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[SUBMITTED] Lovely Jubbly

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Postby Baggieland » Sun May 29, 2022 4:06 am

In honour of the upcoming Platinum Jubilee. :)

[TITLE] Lovely Jubbly

[DESCRIPTION] It's time to celebrate @@NAME@@! The Jubilee of our long reigning Monarch is fast approaching and citizens up and down the country are having their say on the best way to observe this milestone.

[VALIDITY] has a monarchy

[OPTION] "This is going to be marvellous," declares life-long royalist Elizabeth Coburg, as she twirls around in her new @@DEMONYMADJ@@ flag-themed dress. "The government should spare no expense for this special occasion. I want to see the Monarch ride down @@CAPITAL@@ High Street in a gold coach, our flag flying from every government building and bunting for every street in the country. Don't forget all the food too, I've already baked a 'Coronation cake', would you like a slice?"

[EFFECT] hospitals are full as @@DEMONYMPLURAL@@ celebrate the Jubilee with royal jelly on toast

[OPTION] "Perhaps we could cut down on the expenditure a bit," muses @@RANDOMMALENAME@@, a notorious penny-pincher, as he repairs the frame of his broken glasses with sellotape. "I agree that we should mark this occasion, but we definitely don't need a gold coach nor bunting for every street. Just have the Royal Family give a quick speech from their balcony... that's enough. Oh, and we certainly don't need any fancy food either, cucumber sandwiches will suffice."

[EFFECT] the royal yacht has been replaced by a canoe

[OPTION] "What's the point of this fascist regime?" rages Sidney Beverley, a member of the infamous punk band 'The Shag Guns'. "Why do we put up with these parasites? Because tourists are money? I tell you, man, @@NAME@@ is dreaming if we think this is something to celebrate. Get rid of the monarchy now!"

[EFFECT] the former royal palace is now a recording studio


[TITLE] Lovely Jubbly

[DESCRIPTION] It's time to celebrate @@NAME@@! The Jubilee of our long reigning Monarch is fast approaching and citizens up and down the country are having their say on the best way to observe this milestone.

[VALIDITY] has a monarchy

[OPTION] "This is going to be marvellous," declares life-long royalist Elizabeth Coburg, as she twirls around in her new @@DEMONYMADJ@@ flag-themed dress. "The government should spare no expense for this special occasion. I want to see the Monarch ride down @@CAPITAL@@ High Street in a gold coach, our flag flying from every government building and bunting for every street in the country. Don't forget all the food too, I've already baked a 'Coronation cake', would you like a slice?"

[EFFECT] hospitals are full as @@DEMONYMPLURAL@@ celebrate the Jubilee with royal jelly on toast

[OPTION] "Perhaps we could cut down on the expenditure a bit," muses @@RANDOMMALENAME@@, a notorious penny-pincher, as he repairs the frame of his broken glasses with sellotape. "I agree that we should mark this occasion, but we definitely don't need a gold coach nor bunting for every street. Just have the Royal Family give a quick speech from their balcony... that's enough. Oh, and we certainly don't need any fancy food either, cucumber sandwiches will suffice."

[EFFECT] the royal yacht has been replaced by a canoe

[OPTION] "Why should we pay anything for their stupid party?" rages Sidney Beverley, a member of the infamous punk band 'The Shag Guns'. "Tourists are money? Then let the cost of this forgettable occasion come from their own pockets. In fact, the government should give everyone a tax-break and end spending on the royals. If they need yachts and butlers and stuff, then they can pay for it themselves. @@NAME@@ is dreaming if we think this is something to celebrate."

[EFFECT] the royal family has opened a tacky souvenir store in front of the palace
Last edited by Baggieland on Sun Jun 05, 2022 3:19 am, edited 3 times in total.

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Postby Gonswanza » Sun May 29, 2022 4:14 am

Just a minor critique here but, wouldn't the last option (option 3) remove the monarchy and instead change the government to some other form entirely? Most likely defaulting to a democracy (which afaik doesn't have a policy title), hence adding another effect to option 3 beyond what is inferred by the (written) effect.

Granted, given what is said, I don't think it has enough weight to "dissolve" the government (and the option certainly isn't worded as such), but that's just one minor oddity that stuck out to me.
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Postby Harjanika » Sun May 29, 2022 4:18 am

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Postby Baggieland » Sun May 29, 2022 4:22 am

Gonswanza wrote:Just a minor critique here but, wouldn't the last option (option 3) remove the monarchy and instead change the government to some other form entirely? Most likely defaulting to a democracy (which afaik doesn't have a policy title), hence adding another effect to option 3 beyond what is inferred by the (written) effect.

Granted, given what is said, I don't think it has enough weight to "dissolve" the government (and the option certainly isn't worded as such), but that's just one minor oddity that stuck out to me.


Baggieland wrote:Get rid of the monarchy now!

I think that this last bit makes it pretty clear that option 3 is a policy reversal option for nations who wish to do so.

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Postby Gonswanza » Sun May 29, 2022 4:27 am

Baggieland wrote:
Gonswanza wrote:Just a minor critique here but, wouldn't the last option (option 3) remove the monarchy and instead change the government to some other form entirely? Most likely defaulting to a democracy (which afaik doesn't have a policy title), hence adding another effect to option 3 beyond what is inferred by the (written) effect.

Granted, given what is said, I don't think it has enough weight to "dissolve" the government (and the option certainly isn't worded as such), but that's just one minor oddity that stuck out to me.


Baggieland wrote:Get rid of the monarchy now!

I think that this last bit makes it pretty clear that option 3 is a policy reversal option for nations who wish to do so.


Ah, I see. Perhaps the effect line is best written as such-

[EFFECT]@@LEADER@@ can't sleep, hugging six pillows while Rose Nightterrors is playing down the hall.

Or something to that effect.

Also yes, I tried to make a mild joke out of a reference to the Infected Mushroom song Pink Nightmares. But I think that's a bit of an unfunny stretch on my behalf.
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Postby Honeydewistania » Sun May 29, 2022 4:37 am

I think the Sex Pistols option should have a line that specifically references how the jubilee specifically is a waste of time/ludicrous, as at the moment it can be added to any monarchy issue
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Postby Baggieland » Sun May 29, 2022 4:40 am

Gonswanza wrote:EFFECT]@@LEADER@@ can't sleep, hugging six pillows while Rose Nightterrors is playing down the hall.

Or something to that effect.

Also yes, I tried to make a mild joke out of a reference to the Infected Mushroom song Pink Nightmares. But I think that's a bit of an unfunny stretch on my behalf.


I might change it to 'live & loud, punk & proud' as I've never heard of your guys! :)

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Postby Baggieland » Sun May 29, 2022 4:45 am

Honeydewistania wrote:I think the Sex Pistols option should have a line that specifically references how the jubilee specifically is a waste of time/ludicrous, as at the moment it can be added to any monarchy issue


Well, the Sex Pistols version of God Save the Queen was anti monarchy, not specifically anti jubilee.

Do you think that option 3 should just be a 'let's not celebrate the jubilee' rather than 'get rid of the monarchy entirely' option? And if so, why?

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Postby Honeydewistania » Sun May 29, 2022 4:58 am

Baggieland wrote:
Honeydewistania wrote:I think the Sex Pistols option should have a line that specifically references how the jubilee specifically is a waste of time/ludicrous, as at the moment it can be added to any monarchy issue


Well, the Sex Pistols version of God Save the Queen was anti monarchy, not specifically anti jubilee.

Do you think that option 3 should just be a 'let's not celebrate the jubilee' rather than 'get rid of the monarchy entirely' option? And if so, why?

Either would be fine by me, but I think that if you choose the abolish monarchy option the option should at least have the guy saying something about the jubilee sucking (and therefore the monarchy).
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Postby Baggieland » Sun May 29, 2022 5:03 am

Honeydewistania wrote:the option should at least have the guy saying something about the jubilee sucking (and therefore the monarchy).


Baggieland wrote:@@NAME@@ is dreaming if we think this is something to celebrate.


Does that not do it?

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Postby Socialist Ancomistan » Sun May 29, 2022 8:28 am

Gonswanza wrote:Just a minor critique here but, wouldn't the last option (option 3) remove the monarchy and instead change the government to some other form entirely? Most likely defaulting to a democracy (which afaik doesn't have a policy title), hence adding another effect to option 3 beyond what is inferred by the (written) effect.

Granted, given what is said, I don't think it has enough weight to "dissolve" the government (and the option certainly isn't worded as such), but that's just one minor oddity that stuck out to me.


I agree with the monarchy to democracy (as opposed to monarchy to fascism) belief. History shows that fascist regimes are basically absolute monarchies without the hereditary office
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Postby Baggieland » Sun May 29, 2022 6:14 pm

Socialist Ancomistan wrote:I agree with the monarchy to democracy (as opposed to monarchy to fascism) belief. History shows that fascist regimes are basically absolute monarchies without the hereditary office


The "fascist" bit is just a reference to the Sex Pistols song.

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Postby Saint Tomas and the Northern Ice Islands » Sun May 29, 2022 10:53 pm

Baggieland wrote:
Honeydewistania wrote:the option should at least have the guy saying something about the jubilee sucking (and therefore the monarchy).


Baggieland wrote:@@NAME@@ is dreaming if we think this is something to celebrate.


Does that not do it?

Sorry, didn't see that part - looks great to me!
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Postby Verdant Haven » Tue May 31, 2022 1:22 pm

Baggieland wrote:Do you think that option 3 should just be a 'let's not celebrate the jubilee' rather than 'get rid of the monarchy entirely' option? And if so, why?


As we currently have three times more "abolish the monarchy" options than "create a monarchy" options, I'd probably suggest the former. I think it would be in keeping with anti-monarchy positions to demand that if they want a party, they should pay for it themselves ("maybe with some of that money the Monarchists keep claiming they bring in!") - maybe add a couple demands about other things they should pay for as well, to make sure it isn't a "Dismiss" type of option.

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Postby Baggieland » Tue May 31, 2022 9:15 pm

Verdant Haven wrote:As we currently have three times more "abolish the monarchy" options than "create a monarchy" options, I'd probably suggest the former. I think it would be in keeping with anti-monarchy positions to demand that if they want a party, they should pay for it themselves ("maybe with some of that money the Monarchists keep claiming they bring in!") - maybe add a couple demands about other things they should pay for as well, to make sure it isn't a "Dismiss" type of option.


Thanks VH, in order not to have too many abolish monarchy options, the third option has been changed to let's not celebrate it.

Second draft is up.

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Postby Baggieland » Thu Jun 02, 2022 6:37 pm

I've changed the third effect line in the second draft.

Any more comments?

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Postby Baggieland » Sun Jun 05, 2022 3:20 am

I've gone ahead and submitted this one. Thanks everyone for your help.


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