Muqaddasian-Janpian War (OOC, sign-up closed)

[Janpia]

You cant really shoot down mine, since I have gained access of the entire coast, and guarding any jets from the east (see posts way earlier). If they ever detect some, they can destroy it, before your radars can detect them. And if theyre spotted, they can simply outrun it. Moving SAMs into the warzones just puts it into the death traps of SEAD. Especially since the airspace is being contested.

UUV's how can you even place it when I comb the entire coast from Route 55? Im only at 2 cities which are all under LaWS. Theyre by the sea remember? Sending drones there doesnt help.

You have controlled part of Jeddah. That is not “the entire coast”.

You don’t control the entire coast. I just send from north Arabia or Egypt. Job done.

The range from Jeddah and Yanbu is the entire major coast to Red Sea. Radars or our UAVs can see them.

Plus, UUV's can be distracted by the earlier towed anti-submarines we earlier setted up.

[Biladu Al Rafidayn]

You have controlled part of Jeddah. That is not “the entire coast”.

You don’t control the entire coast. I just send from north Arabia or Egypt. Job done.

The range from Jeddah and Yanbu is the entire major coast to Red Sea. Radars or our UAVs can see them.

Plus, UUV's can be distracted by the earlier towed anti-submarines we earlier setted up.

1- It isn’t
2- Since when did you control the whole area between them?

True. But still doesn’t explain how you shot lasers at them

[GreatOceania]

let's see Drone can have both their Radio and GPS signals jammed and they're not immune to radars-based weapons something I have been constantly doing in Egypt but you couldn't understand it and kept on using them. you can target and locate SAMs before you even get into the radar range with Beyond Visual Range Missiles

Which also have countermeasures. If all drones could be stopped by jamming drones wouldn’t be nearly as important
And also my aircraft.

and what countermeasures would those be because if i recall drones are controlled either be Radio Signals and/or GPS signals

[Biladu Al Rafidayn]

Which also have countermeasures. If all drones could be stopped by jamming drones wouldn’t be nearly as important
And also my aircraft.

and what countermeasures would those be because if i recall drones are controlled either be Radio Signals and/or GPS signals

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radar_j ... ermeasures

[Janpia]

The range from Jeddah and Yanbu is the entire major coast to Red Sea. Radars or our UAVs can see them.

Plus, UUV's can be distracted by the earlier towed anti-submarines we earlier setted up.

1- It isn’t
2- Since when did you control the whole area between them?

True. But still doesn’t explain how you shot lasers at them

One, my radars is long range anyway, reaching up to Suez. I already controlled Red Sea a long time. Route 55 SEAD, RI fleet sinking, our advance from Gulf of Aden, Kinzhals against Carriers, etc.

[Biladu Al Rafidayn]

1- It isn’t
2- Since when did you control the whole area between them?

True. But still doesn’t explain how you shot lasers at them

One, my radars is long range anyway, reaching up to Suez. I already controlled Red Sea a long time. Route 55 SEAD, RI fleet sinking, our advance from Gulf of Aden, Kinzhals against Carriers, etc.

Ok, no you didn’t? My ships are still there? Post, for RI fleet? I don’t control Gulf of Aden. What is Route 55?

[Janpia]

One, my radars is long range anyway, reaching up to Suez. I already controlled Red Sea a long time. Route 55 SEAD, RI fleet sinking, our advance from Gulf of Aden, Kinzhals against Carriers, etc.

Ok, no you didn’t? My ships are still there? Post, for RI fleet? I don’t control Gulf of Aden. What is Route 55?

You can search back for RI fleet being destroyed. Your fleet? I stated this a countless times already, we tried to sink them all at the Red Sea. From the Gulf of Aden, we started pushing. Destroying everything we spot on radar. No one answered to it despite like 2 posts if I can remember

Your carrier is pounded by a Kinzhal from a TU-160 bomber. Every ship you have is fired upon by dummy missiles and hypersonics.

[Biladu Al Rafidayn]

Ok, no you didn’t? My ships are still there? Post, for RI fleet? I don’t control Gulf of Aden. What is Route 55?

You can search back for RI fleet being destroyed. Your fleet? I stated this a countless times already, we tried to sink them all at the Red Sea. From the Gulf of Aden, we started pushing. Destroying everything we spot on radar. No one answered to it despite like 2 posts if I can remember

I was busy with OOC life and also with the tens of other posts.

[Janpia]

You can search back for RI fleet being destroyed. Your fleet? I stated this a countless times already, we tried to sink them all at the Red Sea. From the Gulf of Aden, we started pushing. Destroying everything we spot on radar. No one answered to it despite like 2 posts if I can remember

I was busy with OOC life and also with the tens of other posts.

Yea this is why I only post my entire operations in one post. And Im sure GO, Galapagos, and Gonswanza as well. And Toonga or TKI. Heck maybe even Phenyzia or Drakonk, to even Voidstania

[Imperial Rifta]

Your nation's full title: The Dominion of Imperial Rifta
Side supporting: Muqaddasia
Military Intervention: (Yes/No) No
How large is your intervention?: 1031500000 NSD in weapons (List Below)

-50,000,000 Riftan-made LAR-78 Rifles (3,500,000 NSD)
-25,000 Riftan-made HAAW-36 Anti-Armor Weapons (1,000,000,000 NSD)
-112 Riftan-made RRAVs (Armored Vehicles - 28,000,000 NSD)

[Biladu Al Rafidayn]

Your nation's full title: The Dominion of Imperial Rifta
Side supporting: Muqaddasia
Military Intervention: (Yes/No) No
How large is your intervention?: 1031500000 NSD in weapons (List Below)

-50,000,000 Riftan-made LAR-78 Rifles (3,500,000 NSD)
-25,000 Riftan-made HAAW-36 Anti-Armor Weapons (1,000,000,000 NSD)
-112 Riftan-made RRAVs (Armored Vehicles - 28,000,000 NSD)

Accepted

[Romanic Imperium]

Ok, no you didn’t? My ships are still there? Post, for RI fleet? I don’t control Gulf of Aden. What is Route 55?

You can search back for RI fleet being destroyed. Your fleet? I stated this a countless times already, we tried to sink them all at the Red Sea. From the Gulf of Aden, we started pushing. Destroying everything we spot on radar. No one answered to it despite like 2 posts if I can remember

Your carrier is pounded by a Kinzhal from a TU-160 bomber. Every ship you have is fired upon by dummy missiles and hypersonics.

That was not cannon. You literally godmodded saying hypersonic missiles can't be shot down when they definitely can

[GreatOceania]

You can search back for RI fleet being destroyed. Your fleet? I stated this a countless times already, we tried to sink them all at the Red Sea. From the Gulf of Aden, we started pushing. Destroying everything we spot on radar. No one answered to it despite like 2 posts if I can remember

Your carrier is pounded by a Kinzhal from a TU-160 bomber. Every ship you have is fired upon by dummy missiles and hypersonics.

That was not cannon. You literally godmodded saying hypersonic missiles can't be shot down when they definitely can

buddy unless you got an article that says otherwise its literally hard to shoot down a hypersonic missile going 5 times the speed of sound and on top of that it also doesn't help that they are maneuverable you however think using bullets and CIWs would work when in reality it doesn't

[Janpia]

You can search back for RI fleet being destroyed. Your fleet? I stated this a countless times already, we tried to sink them all at the Red Sea. From the Gulf of Aden, we started pushing. Destroying everything we spot on radar. No one answered to it despite like 2 posts if I can remember

Your carrier is pounded by a Kinzhal from a TU-160 bomber. Every ship you have is fired upon by dummy missiles and hypersonics.

That was not cannon. You literally godmodded saying hypersonic missiles can't be shot down when they definitely can

They. Cant. Show. Proof.

Even I rely on LaWS. And how can you defend it from 400 kms away?? Its like dodging a bullet on a tight space called Red sea. It launches and goes fast under the radars, making it hard to detect and intercept. You on the other hand, doesnt have it

EVERYTHING has defenses for SOMETHING RI. Wait till you know a damn nuke can be stopped.

[Gonswanza]

You can search back for RI fleet being destroyed. Your fleet? I stated this a countless times already, we tried to sink them all at the Red Sea. From the Gulf of Aden, we started pushing. Destroying everything we spot on radar. No one answered to it despite like 2 posts if I can remember

Your carrier is pounded by a Kinzhal from a TU-160 bomber. Every ship you have is fired upon by dummy missiles and hypersonics.

That was not cannon. You literally godmodded saying hypersonic missiles can't be shot down when they definitely can

Then humor me, how? A small radar profile paired to plasma stealth makes it almost impossible to intercept, even more with the missile's trajectory throwing it into a ballistic arc beyond the range of interception systems, with a hilariously small window for an intercept presenting itself in the terminal stages when the missile is (effectively) on top of the target, post-reentry, with the plasma sheath dissipating a second or less before impact.

Seriously, I bothered to look into the Kinzhal itself, it's been reported by multiple nations (IRL) as being "impossible to intercept" due to its trajectory and guidance, along with its capacity to maneuver from launch all the way to the final leg of the journey in the terminal stages specifically to counter countermeasures.

You'd have better luck intercepting a hypersonic glide vehicle given at least you'd have a slightly larger window DESPITE the heavy use of a plasma sheath at altitude along with sheer speed to carry the warhead to the target prior to diving upon it at a shallow angle, and that is AFTER it is launched out of atmosphere to gain potential energy, prior to throwing itself back into the atmosphere and later using sheer momentum and kinetic energy to glide to the target at altitude.

[Romanic Imperium]

That was not cannon. You literally godmodded saying hypersonic missiles can't be shot down when they definitely can

They. Cant. Show. Proof.

Even I rely on LaWS. And how can you defend it from 400 kms away?? Its like dodging a bullet on a tight space called Red sea. It launches and goes fast under the radars, making it hard to detect and intercept. You on the other hand, doesnt have it

EVERYTHING has defenses for SOMETHING RI. Wait till you know a damn nuke can be stopped.

One: I love how the only people talking are kto I see a pattern very t

Two. Hypersonic missiles can be shot down by bullet, laser, and missiles

[Gonswanza]

They. Cant. Show. Proof.

Even I rely on LaWS. And how can you defend it from 400 kms away?? Its like dodging a bullet on a tight space called Red sea. It launches and goes fast under the radars, making it hard to detect and intercept. You on the other hand, doesnt have it

EVERYTHING has defenses for SOMETHING RI. Wait till you know a damn nuke can be stopped.

One: I love how the only people talking are kto I see a pattern very t

Two. Hypersonic missiles can be shot down by bullet, laser, and missiles

I mean so far the people responding did research, unlike you and a few unnamed others who refuse to comment knowing that this is pretty much equal to talking to a brick wall, given the current discourse.

But I suppose you can keep with that hostile mindset instead of actually reading and digesting the counterargument.

[Aumbura]

Your nation's full title: The Democratic Republic of Aumbura
Side supporting: KTO
Military Intervention: No
How large is your intervention?:
A medium sized intervention. Aumbura will supply ample weapons, ammunition, and medical equipment to The Aquaria and Janpia. We will supply a total of 71 warships to both The Aquaria and Janpia to be used at their disposal, along with 85 bomber planes for each nation, 50 carrier ships for each nation, 220 ballistic missiles to each nation, 55 tanks for each nation, and a continuous stream of medical supplies that includes, but is not limited to, IV bags, painkillers, surgical tools, medical tents, medications, beds, and bandages.

[Romanic Imperium]

Your nation's full title: The Democratic Republic of Aumbura
Side supporting: KTO
Military Intervention: No
How large is your intervention?:
A medium sized intervention. Aumbura will supply ample weapons, ammunition, and medical equipment to The Aquaria and Janpia. We will supply a total of 71 warships to both The Aquaria and Janpia to be used at their disposal, along with 85 bomber planes for each nation, 50 carrier ships for each nation, 220 ballistic missiles to each nation, 55 tanks for each nation, and a continuous stream of medical supplies that includes, but is not limited to, IV bags, painkillers, surgical tools, medical tents, medications, beds, and bandages.

Traitor

[Aumbura]

Your nation's full title: The Democratic Republic of Aumbura
Side supporting: KTO
Military Intervention: No
How large is your intervention?:
A medium sized intervention. Aumbura will supply ample weapons, ammunition, and medical equipment to The Aquaria and Janpia. We will supply a total of 71 warships to both The Aquaria and Janpia to be used at their disposal, along with 85 bomber planes for each nation, 50 carrier ships for each nation, 220 ballistic missiles to each nation, 55 tanks for each nation, and a continuous stream of medical supplies that includes, but is not limited to, IV bags, painkillers, surgical tools, medical tents, medications, beds, and bandages.

Traitor

I'm only siding with a select two nations within the KTO, not the KTO as a whole. I'm simply interested in helping Janpia fight against censorship against collectivism. No other member nations in the KTO will be receiving supplies from me, and I don't plan on ever aiding them in a fight against you, nor do I ever plan on joining them.

[Romanic Imperium]

Traitor

I'm only siding with a select two nations within the KTO, not the KTO as a whole. I'm simply interested in helping Janpia fight against censorship against collectivism. No other member nations in the KTO will be receiving supplies from me, and I don't plan on ever aiding them in a fight against you, nor do I ever plan on joining them.

Your aiding the faction that commits war crimes

[Aumbura]

I'm only siding with a select two nations within the KTO, not the KTO as a whole. I'm simply interested in helping Janpia fight against censorship against collectivism. No other member nations in the KTO will be receiving supplies from me, and I don't plan on ever aiding them in a fight against you, nor do I ever plan on joining them.

Your aiding the faction that commits war crimes

I'm aiding two nations within the faction, not the faction itself. I'm still very much against Tonga among other members of the KTO. This particular fight has nothing to do with war crimes, and I am merely trying to ensure the continued survival of collectivism. I'm not even putting boots on the ground. By establishing communications with certain members of the KTO, there's a greater possibility of diplomatic justice for war crimes coming into fruition.

[Romanic Imperium]

Your aiding the faction that commits war crimes

I'm aiding two nations within the faction, not the faction itself. I'm still very much against Tonga among other members of the KTO. This particular fight has nothing to do with war crimes, and I am merely trying to ensure the continued survival of collectivism. I'm not even putting boots on the ground. By establishing communications with certain members of the KTO, there's a greater possibility of diplomatic justice for war crimes coming into fruition.

Some of their leading members are war criminals. Gonswanza arguably has also committed war crimes. And janpia started the war. Your supporting the wrong side . I wish I didn't have too but all of your ships passing through my waters will be detained

[GreatOceania]

I'm aiding two nations within the faction, not the faction itself. I'm still very much against Tonga among other members of the KTO. This particular fight has nothing to do with war crimes, and I am merely trying to ensure the continued survival of collectivism. I'm not even putting boots on the ground. By establishing communications with certain members of the KTO, there's a greater possibility of diplomatic justice for war crimes coming into fruition.

Some of their leading members are war criminals. Gonswanza arguably has also committed war crimes. And janpia started the war. Your supporting the wrong side . I wish I didn't have too but all of your ships passing through my waters will be detained

to put the "who shot first" argument to rest here is the link to who shot first

viewtopic.php?p=39578222#p39578222

[Imperial Rifta]

Just my two cents here; you’re not stopping the missile with today’s technology without a really lucky shot that the others will have to agree is logical. My advice is to cut your loss, and try to recuperate.