[DRAFT] Bye Bye Binary Bathrooms

[Kiddian States]

After your administration declared that there are more than two genders, many non-binary rights activists have realized that the nations public bathroom are still separated into men’s and women’s. After being pressured by the LGBTQ+ community, you have decided to hold a meeting to discuss this glaring hole in your policy.

Invalid for all nations that have banned non-binary people

Option 21
Civil rights activist @@RANDOMNAME@@ takes a pink feathered boa out of @@HIS@@ purse and puts it on. “I think there’s a simple solution that we’re all forgetting. Why have separated bathrooms anyway? I mean, it’s basically segregation! Alright, sure, if we made all bathrooms gender-neutral, there’d be more charges of sexual assault and such, but we’re talking equality, not crime prevention! Do you want to be like Blackacre, @@LEADER@@?”

Option 2
Your Minister of Equality tears off his face. Except, instead of your minister, it’s actually noted ‘family rights activist’, @@RANDOMNAME@@ in disguise. “See how complicated it gets when you allow people to think there are more than two genders? Just think, @@LEADER@@, this problem would completely vanish if you banned those non-binary freaks.” @@HE@@ dives out the window after your security rushes to apprehend @@HIM@@

@@NAME@@ has adopted an anti-neutrality policy

Option 3
LGBTQ rights activist, @@RANDOMNAME@@ tosses the pink feathered boa in the trash before speaking. “@@LEADER@@, I think you’ve made it clear that the @@DEMONYMADJECTIVE@@ government recognizes more than two genders. It only makes sense that there’d be restrooms for all genders. Of course, it’s not as easy as just adding a non-binary bathroom—there are lots more genders than that, after all—but I think that a little bit of renovation is a small price to pay for equality. Don’t worry, though, I’m not suggesting full-fledged restrooms for every gender—some would hardly get used—just a couple of stalls for the more obscure genders.”

@@NAME@@ is famous for their hundred-room public bathrooms

After your administration declared that there are more than two genders, many non-binary rights activists have realized that the nations public bathroom are still separated into men’s and women’s. After being pressured by the LGBTQ+ community, you have decided to hold a meeting to discuss this glaring hole in your policy.

Invalid for all nations that have banned non-binary people

Option 1
LGBTQ rights activist, @@RANDOMNAME@@ tosses a pink feathered boa in the trash before speaking. “@@LEADER@@, I think you’ve made it clear that the @@DEMONYMADJECTIVE@@ government recognizes more than two genders. It only makes sense that there’d be restrooms for all genders. Of course, it’s not as easy as just adding a non-binary bathroom—there are lots more genders than that, after all—but I think that a little bit of renovation is a small price to pay for equality. And some public restrooms need it, too. Like the one in the gas station I stopped at on my way here.” @@HE@@ looks visibly repulsed

@@NAME@@ is famous for their hundred-room public bathrooms

Option 2
Civil rights activist @@RANDOMNAME@@ hastily grabs the boa out of the trash, dusts it off, then dons it. “I think there’s a simple solution that we’re all forgetting. Why have separated bathrooms anyway? I mean, it’s basically segregation! Alright, sure, if we made all bathrooms gender-neutral, there’d be more charges of sexual assault and such, but we’re talking equality, not crime prevention! At least this way, we wouldn’t have to expand pretty much every public building.”

Option 3
Your Minister of Equality tears off his face. Except, instead of your minister, it’s actually noted ‘family rights activist’, @@RANDOMNAME@@ in disguise. “See how complicated it gets when you allow people to think there are more than two genders? Just think, @@LEADER@@, this problem would completely vanish if you banned those non-binary freaks.” @@HE@@ dives out the window after your security rushes to apprehend @@HIM@@

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[Kiddian States]

Before you say anything, yes, I know the title sucks, it’s a placeholder. Titles are hard
I’d be happy to take suggestions

[Krogon]

Although the last effect line is clever in that it's binary, I'm not sure it would fit in the game as an effect line.

Also, I'm guessing you meant "instead of your minister," instead of "it's your minister."

Not sure I totally get the joke of why the last person has a mask on though...are you riffing on the fact that transgender people dress as their preferred gender?

[Kiddian States]

Although the last effect line is clever in that it's binary, I'm not sure it would fit in the game as an effect line.

Also, I'm guessing you meant "instead of your minister," instead of "it's your minister."

Not sure I totally get the joke of why the last person has a mask on though...are you riffing on the fact that transgender people dress as their preferred gender?

Yeah, I figured

Oh, sorry, I changed that part half way through writing it

This was meant to say that the person wasn’t invited, they showed up in disguise so they could be in on the decision. It has nothing to to with being trans

[Vuisner]

I accidentally selected the wrong option and now I’m very annoyed

[Kiddian States]

I accidentally selected the wrong option and now I’m very annoyed

…wrong page, I think

[Krogon]

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This was meant to say that the person wasn’t invited, they showed up in disguise so they could be in on the decision. It has nothing to to with being trans[/quote]

perhaps make this a little more evident

[Tinhampton]

Gender-neutral toilets, even in nations that recognise multiple genders, are
A: few and far between and
B: not typically installed to cater specifically for the needs of the non-binary population.

Why is this an issue for @@LEADER@@ rather than whoever maintains the public bathrooms, other than "being pressured by the LGBTQ+ community?"

Why does the speaker in Option 1 want bathrooms for every gender? This is not the case even in the most tolerant workplaces.

[Kiddian States]

Gender-neutral toilets, even in nations that recognise multiple genders, are
A: few and far between and
B: not typically installed to cater specifically for the needs of the non-binary population.

Why is this an issue for @@LEADER@@ rather than whoever maintains the public bathrooms, other than "being pressured by the LGBTQ+ community?"

Why does the speaker in Option 1 want bathrooms for every gender? This is not the case even in the most tolerant workplaces.

I’m aware, it just seems rather contradictory to officially recognize more than two genders, and then have a very binary bathroom system. Also, there doesn’t have to be an irl precedent for an issue.
As for why it’s an issue for Leader, LGBTQ rights activists would try to go to whoever would be able to change the system across the nation, rather than like 5 maximum public restrooms. The group who has that power is the government, and for simplicity’s sake, they’d be in charge of making that change

[Kiddian States]

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[West Barack and East Obama]

Which nation is choosing the first option? That’s simply insane.

[Australian rePublic]

Please include an option with regards to urinals

[Australian rePublic]

Also, there could be more interesting storyline leading to how this became a national issue- women often avoid the queues to the toilet by going to the men's toilets, but the one time that men go into the women's toilets to avoid queues, they're labeled as perverts. That would be a far more interesting storyline than people randomly deciding to have gender neutral toilets. Now, of coarse, the main issue could still be centred around LGBT issues, but my idea would be for storytelling purposes

. This could also lead to an interesting follow up issue of whether this applies to new toilets or if old ones have to be retrofitted

[Ko-oren]

Watch for major overlap with #538, which is more of an issue about women, but the theming and some of the options are very, very similar.

Please include an option with regards to urinals

Why?

[Australian rePublic]

Watch for major overlap with #538, which is more of an issue about women, but the theming and some of the options are very, very similar.

Please include an option with regards to urinals

Why?

Because it adds an interesting angle to this issue, and besides, it's something that is commonly discussed when it comes to genderless toilets IRL. Besides, it's something that'll inevitably come up. When designing new toilets, do you build them without urinals, which would take up more space, waste more water and be take longer to clean? Do you build them with existing urinal designs, which would mean fewer toilets for women, or something else? Those discussions are inevitable. Not to mention what happens to the urinals in former men's toilets when they're converted. Again, invitable.

[Kiddian States]

Watch for major overlap with #538, which is more of an issue about women, but the theming and some of the options are very, very similar.


Why?

Because it adds an interesting angle to this issue, and besides, it's something that is commonly discussed when it comes to genderless toilets IRL. Besides, it's something that'll inevitably come up. When designing new toilets, do you build them without urinals, which would take up more space, waste more water and be take longer to clean? Do you build them with existing urinal designs, which would mean fewer toilets for women, or something else? Those discussions are inevitable. Not to mention what happens to the urinals in former men's toilets when they're converted. Again, invitable.

I see your point, but I think that’d be better for a follow-up issue. After all, it has little to do with the issue at hand

[Australian rePublic]

Because it adds an interesting angle to this issue, and besides, it's something that is commonly discussed when it comes to genderless toilets IRL. Besides, it's something that'll inevitably come up. When designing new toilets, do you build them without urinals, which would take up more space, waste more water and be take longer to clean? Do you build them with existing urinal designs, which would mean fewer toilets for women, or something else? Those discussions are inevitable. Not to mention what happens to the urinals in former men's toilets when they're converted. Again, invitable.

I see your point, but I think that’d be better for a follow-up issue. After all, it has little to do with the issue at hand

Carry on

[Australian rePublic]

There could be more interesting storyline leading to how this became a national issue- women often avoid the queues to the toilet by going to the men's toilets, but the one time that men go into the women's toilets to avoid queues, they're labeled as perverts. That would be a far more interesting storyline than people randomly deciding to have gender neutral toilets. Now, of coarse, the main issue could still be centred around LGBT issues, but my idea would be for storytelling purposes

. This could also lead to an interesting follow up issue of whether this applies to new toilets or if old ones have to be retrofitted

[USS Monitor]

Option 2
Civil rights activist @@RANDOMNAME@@ hastily grabs the boa out of the trash, dusts it off, then dons it. “I think there’s a simple solution that we’re all forgetting. Why have separated bathrooms anyway? I mean, it’s basically segregation! Alright, sure, if we made all bathrooms gender-neutral, there’d be more charges of sexual assault and such, but we’re talking equality, not crime prevention! At least this way, we wouldn’t have to expand pretty much every public building.”

Why is this person saying there would be more charges of sexual assault? That undermines his own position.

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I think this is a no-go because it does not make sense out of context on the nation page.

Watch for major overlap with #538, which is more of an issue about women, but the theming and some of the options are very, very similar.

This is worth thinking about, but not a dealbreaker IMO. The reason that sparked the debate is different.

[Australian rePublic]

Title idea: Bye Bye Binary Bathrooms

[Kiddian States]

Title idea: Bye Bye Binary Bathrooms

Thank you so much!
I was getting tired of the placeholder =P

[West Barack and East Obama]

I still don't understand anyone who would choose the first option. That's just not a realistic option at all.

[Australian rePublic]

Title idea: Bye Bye Binary Bathrooms

Thank you so much!
I was getting tired of the placeholder =P

With the exception of the title, have you gotten around to updating it?

[Kiddian States]

Thank you so much!
I was getting tired of the placeholder =P

With the exception of the title, have you gotten around to updating it?

I haven’t had the time, sorry

[Kiddian States]

I still don't understand anyone who would choose the first option. That's just not a realistic option at all.

Well, if you prioritized equality over other things, you would