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The Unofficial Stat Idea Thread

Postby Kiddian States » Sun May 08, 2022 10:23 am

I was thinking, if I have ideas about ns stats, surely other people do too. They’d also probably appreciate a place to put those ideas. So I decided to make this.
Plus, it means less work for the devs while getting the community involved.

Feel free to put stat ideas down below
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Postby Socialist Ancomistan » Sun May 08, 2022 10:29 am

I hope this thread will become popular! One of my "stats" ideas could be Generosity, which measures the inclusiveness and compassion of a nation, as well as it's average disposable income, income equality, and human development index
I'd say this nation is about 85-90% representative to my beliefs. About the only difference between my nation and beliefs is that free markets are effective in a select few situations, and the compulsory organ harvesting is kind of screwed up

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Postby Meadowfields » Sun May 08, 2022 10:30 am

Isn't generosity under beta testing?
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Postby Catalonia 2070 RP » Sun May 08, 2022 10:31 am

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Population growth, and every day the current population is multiplied by population growth instead of growing

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Postby Socialist Ancomistan » Sun May 08, 2022 10:31 am

It was in beta testing, but that was scrapped
I'd say this nation is about 85-90% representative to my beliefs. About the only difference between my nation and beliefs is that free markets are effective in a select few situations, and the compulsory organ harvesting is kind of screwed up

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Postby Imperial States of Duotona » Sun May 08, 2022 10:32 am

Perhaps we could have a "hostility" stat, which shows how aggressive a nation is when it comes to diplomacy.

Sure, someone may have a large army, but it really depends if they're willing to use it.
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Postby Meadowfields » Sun May 08, 2022 10:32 am

Socialist Ancomistan wrote:I hope this thread will become popular! One of my "stats" ideas could be Generosity, which measures the inclusiveness and compassion of a nation, as well as it's average disposable income, income equality, and human development index

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Postby The Orwell Society » Sun May 08, 2022 10:33 am

I have a few:
  • Industry: Entertainment (i.e music, movies, toys, etc)
  • Architecture (quality and creativity of the nation's architecture)
  • Political Popularity (how popular your nation's ideology is to the people, whether or not they like how the government is being run)
  • Laziness (a result of low productivity and high charmlessness)

These are not all my ideas, but I think they should be implimented.
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Postby Kiddian States » Sun May 08, 2022 10:52 am

The Orwell Society wrote:I have a few:
  • Industry: Entertainment (i.e music, movies, toys, etc)
  • Architecture (quality and creativity of the nation's architecture)
  • Political Popularity (how popular your nation's ideology is to the people, whether or not they like how the government is being run)
  • Laziness (a result of low productivity and high charmlessness)

These are not all my ideas, but I think they should be implimented.

The entertainment industry was suggested by me as well as a few other people
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Postby Kiddian States » Sun May 08, 2022 10:52 am

Imperial States of Duotona wrote:Perhaps we could have a "hostility" stat, which shows how aggressive a nation is when it comes to diplomacy.

Sure, someone may have a large army, but it really depends if they're willing to use it.

I think this is an excellent idea
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Postby Meadowfields » Sun May 08, 2022 10:53 am

Kiddian States wrote:
The Orwell Society wrote:I have a few:
  • Industry: Entertainment (i.e music, movies, toys, etc)
  • Architecture (quality and creativity of the nation's architecture)
  • Political Popularity (how popular your nation's ideology is to the people, whether or not they like how the government is being run)
  • Laziness (a result of low productivity and high charmlessness)

These are not all my ideas, but I think they should be implimented.

The entertainment industry was suggested by me as well as a few other people

Yes, I think the mods are planning it too, as I said in the other thread.
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Postby Kiddian States » Sun May 08, 2022 11:01 am

I’ve got another one!

Progressiveness
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Postby The Orwell Society » Sun May 08, 2022 11:11 am

Kiddian States wrote:I’ve got another one!

Progressiveness


In what context? Politically or generally?
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Postby Kiddian States » Sun May 08, 2022 11:19 am

The Orwell Society wrote:
Kiddian States wrote:I’ve got another one!

Progressiveness


In what context? Politically or generally?

Politically
Give me an example of being generally progressive, though
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Postby Meadowfields » Sun May 08, 2022 11:20 am

Kiddian States wrote:
The Orwell Society wrote:
In what context? Politically or generally?

Politically
Give me an example of being generally progressive, though

Like a society being acceptive of LGBTQ+ people, minorities, women, etc. Politically is like politically progressive parties reign the most influence.
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Postby Fachumonn » Sun May 08, 2022 11:22 am

Progressivism is a hard push for a stat. Personally don't see it being implemented.
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Postby Kiddian States » Sun May 08, 2022 11:29 am

Fachumonn wrote:Progressivism is a hard push for a stat. Personally don't see it being implemented.

Just an idea
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Postby Wansul » Sun May 08, 2022 11:33 am

Fachumonn wrote:Progressivism is a hard push for a stat. Personally don't see it being implemented.

I think it would make sense, and be just an opposite to social conservatism. If stats measure that, why not its inverse too? It lets you see what nations are the most progressive, rather than going to social conservatism and scraping the bottom of that list

Taxation and Freedom from Taxation work the same, so I don't think a Progressivism state should be ignored just because it's the inverse an another existing one
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Postby The Orwell Society » Sun May 08, 2022 11:38 am

Wansul wrote:
Fachumonn wrote:Progressivism is a hard push for a stat. Personally don't see it being implemented.

I think it would make sense, and be just an opposite to social conservatism. If stats measure that, why not its inverse too? It lets you see what nations are the most progressive, rather than going to social conservatism and scraping the bottom of that list

Taxation and Freedom from Taxation work the same, so I don't think a Progressivism state should be ignored just because it's the inverse an another existing one

I agree. You can base it off of things like Social Policy spending, social conservatism, civil rights, political freedoms, etc. It may be a little complicated, but I can see it being implimented.
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Postby Pangurstan » Sun May 08, 2022 11:38 am

Wansul wrote:
Fachumonn wrote:Progressivism is a hard push for a stat. Personally don't see it being implemented.

I think it would make sense, and be just an opposite to social conservatism. If stats measure that, why not its inverse too? It lets you see what nations are the most progressive, rather than going to social conservatism and scraping the bottom of that list

Taxation and Freedom from Taxation work the same, so I don't think a Progressivism state should be ignored just because it's the inverse an another existing one

The social conservatism stat is the inverse of the civil rights stat. The inclusiveness stat already measures acceptance of minorities, so I don't think we need a progressivism stat.
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Postby Fachumonn » Sun May 08, 2022 1:51 pm

Pangurstan wrote:
Wansul wrote:I think it would make sense, and be just an opposite to social conservatism. If stats measure that, why not its inverse too? It lets you see what nations are the most progressive, rather than going to social conservatism and scraping the bottom of that list

Taxation and Freedom from Taxation work the same, so I don't think a Progressivism state should be ignored just because it's the inverse an another existing one

The social conservatism stat is the inverse of the civil rights stat. The inclusiveness stat already measures acceptance of minorities, so I don't think we need a progressivism stat.

Said it better than I could.
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Postby Socialist Ancomistan » Sun May 08, 2022 2:14 pm

The Orwell Society wrote:I have a few:
  • Industry: Entertainment (i.e music, movies, toys, etc)
  • Architecture (quality and creativity of the nation's architecture)
  • Political Popularity (how popular your nation's ideology is to the people, whether or not they like how the government is being run)
  • Laziness (a result of low productivity and high charmlessness)

These are not all my ideas, but I think they should be implimented.


This! I feel like a lot of these would be good stats. I like the "Entertainment" industry one especially. Would "Political Popularity" be in any way affected by tinpot dictatorships, who's citizens would fear execution if they disagree with the ideaology?
I'd say this nation is about 85-90% representative to my beliefs. About the only difference between my nation and beliefs is that free markets are effective in a select few situations, and the compulsory organ harvesting is kind of screwed up

Equality > Freedom

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Postby Kiddian States » Sun May 08, 2022 2:20 pm

Governmental Effectiveness
Measures how effective a government is at rolling out social policy
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Postby Kiddian States » Sun May 08, 2022 2:21 pm

Imperial States of Duotona wrote:Perhaps we could have a "hostility" stat, which shows how aggressive a nation is when it comes to diplomacy.

Sure, someone may have a large army, but it really depends if they're willing to use it.

This could be measured in Threats Per Diplomatic Meeting
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Postby Kiddian States » Sun May 08, 2022 2:23 pm

Athleticism/Industry: Sports
Immigration/Emigration Rate
Homelessness
Isolationism

Just porting over some ideas from a different thread
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