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Rodez
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Postby Rodez » Sat Jun 18, 2022 9:17 am

I should be able to finish France today. My history always gets away from me.
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Greater Liverpool
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Postby Greater Liverpool » Sat Jun 18, 2022 9:21 am

Sao Nova Europa wrote:
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Yeah I am still here just had a busy few days running up and down the country for my job


Also a reminder that according to the rules you can request an additional 3 days after the 7 days of reservation if you want, so no worries. :)


I should be okay but thank you anyway
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Postby Reverend Norv » Sat Jun 18, 2022 12:43 pm

Working on my history too; the rest is finished and posted. I can write up to about 1730 based on what James has given me; once the Britannic Empire app is done, I will be able to write the rest.
For really, I think that the poorest he that is in England hath a life to live as the greatest he. And therefore truly, Sir, I think it's clear that every man that is to live under a Government ought first by his own consent to put himself under that Government. And I do think that the poorest man in England is not at all bound in a strict sense to that Government that he hath not had a voice to put himself under.
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Postby Burgenreich » Sat Jun 18, 2022 12:46 pm

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Burgenreich wrote:Nation Name: Great Ming


With the revisions made, ACCEPTED.


Peace and grace to your majesty 8)

If we don't get a player for Japan, which I hope we do, can we say that they're a Wei tributary and similar to OTL Japan? The way I see it, the Ming thus far have stayed out of the Wei's sphere of influence in order to avoid provoking a war, as that would pose a significant threat to their economic development.
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Postby Scandinavia21 » Sat Jun 18, 2022 3:06 pm

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Scandinavia21 wrote:Nation Name: The Kingdom of Scandinavia


The app looks good and I thank you for the effort you put into it. However there are a few problems that should be addressed before you can be accepted.


1. Please fix the formatting. It's not a big issue, but it makes the application easier to read for me and other players. For example:

Instead of:

Government Type: Absolute Monarchy


this:

Government Type: Absolute Monarchy


And delete instructions too. So instead of this:

Economic Description: Scandinavia runs on free market capitalism with some regulations to help prevent monopolies from forming, ensures workers in Scandinavia earn minimum wage, bans child labor and ensures that workplaces are safe. While this seems very progressive to the other industrialized nations in Europe, this is very common on the provincial and local levels in Scandinavia. The new labor laws on the national level were enacted by King Gustav in 1775. The major products produced are ships, guns, gunpowder, forestry, iron and steel. Unlike RL, Scandinavia began to industrialize at the same as Great Britain in 1760. I expect at least one (1) paragraph. Explain how advanced your economy is, how your economy works (free-market capitalism? heavily regulated economy?) and the major products of your country.


It should be this:

Economic Description: Scandinavia runs on free market capitalism with some regulations to help prevent monopolies from forming, ensures workers in Scandinavia earn minimum wage, bans child labor and ensures that workplaces are safe. While this seems very progressive to the other industrialized nations in Europe, this is very common on the provincial and local levels in Scandinavia. The new labor laws on the national level were enacted by King Gustav in 1775. The major products produced are ships, guns, gunpowder, forestry, iron and steel. Unlike RL, Scandinavia began to industrialize at the same as Great Britain in 1760.


It's a minor thing, but it would be really helpful.

2.

With regards to the economy:

Economic Description: Scandinavia runs on free market capitalism with some regulations to help prevent monopolies from forming, ensures workers in Scandinavia earn minimum wage, bans child labor and ensures that workplaces are safe. While this seems very progressive to the other industrialized nations in Europe, this is very common on the provincial and local levels in Scandinavia. The new labor laws on the national level were enacted by King Gustav in 1775. The major products produced are ships, guns, gunpowder, forestry, iron and steel. Unlike RL, Scandinavia began to industrialize at the same as Great Britain in 1760.


Prussia was the first state to enact laws restricting child labor in factories and setting the number of hours a child could work in 1839. I think it's a bit too early for that. Safety regulations also came later on. So delete those two.

On the other hand the minimum wage is fine, though for specific industries: " The practice was eventually formalized with the passage of the Act Fixing a Minimum Wage in 1604 by King James I for workers in the textile industry."

3.

Government Description: The King or Queen has absolute say in all things happening in Scandinavia. Each Ministry of the Kingdom of Scandinavia is run by a Minister who's only superior is the King or Queen. In charge of each province is a governor elected by the people of that province whose job is to run the province effectively and efficiently and keep the people living in and traveling through safe. Underneath the governor is the various mayors of the cities, towns and villages who are elected by the citizens of these cities, towns and villages. They are to run their cities, towns and villages effectively and efficiently and also keep the people within their jurisdiction.


This is alright but there three issues:

A) Who gets the right to vote? For example, in RL Sweden at that had elected legislature but it wasn't a modern democracy:

Although the taxed peasantry was represented in the Parliament, its influence was disproportionately small, and commoners without taxed property had no suffrage at all.

All power was vested in the people as represented by the Riksdag, consisting, as before, of four distinct estates: nobles, priests, burgesses and peasants.


Each estate was ruled by its talman, or speaker, who was now elected at the beginning of each Diet, but the archbishop was, ex officio, the talman of the clergy. The lantmarskalk, or speaker of the House of Nobles, presided when the estates met in congress and also, by virtue of his office, in the secret committee. This famous body, which consisted of 50 nobles, 25 priests, 25 burgesses, and, very exceptionally, 25 peasants, possessed during the session of the Riksdag not only the supreme executive but also the supreme judicial and legislative functions. It prepared all bills for the Riksdag, created and deposed all ministries, controlled the foreign policy of the nation, and claimed and often exercised the right of superseding the ordinary courts of justice.


So I want a clarification on this.

B) Are there demands for restrictions to the power of the monarchy? Are there demand for a national parliament, similar to whatever legislature exists in the provinces?

C) Why did an absolute monarchy allow voting rights in the provinces? In RL, the 'Age of Liberty' in Sweden came after the defeat of the Swedish Empire, which led to a decline in the power of the Swedish monarchy. So was it a military defeat? The monarchy attempting to placate the new, emerging bourgeoisies class?

4. About your army.

Army Description:

Royal Guard- A 15,000 men strong division dedicated to defending the Royal Family and the Capital, Stockholm. It is divided into three parts. The first part is the infantry which is 10,000 strong armed with the best muskets that can be bought and is the most highly trained troops in the Royal Scandinavia Army. The second part is the Calvary section of the Royal Guard which is 4,000 strong. They equipped with the best weapons and ride the best horses in the RSA. The last section are armed with heavy and light cannons. Since Stockholm is a fortified city, the cannons are mounted in permanent defilades built into the walls around the city.


This is alright and you can keep it.

Calvary Regiments- These regiments which are 1000 strong and carry good equipment and have good training putting them on par with the Calvary units all across Europe. There are 75 of these regiments spread out all across the Kingdom including its overseas territories.

Infantry Divisions- The Infantry Divisions are 10,000 strong, carry good equipment and have decent training. There are 45 divisions spread out across Scandinavia proper and 1 division in each colony bringing the total to 51 divisions.


Those two are alright when it comes to description of equipment and training, BUT way too much in terms of numbers. In the Great Northern War, the Swedish Empire fielded 76,000 troops and Denmark-Norway 40,000 troops: 116,000 in total. And that was a major war fought over many years. Right now your app states you have 75,000 cavalrymen and 510,000 infantry men. Those are too large numbers. You are not China. Even with additional population of colonies, you can have so many men at arms.

I would advise that you reduce your total number of troops to 130,000 perhaps (both cavalry and infantry). You don't need mass numbers anyway unless you are China. This is not WWI or WWII.

Your naval numbers seem alright to me and need no change.

5. About your history. I would have liked a bit more details on the Scandinavian Unification War and some mention if there are still hard feelings/independence movements among populace with regards to this union. But more or less that part of your history is alright.

I have a problem with this however:

The natives in Sydvästra Afrika while not Scandinavian citizens were treated with caution and watched any rebellious. In 1720, Scandinavia expanded out to the East Indies of Southeast Asia by claiming the Islands of Java and Sumatra establishing the Scandinavian East Indies as a colony with the new Capital named Jakarta. This colony started growing like an out of control wildfire while the native were treated with kindness and fairness.


Even with the Scandinavians treating the natives with caution, I don't see them treating them as equals or without any kind of racism. Racism and notions of European superiority were the norm back then. Also, even if Scandinavians claimed to treat fairly the natives, I wouldn't expect the natives to accept colonial rule without any resistance. You should mention occasional revolts in your history. I also expect some unrest in the colonies. Not revolution, since Asian independence movements took off in late 19th and early 20th centuries, but certainly occasional trouble and unrest.

5. I need an RP sample. You mentioned your RPed before with another account, so provide a link to a post from your other account. Or write a short paragraph here. Whatever you wish.

I will make the changes.
Nation: Kingdom of Scandinavia
Technology: MT- PMT
Year: 2025
Territory: Norway, Sweden, Finland, Denmark, Iceland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Kola Peninsula
Leader: Queen Anastasia the 3rd
GENA Ambassador: Thomas Hauger

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Sao Nova Europa
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Postby Sao Nova Europa » Sat Jun 18, 2022 3:08 pm

Scandinavia21 wrote:I will make the changes.


Thanks. :)
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Postby Scandinavia21 » Sat Jun 18, 2022 3:12 pm

Sao Nova Europa wrote:
Scandinavia21 wrote:I will make the changes.


Thanks. :)

This is my first rp with this nation but not overall. Can I use an example from a different account or what?
Nation: Kingdom of Scandinavia
Technology: MT- PMT
Year: 2025
Territory: Norway, Sweden, Finland, Denmark, Iceland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Kola Peninsula
Leader: Queen Anastasia the 3rd
GENA Ambassador: Thomas Hauger

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Postby Mifan » Sat Jun 18, 2022 3:24 pm

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Nation Name: Oda Shogunate/Japan
Territory: Japanese Home Islands, Sakhalin, Kuril Islands
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Postby The Orson Empire » Sat Jun 18, 2022 5:35 pm

Mifan wrote:
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Nation Name: Oda Shogunate/Japan
Territory: Japanese Home Islands, Sakhalin, Kuril Islands
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Looks like we have a Japan player now. East Asia is shaping up to be a battleground.

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Postby Greater Liverpool » Sat Jun 18, 2022 6:02 pm

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Nation Name: The Polish-Ruthenian Commonwealth
Culture(s): Multicultural Empire
The major cultures of the Commonwealth are Ruthenian, Moscowvite and Novgordian (form the emerging culture of Velikaya), Belarusian, and Polish these cultures are accepted within the commonwealth

Minor cultures of the Commonwealth are Tatar, Lithuanian, Latvian, Estonian, Caucasian,

Territory: Land already claimed in blue on the map
Capital City: Kyiv
Population: 76,000,000

Government Type : Noble Elite Republic
Head of State: Grand Prince Alexi of the Rusjovichs
Head of Government: Grand Prince Alexi of the Rusjovichs
Government Description:

The Government of Poland-Ruthenia is based upon the power of the rada which at one point was just the council of lords and dukes that would be summoned to help the King. But since the death of the last King of the Commonwealth, the rada has elected one of its own to become the head of the commonwealth taking the title of Grand Prince. These Grand Princes are elected directly by the rada and will rule the commonwealth for 10 years upon which they must step down and another election is held. This has resulted in a fair amount of stability and cooperation between the many different parts of the commonwealth and Grand Princes that have come from all over the Commonwealth.

While there is no formal constitution, the government acts according to the laws and traditions that have been passed down through the time of the Kievian Rus' to the Kingdom of Galicia–Volhynia to now the Polish-Ruthenian Commonwealth. To this end, absolute power remains with those in the Rada who are unelected since members of the rada are the lords of the Commonwealth which has meant that there have been rare circumstances in which members of the Rada have been female however since traditional inheritance laws follow in which positions of power are always passed down to the sons.

Majority/State Religion : Eastern Orthodoxy is the majority and the state religion of the Polish-Ruthenian Commonwealth. Catholicism remains a sizeable minority within the Commonwealth mainly in Poland and Lithuania. There is also the Uniate Church which is classified as a Western Orthodox church since it follows the Latin Rite but recognizes the local Patriarch of Kyiv as the head of the church and not the pope.

Economic Description:

Due to the more decentralized nature of the commonwealth, it is hard to pinpoint an exact economic policy that is enforced across the country in certain areas of the Commonwealth free trade and free-market measures have been introduced mainly in the major cities since these areas are becoming liberal and welcoming of the Enlightenment as well as the beginnings of industry. However, in the countryside, the economic policy is much more conservative with high taxes and serfdom still being enforced however some cities are abolishing the practice, or not enforcing the returning of serfs back to their original lands.

The economy of the Commonwealth can be seen as lacking behind that of Western Europe due to the lack of modern methods being introduced into the Commonwealth. However, this is more than made up for by the sheer size of the Commonwealth. The main exports of the Commonwealth are food, iron, timber, and coal.

Development: Pre-industrialized, although in the major towns and cities there does exist Proto-industrialization

Army Description:

The Commonwealth Army is by far the largest army on the European Continent numbering at nearly 400,000 men standing, this is to maintain the vast borders of the Empire
Army Weakness:
Naval Description:
Naval Weakness:

National Goals:
- Promote Pan-Slavic ideals
- Ensure the dominance of the Polish-Ruthenian Commonwealth in Eastern Europe
- Reach a conclusion between the Reformatoriv and the Boyars

National Issues:

- Crisis in the Rada. There is a growing political divide between two factions within the Rada the Reformatoriv and the Boyars. The Reformatoriv are a collection of lords and princes that represent a desire to embrace enlightenment ideals, these Reformatoriv usually come from the more modern towns and cities. On the other hand, the Boyars represent the conservative old guard of the Rada wanting to maintain the Rada's power and fight against new ideas.

- Catholicism, the Uniate Church, and Orthodoxy. The relationship between Catholicism and Orthodoxy within the Commonwealth has always been an issue ever since the uniting of the Kingdom of Poland and Kingdom of Galicia–Volhynia. However, the religious tolerance of the Commonwealth has allowed for peace between the two communities in recent years there has been a rise in Catholic zealotry, especially against the local Uniate Church which was an attempt to break Polish and Lithuanian Catholicism away from the catholic world and into the Orthodox world.

- Great Russia, While the Slavic peoples of the Commonwealth, have had their share of representation there is one group that has been more recently more vocal about its intent to form its own destiny, the people of Great Russia. Since the last 17th Century the people of the North-Eastern part of the commonwealth have begun to develop their own culture and identity known as the Velikaya these peoples come from the former lands of the Moscowvite Duchy and Republic of Novgorod.

History :

The Kingdom of Poland and the Kingdom of Ruthenia

The history of the Polish-Ruthenia Commonwealth begins in the 14th Century with King Casimir III the Great and his attempt to conquer the Kingdom of Ruthenia. In 1340 King Casimir III attacked King Leo II of Ruthenia in an attempt to dethrone the King and take the kingdom however King Leo was able to win a decisive battle and stop Casimir in his attempts, and peace between the two kingdoms was soon reached in 1344 there would be no territorial gains by either side however King Leo was able to secure a marriage alliance with the Polish Kingdom with Princess Anna of Poland and Prince Drimitus of Ruthenia. The Kingdom of Poland and the Kingdom of Ruthenia would then fight alongside each against the Grand Duchy of Lithuania taking lands in a series of wars that raged from 1350 to 1370. At which point Casimir III would die leaving the Kingdom of Poland with no male heir and the successor being King Louis I of Hungary. Drimitus would succeed his father not long after in 1372 and would remain close with the King of Poland with the two kingdoms remaining allied through Princess Anna. A final war between the allied Kingdom of Poland and the Kingdom of Ruthenia against the Grand Duchy of Lithuania in 1381 resulted in Belarus being annexed by Ruthenia and the lands of Lithuania annexed by the Kingdom of Poland.

The Union of Poland and Ruthenia

In 1382 King Louis of Hungary would die leaving his only daughter Jadwiga as the only suitable heir to the Kingdom of Poland. However, the Polish nobility instead requested the second son of Drimtius, Leo of Galicia to become King of Poland and upon doing so Leo become the first member of the House of Piast-Rurik and King Leo I of Krakow. But it would not be long until Leo would also find himself heir to the throne of Ruthenia after the death of his Elder brother in 1386 and in 1387 he would become King of both Poland and Ruthenia. In 1390 the act of Lviv would be signed which officially brought together the Kingdom of Poland and the Kingdom of Ruthenia into a single political entity and would found the modern-day Rada in which the collection of the many different lords of the new Kingdom would come together into the United Kingdom of Poland and Ruthenia

King of all Rus'

At the turn of the 15th century, the Polish-Ruthenian kingdom looked stronger than most other kingdoms in the region, however, there was trouble on the horizon in the 14th Century the mighty Goldern Horde had slowly lost its power and influence over the former kingdoms of the Rus' and the once small city of Moscow had been growing in both power and influence able to control many of the smaller Russian principalities in the Eastern Rus. This was also coupled with the ever-shrinking influence of the once might Novgorod Republic. In 1404 an agreement was reached between King Leo and the Grand Prince Vasily I of Moscow in which the Polish-Ruthenian Commonwealth would help the Moscowvites in their struggle against the Golden Horde and in return, the prince of Ryazan became part of the United Kingdom and Moscow recognize the authority of the Polish-Ruthenia king to be King of all Rus'. They also stated the borders between Moscow and Novgorod and that neither side could declare war on the other unless given approval by the Polish-Ruthenia King.

After 20 years Moscow with support from Poland-Ruthenia would become fully independent from the Golden Horde, but after gaining their independence Moscow would attempt to undermine the agreement by gaining strength to attack not only Novgorod but Poland Ruthenia

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Postby Burgenreich » Sat Jun 18, 2022 7:29 pm

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Nation Name: Sultanate of Greater Turkey
Culture(s): Ottoman, Turkish, Greco-Roman, Kazaks.
Territory: Current Modern-day Turkey, Northern Syria and Armenia.
Capital City: Istanbul
Population: 11 Million

Government Type : Absolute Monarchy, with Northern Syria and Armenia under "Provisional Sultanate Regimes".
Head of State: Sultan Mehmet Şen
Head of Government: Sultan Mehmet Şen
Government Description:The country is administrated not via the direct actions of the sultan, but of the Royal Directory Board, a small cabinet of senior ministers, who are responsible for certain areas of the country. There is 16 "Royal Ministers" and are usually un-elected officials, with most either connected by ethnicity or family. Aside from the Royal cabinet, there are provisional officers, who represent a separate department for regional territories. Provisional ministers are responsible for the economic and social efficiency of the regions responsible. Local regions are not under local power, and local power is completely centralised under regional boards. Much like the royal cabinet, most members are either connected via power or family.

Majority/State Religion: Muslim

Economic Description: The country is heavily regulated, planned economy, with almost all markets nationalised and monopolised by state-owned entities - in which has been the reason for the lack of economic improvement. The country has a mixutre of farming-dominated regions and newly-industrialised areas. Northern, Southern and Eastern Turkey are newly-Industrialised areas, of which 50% of Turkey's economy is activists thier. Northern Syria and Eastern Turkey still remain as a agrarian dominated areas, with farming the dominative industry. Armenia remains the least developed, with only a few areas within the current modern module of the farming.

Development: Greater Turkey could be considered industrialised in the Western and Southern Areas, Semi-industrialised in the East, and pre-industrialised in Armenia and Northern Syria.

Army Description: The Turkish National Army is designed under a two-tier system, with the Turkish People's Army to be considered the largest one, ranging with around 40,000 troops under it's heath. The people's army is considered the least funded, with the Ottoman Army considered the far-superior army, although both remain in the same command of the 3 Generals. With 5,000 troops under it's belt, it was far-stronger equipment, and is the army mostly used in border clashes with Southern Syrian Armies. The people's army is considered a patrol army, due to its lack of experience in conflict.
Army Weakness: The armies weakness is both it's lack of numbers and it's lack of organisation, mostly due to the cultural and economic split between the People's and Ottoman army, which has led to poor displays of the Turkish forces.
Naval Description: Since the Ottoman Empire's decline and ultimate ending in the mid-18th century, Greater Turkey managed to retain the majority of the Ottoman Naval Forces, although only an estimated 35% are operational. Despite the lack of operational naval equipment, Greater Turkey's 1774 Naval Expansion sees country portraying a navy the size of a great power, however, it's operational uses match those within Eastern Europe.
Naval Weakness: The lack of naval operational equipment and a disorganised navy hierarchy, dominated by a authoritarian admiral and general dominance has led to the Turkish navy being stunted in development, in which may take even centuries for the majority of the navy to become operational, and with ships being fairly old, most originating from the late 17th century's and some being from the mid-1600's, the Turkish Navy remains in heavy doubt and question.

National Goals: Defeat South Syrian Tribes in a major offensive, Industrialise Eastern Turkey, reorganise the navy and begin expansion into Europe in a long-term project.
National Issues:
Armenian Question - Armenia's independence movement is strong, and with the recent 1778 Uprising, which was ultimately unsuccessful, but to show that Turkey must force the Turkish culture into them.

Young Turk Movement - the young turk movement, most prominent in the capital, has been a pro-democratic, pro-liberal and pro-free market movement, mostly popular under the youth, which seek to adopt a more western-styled country. Although the movement is mostly peaceful, it's political popularity under the youth may soon bite the Sultans reign back.

Economic Inequality - Comparing Eastern Turkey and Armenia would be completely different, and the difference in economic activity and prosperity has led to questions of self-determination in many regions - and with the centralised power in Istanbul, less prosperous provinces may seek increased autonomy.

Crumbling Empire - The 1732 Ottoman Collapse was a disaster for the sultan, who saw an empire stretching from Istanbul to Serbia crumble. A mass of conflicts saw the 1735 Istanbul Treaty, which was a series of treaties which portioned independence to almost all of the occupied territory, expect Northern Syria and Armenia, who remained in the empire. The embarrassment of the Istanbul Treaty has been with Greater Turkey ever since, and with stagnated economy, poor military and a loud independence movement in Armenia and Northern Syria, the decline of the empire remains so, even if the countries aims remain to expansion to the west.

History : The Ottoman Remains to it's historical accuracy until the mid-17th century, when a series of political reforms, which gave more power to local governors, saw the Ottoman-Arabian War of 1645, which saw an autonomous republic established after a defeated Ottoman army. A stagnated economy following the Famine of 1651 and the short-lived economic depression of 1653 saw the autonomous republic of Iraq demand autonomous status, which was denied after an attempted siege on Iraq's regional capital failed. Known as the Iraqi Insurgency, which took place between 1654 - 1657, which once more saw an autonomous republic established - these series of defeats would inevitably lead to the collapse of the Ottoman Empire.

However, the countries next conflict only raised in 1702, when a series of internal conflicts led to a string of battles between Ottoman Soldiers and Syrian Militants. The countries economy grossed back to pre-depression levels, and allowed new nationalised reforms to kick in, leading to victory in 1704. Now seeing a new, brighter future for the empire, soon enough, it would all go away. In 1731, the Sultan announced a mass centralisation plan, which would direct all trade routes to favour to Turkish holdings, leading to mass famines and unrest in non-turkic areas. This distorts and economically terrible idea led to the 1732 Ottoman Collapse, which saw mass riots and conflicts between internal militants, including an attempted coup in Istanbul. Although it seemed to get passed, international recommendations and a collapse in trade to the country led to the embarrassing 1734 treaty of Istanbul, which peacefully dismantled the Ottoman Empire, freeing up almost 11 new countries.

From then on, a new Turkish state was established under the original sultan, who looked to preserve an ottoman state in Turkey. Although it saw initial economic prosperity in the 1730's and 40's, the overspending military and a unorganised navy saw the countries debts see a large hike, which led to the inevitable Turkish Economic Collapse in 1757. This would lead to a mass of reforms, nationalising major industries which had started as private due to the collapse of the empire. However, the over-amassed debt would soon be solved after large cuts of the budget, known as the "Turkish Budget Reforms". After the debts were paid and nationalised settled in, the economy was back on it's feet, remains stable ever since.

The 1760's and early 70's were mostly associated with a serious of expansions into Middle Syria, of which looked to begin an offensive against rouge states in the Syrian area. Although they are successful, Turkey's poor supply line prevented a major offensive. The 60's, especially the late 60's, was a period of unrest in Armenia and Istanbul, which saw the popularity of the Young Turk Movement in the capital and the indepdance movement in Armenia. The 70's, and up to present day, the economy has slumped due to civil unrest, unemployment has seen a sharp rise due to a poor economy and lack of pay, and unrest in Syria and Armenia remain high.
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Nation Name: West ottomans (name pending)
Territory: Greece, North Macedonia, West thrace, Bulgaria, Montenegro, Southern serbia (Including kosovo), and Albania
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I'm giving these guys a bump in case they get lost in the thread.

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Postby Danceria » Sat Jun 18, 2022 7:41 pm

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Postby Sao Nova Europa » Sun Jun 19, 2022 6:31 am

Mifan wrote:
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Nation Name: Oda Shogunate/Japan
Territory: Japanese Home Islands, Sakhalin, Kuril Islands
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Reservation noted.
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Postby Sao Nova Europa » Sun Jun 19, 2022 6:32 am

The Pearl River wrote:
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Nation Name: West ottomans (name pending)
Territory: Greece, North Macedonia, West thrace, Bulgaria, Montenegro, Southern serbia (Including kosovo), and Albania
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Reservation also noted.

Greater Cornwallis wrote:Nation Name: Sultanate of Greater Turkey


Will be adding you on map and reviewing your app shortly.
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Albatania
Political Columnist
 
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Founded: Feb 18, 2020
Ex-Nation

Postby Albatania » Sun Jun 19, 2022 9:20 am

Reservation

Nation Name: The Austral Republics
Territory: A narrow strip of land between Melbourne and Newcastle, as well as coastal settlements in Brisbane and Perth
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Greater Cornwallis
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Posts: 15
Founded: Apr 21, 2022
Ex-Nation

Postby Greater Cornwallis » Sun Jun 19, 2022 11:06 am

Sao Nova Europa wrote:
The Pearl River wrote:
Reservation

Nation Name: West ottomans (name pending)
Territory: Greece, North Macedonia, West thrace, Bulgaria, Montenegro, Southern serbia (Including kosovo), and Albania
#AER (Do not delete this, it is used to keep track of the apps)


Reservation also noted.

Greater Cornwallis wrote:Nation Name: Sultanate of Greater Turkey


Will be adding you on map and reviewing your app shortly.


Thank you. I will probably make a more in-depth history over the decline, but the application is just going over major events.

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Sao Nova Europa
Minister
 
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Founded: Apr 20, 2019
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Sao Nova Europa » Sun Jun 19, 2022 2:09 pm

Updated map. Notify me of any mistakes.

Next week we will be starting IC. Hopefully by then we will enough apps finished/accepted to be able to begin the RP. :)
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“In war, to keep the upper hand, you have to think two or three moves ahead of the enemy.”
- Char Aznable

"Strategy without tactics is the slowest route to victory. Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat."
- Sun Tzu

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Chinniwana
Envoy
 
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Founded: Feb 28, 2018
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Postby Chinniwana » Sun Jun 19, 2022 2:54 pm

Burgenreich wrote:
Greater Cornwallis wrote:CODE: SELECT ALL
[Remove my instructions from your app, including this one]
Nation Name: Sultanate of Greater Turkey


I like that we both agreed not to touch Georgia. :lol:

I'll start working on my App later today.

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Reverend Norv
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Postby Reverend Norv » Sun Jun 19, 2022 2:55 pm

On the previous map, the Thirteen Colonies had Florida. I don't much care either way, but I'd like some clarification for my app, since there is a reference to Florida having been incorporated into Georgia.
For really, I think that the poorest he that is in England hath a life to live as the greatest he. And therefore truly, Sir, I think it's clear that every man that is to live under a Government ought first by his own consent to put himself under that Government. And I do think that the poorest man in England is not at all bound in a strict sense to that Government that he hath not had a voice to put himself under.
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Sao Nova Europa
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Postby Sao Nova Europa » Sun Jun 19, 2022 3:21 pm

Reverend Norv wrote:On the previous map, the Thirteen Colonies had Florida. I don't much care either way, but I'd like some clarification for my app, since there is a reference to Florida having been incorporated into Georgia.


Fixed the map :)
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- Guo Jing ‘The Brave Archer’.

“In war, to keep the upper hand, you have to think two or three moves ahead of the enemy.”
- Char Aznable

"Strategy without tactics is the slowest route to victory. Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat."
- Sun Tzu

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Chinniwana
Envoy
 
Posts: 267
Founded: Feb 28, 2018
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Chinniwana » Sun Jun 19, 2022 3:34 pm

Sao Nova Europa wrote:
Fixed the map :)


Also just a heads up, my Claims on Bahrain and Oman were left out. You don't have to update the map immediately for it, but I would like to keep those if possible.

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Burgenreich
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Posts: 60
Founded: Jun 07, 2022
Ex-Nation

Postby Burgenreich » Sun Jun 19, 2022 4:27 pm

To anyone looking at this for the first time, it would be awesome if we got two or three players in India (besides the European powers). You could claim a lot of territory if you wanted to, with the proper justification. But if you do decide to hitch it in India, I recommend leaving space for neighbors since you'll probably have a more interesting time than if you were the sole Indian ruler in the area.

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Union Princes
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Founded: Nov 02, 2017
Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Union Princes » Sun Jun 19, 2022 4:33 pm

So Liverpool, how did Ruthenia conquer East Prussia?
There is no such thing as peace, only truce between wars

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Danceria
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Founded: Aug 13, 2015
Ex-Nation

Postby Danceria » Sun Jun 19, 2022 6:01 pm

Reservation

Nation Name: Travidan Empire, sometimes called the Tamil Empire
Territory: Sri Lanka, Tamil Nadu, Kerala, Lakshadweep, Karnataka, Goa, and Telangana that do not contest with other claimants.
#AER (Do not delete this, it is used to keep track of the apps)
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Union Princes
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Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Union Princes » Sun Jun 19, 2022 7:10 pm

Danceria wrote:
Reservation

Nation Name: Travidan Empire, sometimes called the Tamil Empire
Territory: Sri Lanka, Tamil Nadu, Kerala, Lakshadweep, Karnataka, Goa, and Telangana that do not contest with other claimants.
#AER (Do not delete this, it is used to keep track of the apps)


Celyon is a German colony here
There is no such thing as peace, only truce between wars

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