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[LEGALITY CHALLENGE] Crime Victims Res. Plagiarizes GA#247

Postby Comfed » Mon May 23, 2022 1:21 pm

Hi everyone,

The proposal "Crime Victims' Rights Act" is in violation of the plagiarism rule. The definitions in the proposal are mostly copied from GA#247, "Rights of Crime Victims", with some insignificant modifications to specific words, terms, or even the order of words or terms. I have bolded the parts which seem most obviously copied, but all of the definitions are copied to some extent with mostly minor, insubstantial changes in the wording of the proposal.
GA#247 - Rights of Crime Victims (Definitions Section)
"crime victim" as "a person who as part of a criminal prosecution is alleged to have suffered physical, emotional, or financial harm (actual or threatened) as a result of the criminal conduct of another, who is not simultaneously accused of criminal conduct of their own arising out of the same incident or occurrence." In the event that the crime causes the death or incapacitation of the crime victim, member nations may permit the crime victim's immediate family to exercise the rights afforded under this Act.

"the accused," as "a person who has been formally charged with a crime based on probable cause that they have committed a criminal offense."

"critical stage of the prosecution," as "any date or event at which a substantive or procedural element of the case is resolved or decided," including release hearings, hearings relating to the scheduling of trial, pre-trial evidentiary hearings, plea hearings, trials, sentencings, probation and parole hearings, and any other events deemed critical within the relevant national judicial system.

Crime Victims' Rights Act (Definitions Section)
“crime victim” as a person in a criminal prosecution who has presumably or allegedly been harmed in an emotional, physical, sexual, or financial manner or has been threatened to be harmed as a result of the criminal misconduct of another who is not simultaneously accused of another crime that occurred as a result from the same occurrence or incident.

“the accused” as a person who has been formally charged with a crime based on evidence that they have recently committed a criminal offense against the crime victim in a related case.

“critical stage of the prosecution” as any date or event in which a vital or jurisdictional component of the case is resolved or decided, including release hearings, hearings related to the trial’s scheduling, preliminary hearings, plea hearings, parole and probation hearings, trials, sentencing's, and other events deemed critical in the national justice system in question.

I think GenSec for its time in addressing these concerns. I was not entirely sure whether this should instead have been filed as a GHR but since the proposal progressed so far before anyone noticed I thought it would be appropriate to bring it up this way. Also, far as I can tell the rest of the proposal is not plagiarized, although the core ideas of much of the proposal seem taken from GA#247, and if the mods or GenSec want to just discard it then they can always read the thread :P

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Crime Victims' Rights Act - Forum Thread, Proposal in Queue
GA#247 - Forum Thread, Passed Resolution (NS version)
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Postby Bears Armed » Mon May 23, 2022 7:30 pm

Noted.
I'm inclined to agree about the illegality, and will contact the other GenSec members about this.

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Postby Fremenilia » Mon May 23, 2022 7:31 pm

While I see some differences, they seem like quick edits, so I agree with the accusation.
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Postby The Forest of Aeneas » Mon May 23, 2022 8:30 pm

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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Mon May 23, 2022 8:32 pm

I received the telegram from BA. I would, however, raise a jurisidictional question: who is in charge of the plagiarism rule? GenSec or the moderators? I had believed it was the moderators and had previously cleared some language for some of my proposals (prior to my appointment) with them under that belief. The predicate question should be addressed first.

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Postby Goobergunchia » Mon May 23, 2022 10:35 pm

(1) The alleged violation is for Plagiarism. Plagiarism is a violation of site rules and not merely General Assembly proposal rules. Accordingly, this issue is properly adjudicated by NS Moderation, not the Secretariat.

(2) The resolution clearly takes its definitional clauses from GA#247, written by Cowardly Pacifists. No permission, to our knowledge, was received from Cowardly Pacifists for the use of said clauses. Accordingly, the resolution is illegal for plagiarism and will be discarded following the vote.

(3) In the future, please file a Getting Help Request for plagiarism issues.

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Postby Comfed » Tue May 24, 2022 7:14 am

Goobergunchia wrote:(1) The alleged violation is for Plagiarism. Plagiarism is a violation of site rules and not merely General Assembly proposal rules. Accordingly, this issue is properly adjudicated by NS Moderation, not the Secretariat.

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(3) In the future, please file a Getting Help Request for plagiarism issues.

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Understood - thanks Goob :)
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Postby Free Religion » Thu May 26, 2022 7:32 am

I invented the word plagarisim

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Postby Fachumonn » Thu May 26, 2022 8:32 am

Free Religion wrote:I invented the word plagarisim

Then you ought to know how to spell it, right? :p


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Postby Quintessence of Dust » Thu May 26, 2022 11:03 am

Imperium Anglorum wrote:who is in charge of the plagiarism rule? GenSec or the moderators?

The mods. They're the experts.
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