 01, 2022 7:42 am
by 3rd level of hell » Sat Jul 02, 2022 4:57 am
Catholic America wrote:They get alot of hate because this is a pretty politically left community, and fascist ideology has done awful things in the past. Im not saying others haven't, but fascists committed espescially horrendous crimes. Hope that answers your questions.
by Of crazed » Sat Jul 02, 2022 7:21 am
by The Orwell Society » Sat Jul 02, 2022 8:37 am
Of crazed wrote:We're just treating them like they deserve, regardless if they are roleplaying or not. If you want to roleplay an ideology everyone hates, it shouldn't be a problem that everyone hates you.
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by Of crazed » Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:13 am
The Orwell Society wrote:Of crazed wrote:We're just treating them like they deserve, regardless if they are roleplaying or not. If you want to roleplay an ideology everyone hates, it shouldn't be a problem that everyone hates you.
That's just not fair. I roleplay a fascist nation, so do you hate me? Roleplay would be extremely boring without bad guys. So can it, will you?
by Jewish Underground State » Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:24 am
Flemmingburg wrote:I'm a relatively new player, but I know I can't be the only one wondering why in a fictional internet game where you can be as tyrannical, corrupt, and dictator-y as you want why fascists get such a bad reputation? Regions get raided and / or taken over and nations get condemned or are dis-allowed from joining some regions. I honestly don't get it. Sure fascists are bad in real life and did horrible stuff, but so have communists. Hell, almost every single ideology has done something horrible at some point. I'm not arguing in its favor, but simply that people on here should be able to truly play as the bad guys without being subject to pretentious crusading.
by Catholic America » Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:28 am
by Cappedore » Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:30 am
Flemmingburg wrote:I'm a relatively new player, but I know I can't be the only one wondering why in a fictional internet game where you can be as tyrannical, corrupt, and dictator-y as you want why fascists get such a bad reputation? Regions get raided and / or taken over and nations get condemned or are dis-allowed from joining some regions. I honestly don't get it. Sure fascists are bad in real life and did horrible stuff, but so have communists. Hell, almost every single ideology has done something horrible at some point. I'm not arguing in its favor, but simply that people on here should be able to truly play as the bad guys without being subject to pretentious crusading.
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by Jewish Underground State » Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:31 am
Catholic America wrote:That and they decided to get all "im fascist and in your face about it".
by Cappedore » Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:32 am
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by Catholic America » Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:36 am
by Jewish Underground State » Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:38 am
by Saksoni » Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:39 am
Flemmingburg wrote:I'm a relatively new player, but I know I can't be the only one wondering why in a fictional internet game where you can be as tyrannical, corrupt, and dictator-y as you want why fascists get such a bad reputation? Regions get raided and / or taken over and nations get condemned or are dis-allowed from joining some regions. I honestly don't get it. Sure fascists are bad in real life and did horrible stuff, but so have communists. Hell, almost every single ideology has done something horrible at some point. I'm not arguing in its favor, but simply that people on here should be able to truly play as the bad guys without being subject to pretentious crusading.
by Catholic America » Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:55 am
Jewish Underground State wrote:Cappedore wrote:To correct you, communism in itself isn't a fundamentally hateful or discriminatory ideology - unless you're talking about Leninism or Stalinism.
I'll make this simple to stay on topic
Trotsky who is seen as the face of true communism was willing and ordered for sending in firing squads to kill officers of other groups who wanted peace. The officers had shown up peacefully with no reason to kill yet he ordered them to die because they were from rival group even though that group wanted peace.
And don't even get me started on people like Castro and Mao.
The point is that these communist nations blaming fascists often have ideals matching real world communists. They are also real up in your face about it. These nations often push their ideals onto regions they don't like. Not all of these regions are even fascist.
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