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by Chinniwana » Thu Jun 23, 2022 5:33 pm
by Burgenreich » Thu Jun 23, 2022 5:43 pm
Burgenreich wrote:For anyone opening this thread for the first time, I want to let you know that there's still plenty of space, you have room to join. Sao, the OP, has been busy reviewing apps so he hasn't updated the map to reflect everything just yet, but I've kept up with the thread enough to know what's available. The map currently shows Scandinavia as a united country, but since that reservation was dropped, the nations of Scandinavia are up for grabs. You can choose to play as a united Scandinavia if you wish. The application for the Iberian Empire was dropped as well. Portugal has been reserved, but Spain is up for grabs. You can choose to play as one of the colonies of either if you'd like.
The reservation for New France was also dropped. Norv, who's playing as the Thirteen Colonies, has got a really cool setup going so I think you'd have a fun time there as either New France or even a Native American tribe. Remember: Your country doesn't have to be real, but it does have to be plausible. Sao was willing to let people play crusader states in the 1780s, so there's a lot of space for you to express your imagination. With that being said, here's a list of regions and countries which are open for you to take. I've included as many as I can, but it may not be exhaustive in spite of that.
- Southeast Asia from Burma to Vietnam
- Northern/Western/Southern India
- Almost all of Africa
- Indonesia
- Spain
- Portugal
- Latin American Colonies
- Belgium
- Native American Tribes
- Most of the Arabian Peninsula, Syria, and Iraq
- Scandinavian countries
- Bosnia
- Wallachia (Southern Romania)
- Southern Caucasus
- Persia/Central Asia/Afghanistan
I can already tell that this rp is lining up to be a lot of fun. If you'd like to join, don't be intimidated by the number of posts and feel free to reserve a nation. Reservations last for seven days and can get a three day extension after the seventh day upon request to the OP. I hope that helps!
by New Luciannova » Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:47 pm
by Burgenreich » Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:51 pm
New Luciannova wrote:May I please reserve Southern Italy, I should be able to get an application up tomorrow or over the weekend.
by Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:08 am
by The Traansval » Sat Jun 25, 2022 1:10 am
by Pasong Tirad » Sat Jun 25, 2022 5:27 am
by Greater Cornwallis » Sat Jun 25, 2022 8:49 am
by Ovstylap » Sat Jun 25, 2022 10:00 am
by Khasinkonia » Sat Jun 25, 2022 1:34 pm
by Burgenreich » Sat Jun 25, 2022 4:46 pm
New Luciannova wrote:May I please reserve Southern Italy, I should be able to get an application up tomorrow or over the weekend.
The Traansval wrote:Reservation
Nation Name: Undecided yet
Territory: Current unclaimed north Italy, Corsica, and Sardinia.
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Pasong Tirad wrote:Reservation
Nation Name: Swiss Confederacy
Territory: Switzerland, Liechtenstein (if it isn't claimed by Nitrana or whoever the person claiming Austria is) and Aosta Valley in Northern Italy (with The Transvaal's approval).
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Sao Nova Europa wrote:
No problem.
BTW, I aim to have IC up by Monday, so we can have your country and others that have still not completed app.
by Sao Nova Europa » Sat Jun 25, 2022 5:21 pm
Nitrana wrote:Nation Name: Formal names: Der Donaubund/Podunajská Konfederace/A Dunai Konföderácio
Casual names: Austria, Danube, The Confederation
by Burgenreich » Sat Jun 25, 2022 5:25 pm
by Reverend Norv » Sat Jun 25, 2022 6:40 pm
Khasinkonia wrote:I have decided to resume my reservation for New France, as I have happened upon some time.
by Khasinkonia » Sat Jun 25, 2022 8:22 pm
Nation Name: The French colonies in North America are officially known as New France when discussed as a collective, but individually, they are known as Canada, Baie d’Hudson, Acadie, Plaisance, Pays des Illinois (Formally known as Haute-Louisiane), and Louisiane (Formally known as Basse-Louisiane), with two larger entities emerging: Canada and Louisiana. Among the colonists, several collective names are well-attested to, but the most frequently used term with positive, fraternal connotations is the name “Les Fleuves-Frères,” a name which translates directly as “The Brother-Rivers,” referencing the Mississippi and St-Laurent rivers, which hold most of the major settlements of New France along their banks.
Culture(s):While somewhat more culturally homogenous than other colonies of similar size, the people of New France still can be divided into a number of groups, though these groups do not necessarily follow the strict caste system of the Iberian colonies, nor does it strongly resemble the race system of the English colonies.
Most politically important among these groups are the first-generation European settlers. Though backgrounds have historically varied greatly, these settlers generally hail from the French peasantry, especially in areas on the periphery of France, such as Normandy, Brittany, and the borderlands with the Germans, among others. A minority of first-generation European settlers come from higher classes, and generally serve in administrative positions or only become permanent inhabitants due to chance, rather than intent of settling, unlike their lower-class counterparts.
The second group, which composes a majority of the free population, is the descendants of settlers, collectively referred to in Louisiane as “Creoles.” In Canada, there is not any widely used term, but Creole has seen usage in some circles to refer to the same group. Among the Creoles, there are several subgroups, including Creoles of full European descent, Creoles of mixed ancestry, and the Métis, which refers to those of partial aboriginal descent. While Creoles of full European descent can be found throughout all of the colonies, the Creoles of mixed ancestry, some of whom are referred to as gens de couleur libres, are mostly found in Basse-Louisiane, descended from freed or escaped slaves, while Métis can be found most in Illinois, Canada, and Baie d’Hudson.
While a majority of European settlers and Creoles of partial or full European descent take their European descent from French settlers, there also exist populations, particularly near ports, hailing from other parts of Europe, such as those of Dutch, Portuguese, and Spanish descent in New Orléans, Germans to the north of New Orléans, and English and Irish in Plaisance.
While almost all major permanent European settlements are along the shores of the great rivers and the shores of the Atlantic, there are also significant aboriginal populations within the claimed borders of New France. Though they have little direct political influence, they are regarded as full French subjects by the colonial administration and are nominally subject to the same laws as their settler counterparts, and have had a significant impact on the development of the colonies, especially in the northern settlements. The colony of Illinois takes its name from the Illinois Confederation, a group of Algonquian tribes inhabiting the northern Mississippi river valley. There and further to the north as well, the fur trade thrives and was one of the driving factors in the early settlement of the area.
Concentrated mostly in Basse-Louisiane, there is a population of enslaved people of both African and aboriginal descent, mostly serving to fuel the plantation economy that has developed there. While not officially legal under French law, the southernmost colony has seen a steady rise in its slave population over the years regardless.
Finally, there exists one group that is generally universally disliked by the free citizens, from the aboriginal nations to the new settlers — the overmountain settlers coming from the British colonies to the east. While theoretically subjects of France just as all others who live in New France and then of the numerous tribes who inhabit these areas, the overmountainers rarely acknowledge either authority, and indeed may sometimes react with hostility to those who seek to enforce the will of the rightful government on them. To the people who already live on the land, these men are invaders. To the trappers and slavers, they are competitors. To the Catholic Church, most of them are heretics. And to the government itself, they are undesirable elements and potential usurpers who undermine its authority.
Territory: New France consists of all of the territories of France on the mainland North American continent, as well as several islands, most notable among them being Newfoundland. Borders between the administrative divisions are ill-defined, as are the outer borders of the colony. Officially, the territory extends to the Appalachian mountains in the east, but the viability of control remains in severe doubt, even to those with less than accurate perceptions of the situation in the colonies.
Capital City: Officially, the Governor-General, Intendant, and the Superior Council of New France reside in Québec City, but in practice, there is a sort of devolution to the territory of New France. Québec City serves as the hub for the northern colonies, while Louisiane is focused on its capital of New Orléans. Beneath these two lower capitals, Haute-Louisiane and Plaisance also have their own capitals—St-Louis and Plaisance. Baie d’Hudson, meanwhile, is largely a seasonal colony under nominally separate administration, and in practice has no real administrative centre.
Population: 1,761,400, consisting of 849,100 free Haute and Basse-Louisianais, 612,300 Canadiens, and an estimated 300,000 aboriginals who are legally considered citizens even if they may not regard themselves as such.
Government Type: New France follows a mechanically absolutist model, with supreme administrative power concentrated in the hands of the Intendant and his Superior Council, while the Governor-General represents the interests of the crown, which may overrule or make its own decisions for the colonies at any time and for any reason. In light of the constitutional reforms following the Seven Years War, a parliament of sorts has been formed, albeit with limited powers. It consists exclusively of what would be considered the Third Estate, as the clergy and the nobility are transient presences at best in much of the colonies.
Head of State: By the Grace of God, King of France and Navarre, His Majesty [TBD] reigns over all realms of the Kingdom of France, and has generously granted Governor-General Louis-Philippe de Rigaud, Marquis de Vaudreuil the right to represent His Majesty to the Superior Council and to the Intendant.
Head of Government: Intendant Jean-Marie Roland de la Platière is the head of the Superior Council, which consists of the Governor-General, the Intendant himself, the Bishops of Canada and Louisiana, the Captain-General of the Militia, and eleven additional councillors who serve as the Court of Appeals, of whom one serves as the Procurator General and one the Registrar.
Government Description:New France is composed of two superior constituent colonies, Canada and Louisiane. These two superior colonies are subdivided into five lesser colonies (Canada Proper, Acadie, Plaisance, Haute-Louisiane, and Basse-Louisiane) and one company (Baie d’Hudson). Mirroring France itself, New France’s government functions with an empowered executive branch. The Intendant heads the Superior Council and manages the realm, while the Governor-General represents the will of the king. In general, the civilian administrations present in New France closely resemble those of France proper, with little room for deviation.
Though the government of New France superficially appears to have a tight leash due to the rigidity of its government structure, a select few individuals at the top often are able to exercise their extensive powers with little concern for consequence—a practice for which numerous former Governor-Generals and later Intendants became infamous. Currently, the absolute power of the Intendant is wielded by a man of a humble and stolid man, which has made some figures quite pleased, while those who came to enjoy the corruption that power had brought some of his predecessors find Roland’s reluctance to move past his bounds to be a significant obstacle.
Under Roland’s tenure, the government has reformed to resemble the modern government present in France. Still in its nascent stages, the legislative branch — the New French parliament — lacks tenure and competence, only exercising its technical power very infrequently as a result. The executive branch further maintains the right to veto and replace any elected officials, though this rarely happens without a petition from the locals, as the Intendant’s concerns have been primarily economic in nature. From this concern, the Intendant has been keen to see the Parliament take a more active role in administering the realm. Currently, the parliament’s powers largely overlap with those of the Superior Council, and the Council and Intendant are able to overrule it at any time. This has not inspired great confidence in the institution, but there is hope among many urban populations that it may begin to take a comparable role to that of the motherland.
Even the Intendant, however, must yield to the institutions of France itself. If the French Parliament demands the colony jump, the Intendant may only ask “How high?” If it demands a tariff, a tariff there shall be. No matter what those in the colonies may desire, those back home may overrule their wishes. The democratic institutions of the homeland still can lord over the colonies like the king in Britain may rule over his colonies — absolutely and without question.
Majority/State Religion : Catholicism is generally dominant, due to its institutionalised position, but, particularly in areas where the authority of the colonial government is weak, there can be found a number of other faiths, both Christian and otherwise.
Economic Description: The economy of New France, thanks to its vast territory, is necessarily extraordinarily diverse for lands of comparable populations. The majority of the colonists practice subsistence farming, though in some areas fishing may take precedence over farming. The primary arteries of New France are its rivers. Even among the fur trappers, the rivers serve as important means to transport their goods. Unlike the British colonies to the east, almost all trade to the interior flows through one of two ports: Quebec and New Orleans. This has resulted in a very lopsided population distribution. Notably, a few areas around New Orleans in particular, though also Quebec, have begun to adopt manufactories like those in the homeland.
Development: While much of New France is firmly pre-industrial, a few areas around the busiest ports have begun to demonstrate trends that may indicate potential for industrialisation.
Army Description: The New France militias are relatively small for the amount of land they are tasked with defending, but they have seen similar reforms to those of the French army with regards to standards for morale and discipline. Notably, they have their own school of tactics which has taken a great deal of inspiration from their native counterparts, enabling them to punch well above their weight in the dense forests of the American interior. Similarly, generally cordial relations with tribes and strict conduct codes help to prevent internal sabotage.
Army Weakness: Compared to the British colonies to the east, the New French army may have more formal training and tactics better adapted to the environment of the interior, but, as proven by the Seven Years War, numbers can be just as important, and native allies can’t reasonably be expected to bolster the ranks of the New French militia in times of war.
Naval Description: The New France “navy,” if it can be called that, consists mostly of merchant ships and fishing boats which have previously been refitted with cannons and may be refitted once again if there is a need, though with the reforms in the homeland, this appears to be more of a backup plan than anything.
Naval Weakness: Lacking any kind of formal navy, the best New France can provide is coastal batteries around the major ports which may be used to buy time until reinforcements from the French navy can break a blockade.
National Goals: Further economic and population development, population of the interior, and pursue independent policies from France.
National Issues:
Les Mis: Like their counterparts to the east, New France is primarily populated by those who did not fit in well with the environment present in the homeland. While poverty is a more frequent driver of emmigration than religious or moral disagreements, there is still a growing notion of independence from the France of Europe. Among those in New France, there is a fairly common opinion that France proper may not have the interests of its colonies at heart, and so, despite strong notions of “Frenchness” still being common, the sense of alienation has led to an increasingly strong push for greater autonomy.
Land of Twin Rivers: New France has been endowed with both a blessing and a curse. The great waterways of the interior allow goods and people to travel out to port with great ease. However, this is only a one-way trip. Travelling downriver is significantly easier than travelling upriver, which has led to a very one-sided trade relationship and has complicated the settlement of the interior, as the great rivers serve as the main arteries of the colonies.
Reluctant Colonists: New France is rich in land and poor in people. Despite the best efforts of the administration and French government alike, getting people to populate the interior has always been an uphill battle. Beyond Fort St. Louis and Fort Rouillé, great swaths of land lay underused and open to the more zealous settlers from the east.
French, and?: Although bound by many common traits, the fundamental bond between those in the colonies ultimately boils down to being French in the New World. Any attempts at nation identity beyond the notion of sharing rivers inevitably returns to being French. The only notable distinction beyond these features is the overwhelming dominance of Catholicism, which is not reflected back home. However, as many in northern colonies especially descend from those fleeing the Wars of Religion, a difference in faith is not enough to motivate most to take up arms.
History :
New France in Canada
The history of New France is generally divided into two realms: Canada and Louisiana. The history of New France as a whole, however, begins with Canada. Seven years after he planted a cross in Gaspesia, the Breton-French explorer Jacques Cartier brought four hundred settlers to settle the land of Quebec City in 1541. Although the settlers experienced great difficulty during their first few years, they were able to endure despite all odds, and this initial success served to embolden French colonists in the future, though for many years, settlements remained small and limited in scope.
During the reign of Henry IV, new colonial charters were issued, and his reign saw the expansion of Quebec City, Montreal, and the establishment of numerous new villages. Until this period, however, New France was regarded as an exclusively economic venture, focused primarily on the procurement of furs. During the French Wars of Religion, Henry IV’s government came to treat New France as a sort of relief valve, encouraging peasants more unwilling to accept new government policies to emigrate.
New France in Louisiana
In 1671, the settlement of Bilocci was established, which initiated the French presence in previously claimed territories in Louisiana.
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by Pasong Tirad » Sun Jun 26, 2022 7:29 am
by Nitrana » Sun Jun 26, 2022 9:22 am
by Reverend Norv » Sun Jun 26, 2022 9:39 am
Pasong Tirad wrote:Withdrawing my reservation for Switzerland. I'm not interested in playing as the Swiss. I'll think about who to play.
by Burgenreich » Sun Jun 26, 2022 10:11 am
by Pasong Tirad » Mon Jun 27, 2022 2:02 am
by Burgenreich » Mon Jun 27, 2022 3:12 am
by Inazumaa » Mon Jun 27, 2022 4:00 am
by Reverend Norv » Mon Jun 27, 2022 5:14 am
Pasong Tirad wrote:Reverend Norv wrote:
Take the Haudenosaunee, or another tribal confederacy. Join Khas, GCCS, me, and Rodez in the North American tinderbox.
Playing a Native American group in the middle of the competing colonial groups is an interesting thought to me. Off the top of my head, I could play the Haudenosaunee, like you suggested, or a confederation of the so-called Five Civilized Tribes somewhere in the southwestern United States, hopefully in a contiguous territory - easy enough to justify using land grabs - for easier RP. Both confederations would struggle with finding their way forward in the new order being birthed in the New World while being used and exploited by both colonial powers due to seeing them as inferior, using their territory as buffer regions and encroaching upon them with more and more settlers.
Alternatively, I could play the Lakota in the far Midwest or the Comanche in the central south, recovering from decades of being decimated by disease and rapidly modernizing in the wake of aggression from hunters and settlers from New France, the British or the Spanish.
I'll do my research and think about it. Also open to other suggestions, like playing Haiti or something idk.
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