American Politics XI: No Moe Roe(Likely, Anyway)

[Space Squid]

Debating Christianity in the CDT, is like trying to challenge Russian propaganda in Russia.

Well, in that case it should just be dropped if there's no where to debate it.

This isn't the place to debate Christian doctrine at any rate.

I'll tell you what. If Christian doctrine is never allowed to play any role in American politics ever, then we won't talk about it here.

Besides, when someone hostile to Christianity comes into the CDT, you guys get very annoyed and say that's not the place for such discussions either.

So this is really just an attempt to constrain the discussion.

[Tarsonis]

Well, in that case it should just be dropped if there's no where to debate it.

This isn't the place to debate Christian doctrine at any rate.

I'll tell you what. If Christian doctrine is never allowed to play any role in American politics ever, then we won't talk about it here.

Besides, when someone hostile to Christianity comes into the CDT, you guys get very annoyed and say that's not the place for such discussions either.

So this is really just an attempt to constrain the discussion.

It's almost like Hostility begets it in response. There's ways of debating Christianity without being hostile.

[Space Squid]

I'll tell you what. If Christian doctrine is never allowed to play any role in American politics ever, then we won't talk about it here.

Besides, when someone hostile to Christianity comes into the CDT, you guys get very annoyed and say that's not the place for such discussions either.

So this is really just an attempt to constrain the discussion.

It's almost like Hostility begets it in response. There's ways of debating Christianity without being hostile.

That's irrelevant to the point though. People who come into the CDT, with the intention to argue against Christianity, are told that it's not the place to do so whether they are polite or not.

So you can't challenge Christian doctrine outside of the CDT, and if you go there you can't do it either.

[The Jamesian Republic]

Okay. But what would happen to the economy though?

how would multinational corporations handle becoming globe-spanning worker-run cooperatives?

I don’t know, that’s why I’m asking.

I have these ideas in my head but I want to know if they are even possible.

[Tarsonis]

It's almost like Hostility begets it in response. There's ways of debating Christianity without being hostile.

That's irrelevant to the point though. People who come into the CDT, with the intention to argue against Christianity, are told that it's not the place to do so whether they are polite or not.

No, people who come into the CDT to exercise their need to call Christianity and Christians stupid/evil/etc are told that. It's pretty telling that you can't tell the difference.

So you can't challenge Christian doctrine outside of the CDT, and if you go there you can't do it either.

Challenging it is one thing, wanting to go off about how wrong you think Christinaity is another. Again, it's telling that you can't tell the difference.

[Des-Bal]

It's not really illogical to say pro-life supporters are not considering the life of the woman in all aspects.

Perhaps we should be more nuanced than simply using these phrases then.

Yes it is.

They're not supposed to be comprehensive they're supposed to be propaganda.

[San Lumen]

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/3 ... ive-clerk/

NPR reporter says ‘leading theory’ on SCOTUS leak is conservative clerk

[Heloin]

There are two possibilities. It’s a false flag or it’s real. The only difference between these two is it it’s a false flag it’s funny and incompetent and if it’s real it’s incompetent and I don’t really give a fuck.

Funny. If I had said that I don't care about abortion clinic bombings I imagine you'd all uphold me as an example of how evil pro-lifers are.

I would yeah.

How do you think this reflects on you?

I’m not lying to you and pretending that I think even for a second that anti-abortion activists have any positive point to be made.

[The Jamesian Republic]

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/3481235-npr-reporter-says-leading-theory-on-scotus-leak-is-conservative-clerk/

NPR reporter says ‘leading theory’ on SCOTUS leak is conservative clerk

Interesting.

[Tarsonis]

Funny. If I had said that I don't care about abortion clinic bombings I imagine you'd all uphold me as an example of how evil pro-lifers are.

I would yeah.

How do you think this reflects on you?

I’m not lying to you and pretending that I think even for a second that anti-abortion activists have any positive point to be made.

Irrelevant, you either accept violent action or your don't. You're just a tribalist hypocrit

[Salus Maior]

Funny. If I had said that I don't care about abortion clinic bombings I imagine you'd all uphold me as an example of how evil pro-lifers are.

I would yeah.

How do you think this reflects on you?

I’m not lying to you and pretending that I think even for a second that anti-abortion activists have any positive point to be made.

The feeling is mutual.

[Zurkerx]

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/3481235-npr-reporter-says-leading-theory-on-scotus-leak-is-conservative-clerk/

NPR reporter says ‘leading theory’ on SCOTUS leak is conservative clerk

Well, that might put a dent into the GOP's plan to blame a so-called "Liberal" clerk. And it appears this clerk (if it is true) would be someone that's trying to undermine Roberts' attempts to peel away a justice or two on this drafted opinion, meaning they're trying to keep the 5 majority opinion in tack. We'll have to wait and see who it is but if it is a Republican, then the dynamics change a bit although it won't help the Democratic Party win in the Midterms: they'll need a miracle on that front.

[Space Squid]

That's irrelevant to the point though. People who come into the CDT, with the intention to argue against Christianity, are told that it's not the place to do so whether they are polite or not.

No, people who come into the CDT to exercise their need to call Christianity and Christians stupid/evil/etc are told that. It's pretty telling that you can't tell the difference.

So you can't challenge Christian doctrine outside of the CDT, and if you go there you can't do it either.

Challenging it is one thing, wanting to go off about how wrong you think Christinaity is another. Again, it's telling that you can't tell the difference.

I feel as though you've just made an assumption about what I'm talking about, and then gotten very angry at me over your assumption.

I mean, "tell the difference" between what? What two examples do you believe that I'm pointing to, as being synonymous?

All I'm saying is that "Bring the topic to the CDT," is a dishonest tactic, and an all-around terrible idea. The CDT is not known for dealing with ideas respectfully or honestly.

[Heloin]

I would yeah.


I’m not lying to you and pretending that I think even for a second that anti-abortion activists have any positive point to be made.

Irrelevant, you either accept violent action or your don't. You're just a tribalist hypocrit

Violence against something bad is not bad. That the reason means nothing to you does not make it hypocrisy.

[Salus Maior]

All I'm saying is that "Bring the topic to the CDT," is a dishonest tactic, and an all-around terrible idea.

It's not though.

Putting topics into their relevant threads is what everyone does.

[Sordhau]

Violence against something bad is not bad.

Well, I think it depends on the bad. I think broccoli is bad but I don't believe in setting fire to... wherever it is broccoli comes from.

Nazis on the other hand...

[Salus Maior]

Violence against something bad is not bad.

Well, I think it depends on the bad. I think broccoli is bad but I don't believe in setting fire to... wherever it is broccoli comes from.

Nazis on the other hand...

If we can accurately define what a Nazi is.

Because last I checked, every president that's been elected in my lifetime have been called Nazis.

[Sordhau]

Well, I think it depends on the bad. I think broccoli is bad but I don't believe in setting fire to... wherever it is broccoli comes from.

Nazis on the other hand...

If we can accurately define what a Nazi is.

Because last I checked, every president that's been elected in my lifetime have been called Nazis.

"Is the bald man with a hakenkreuz tattoo and doing a Roman salute while speaking German nationalist phrases and calling for the death of Jews a Nazi? Who is to say! It's all a matter of opinion."

This and more cringe takes from the "both sides" crowd.

[Suriyanakhon]

If we can accurately define what a Nazi is.

Because last I checked, every president that's been elected in my lifetime have been called Nazis.

"Is the bald man with a hakenkreuz tattoo and doing a Roman salute while speaking German nationalist phrases and calling for the death of Jews a Nazi? Who is to say! It's all a matter of opinion."

This and more cringe takes from the "both sides" crowd.

[Punished UMN]

Probably would not be wise to tiptoe on the line of advocating violence in a very active thread.

[Sordhau]

Probably would not be wise to tiptoe on the line of advocating violence in a very active thread.

I don't think anybody has outright *advocated* for it. I certainly didn't.

But fair enough all the same.

[Salus Maior]

If we can accurately define what a Nazi is.

Because last I checked, every president that's been elected in my lifetime have been called Nazis.

"Is the bald man with a hakenkreuz tattoo and doing a Roman salute while speaking German nationalist phrases and calling for the death of Jews a Nazi? Who is to say! It's all a matter of opinion."

This and more cringe takes from the "both sides" crowd.

Because that's what I said, obviously.

[Mettaton-EX]

Well, I think it depends on the bad. I think broccoli is bad but I don't believe in setting fire to... wherever it is broccoli comes from.

Nazis on the other hand...

If we can accurately define what a Nazi is.

Because last I checked, every president that's been elected in my lifetime have been called Nazis.

head of a genocidal neocolonial power, nazi, tomayto, tomahto

[Salus Maior]

If we can accurately define what a Nazi is.

Because last I checked, every president that's been elected in my lifetime have been called Nazis.

head of a genocidal neocolonial power, nazi, tomayto, tomahto

Ok, but that definition has a problem. Only heads of state can be Nazis, which we know isn't true.

[Sordhau]

"Is the bald man with a hakenkreuz tattoo and doing a Roman salute while speaking German nationalist phrases and calling for the death of Jews a Nazi? Who is to say! It's all a matter of opinion."

This and more cringe takes from the "both sides" crowd.

Because that's what I said, obviously.

You're missing the point. That being that Nazi has a definition and it doesn't matter if people disagree with it, it still doesn't change. A Nazi is still a Nazi by definition even if nobody calls them that.