The Land of Kings and Emperors Embassy

[Rose Weisberg-Talleyrand]

That was referring to LWU, a region we are not a part of anymore. Is that really your proof?

Firstly, the phrasing was: "other regions I am a part of". Meaning multiple regions that she was part of at that time.

Secondly, while it is conclusive in itself, that post is not the only evidence - but it is the evidence that was contained in a post that you referenced.

More generally, if UK's government wishes to come forward and categorically deny any communications by UK members to Astrid Weisberg-Talleyrand regarding the LKE's approach, then I invite them to do so. But both of their official responses thus far conspicuously ignored the matter of the disclosure.

After touching grass and cuddling my wife, I can confirm: Caer Sidi and LWU, regions she was a part of for a long time, were the regions she was referring to. She had no knowledge of LKE's attempts to get her to not be in the region.

[Onderkelkia]

Firstly, the phrasing was: "other regions I am a part of". Meaning multiple regions that she was part of at that time.

Secondly, while it is conclusive in itself, that post is not the only evidence - but it is the evidence that was contained in a post that you referenced.

More generally, if UK's government wishes to come forward and categorically deny any communications by UK members to Astrid Weisberg-Talleyrand regarding the LKE's approach, then I invite them to do so. But both of their official responses thus far conspicuously ignored the matter of the disclosure.

After touching grass and cuddling my wife, I can confirm: Caer Sidi and LWU, regions she was a part of for a long time, were the regions she was referring to. She had no knowledge of LKE's attempts to get her to not be in the region.

The LKE has made no communication whatsoever to Caer Sidi, and she was not a member of Lone Wolves United when she made that post.

[Rose Weisberg-Talleyrand]

After touching grass and cuddling my wife, I can confirm: Caer Sidi and LWU, regions she was a part of for a long time, were the regions she was referring to. She had no knowledge of LKE's attempts to get her to not be in the region.

The LKE has made no communication whatsoever to Caer Sidi, and she was not a member of Lone Wolves United when she made that post.

In addition to this, they've been going around to other regions I am a part of and tried to get them to remove me.

EDIT: This is the smoking gun quote, here for all to see.

My Good Sir, do you know WHY we are no longer in LWU?

I'll give you a hint, it's because you succeeded there.

[Onderkelkia]

The LKE has made no communication whatsoever to Caer Sidi, and she was not a member of Lone Wolves United when she made that post.

In addition to this, they've been going around to other regions I am a part of and tried to get them to remove me.

EDIT: This is the smoking gun quote, here for all to see.

My Good Sir, do you know WHY we are no longer in LWU?

I'll give you a hint, it's because you succeeded there.

Indeed, there was no "tried to get them" about it, unlike UK. LWU rightfully and honourably required Astrid Weisberg-Talleyrand to return the imperial territory - a region which was conquered by the Imperial Army and where Astrid Weisberg-Talleyrand came to hold the founder as an LKE military officer.

In a farcical attempt to exonerate UK after her earlier admission, you and Astrid Weisberg-Talleyrand have just named Caer Sidi, a region with which the LKE has had no contact whatsoever in relation to this matter. I think that rather confirms the credibility of your interventions in this thread.

[Astrid Weisberg-Talleyrand]

Indeed, there was no "tried to get them" about it, unlike UK. LWU rightfully and honourably required Astrid Weisberg-Talleyrand to return the imperial territory - a region which was conquered by the Imperial Army and where Astrid Weisberg-Talleyrand came to hold the founder as an LKE military officer.

In a farcical attempt to exonerate UK after her earlier admission, you and Astrid Weisberg-Talleyrand have just named Caer Sidi, a region with which the LKE has had no contact whatsoever in relation to this matter. I think that rather confirms the credibility of your interventions in this thread.

There's no honor in throwing away two officers, and the future khan. Over a meaningless stubborn has been. But we'll just have to agree to disagree there. How a member of the UK leaked anything to me, when we hadn't exchanged a single direct message or telegram is beyond me. So I'll just keep going with the time traveler narrative. I simply assumed you went to every single region I'm in or even moved a nation to at the time of that post. So as you confirmed you went to LWU, Kantrias, and the United Kingdom. Big whoop you didn't go to one.

[Onderkelkia]

Indeed, there was no "tried to get them" about it, unlike UK. LWU rightfully and honourably required Astrid Weisberg-Talleyrand to return the imperial territory - a region which was conquered by the Imperial Army and where Astrid Weisberg-Talleyrand came to hold the founder as an LKE military officer.

In a farcical attempt to exonerate UK after her earlier admission, you and Astrid Weisberg-Talleyrand have just named Caer Sidi, a region with which the LKE has had no contact whatsoever in relation to this matter. I think that rather confirms the credibility of your interventions in this thread.

There's no honor in throwing away two officers, and the future khan. Over a meaningless stubborn has been. But we'll just have to agree to disagree there. How a member of the UK leaked anything to me, when we hadn't exchanged a single direct message or telegram is beyond me. So I'll just keep going with the time traveler narrative. I simply assumed you went to every single region I'm in or even moved a nation to at the time of that post. So as you confirmed you went to LWU, Kantrias, and the United Kingdom. Big whoop you didn't go to one.

On the contrary, there is every honour in not permitting one's soldiers to seize the territory of a friendly region without consequence.

In an effort to think of a a region that you meant, other than the real answer (UK), you just guessed randomly and lied by claiming that the LKE contacted Caer Sidi, and that is what you meant rather than UK; when that is impossible, because the LKE never contacted Caer Sidi. As such, you will forgive me therefore if I attach no credibility to your claim not to have talked to any member of UK - a definition which would include Rose Weisberg-Talleyrand.

[Ryzalia VIII]

Statement by Former Prime Ministers of the United Kingdom
Statement 68-006
26.04.2022 - Day 10

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Citizens of the United Kingdom and any other persons who may read this statement,

In the face of recent events, the people of our great region have bonded together, putting differences aside and truly showing what makes our United Kingdom great. Our citizens have all shown, both here and abroad, how our region behaves itself, how we chart our own path and will never be dictated to. In the spirit of such unity, I am pleased to release the following statement signed by 8 former Prime Ministers of the United Kingdom jointly expressing their support for His Majesty's Government and our region in the face of hostility. As with any democracy, while we do not always agree on every issue, today we stand together. Thank you to this great group of statesmen and women for their support.

We are former Prime Ministers of the United Kingdom. Together we represent different political persuasions within the United Kingdom, and indeed, many of us have been political opponents of one another. But today we stand united as one. United in support of His Majesty’s Government and the position articulated by Prime Minister Sherwood, and united in condemnation of the hostilities and unfounded claims undertaken by the Land of Kings and Emperors and its leaders.

All this done solely because of the Land of Kings and Emperors’ rejection of the notion and idea that our United Kingdom is a sovereign region, an independent region, a region that does not bend to the will of those who think themselves to be high and mighty, a region that values democracy, the rule of law, and the power of the people above all else, even the interests of a foreign power which believes it is owed something.

Under our various Premierships, many of us have engaged with the LKE in some capacity. We have enjoyed good relations in the past, whether in cultural events, or joint military operations. However, of late there has been a distinct lack of engagement with the LKE that involves any sort of shared goals. For too long the LKE has sought, not to benefit from mutually beneficial cooperation with the United Kingdom, but rather take a self-serving approach; often seeking simply for the United Kingdom to respond, cater, or otherwise support actions by the LKE Crown in their own foreign and domestic conflicts. The LKE Crown has sought to drive a relationship based simply on support for their bidding, not an effective or meaningful relationship that respects the integrity of the United Kingdom.

In a culmination of the United Kingdom not acceding to requests, with the refusal to violate our citizenship laws, the recent treaty termination by the Land of Kings and Emperors is not at all surprising. But the public attempts to shame our region and spread unsubstantiated claims will not be allowed to stand without a response. We support the robust action by His Majesty’s Government in responding to these claims and taking action internally to remove associations of this relationship.

The public statements by the Land of Kings and Emperors seek to justify their action by putting the blame on the United Kingdom. First, there is a supposed breach of our treaty based on unsubstantiated claims by the LKE. We have not been provided any evidence to support their claim beyond their own questionable interpretation of a statement by an individual they banned which does not even mention NSUK. The LKE have presented as fact a situation they have invented in their own minds. Given our track record, only the most naïve would believe that any extrajudicial banishment within the UK could be the result of anything but outside influence. In this case, the LKE, who have its own public history of seeking these types of actions from other regions. Secondly, the LKE takes issue with the appointment of the incumbent Deputy Prime Minister. Despite seeking very limited and infrequent engagement with the United Kingdom in recent years, except to support their own ends, we note the irony that the appointment of a cabinet member can be of real concern to the LKE, particularly when our Government had no plans to articulate any change to our relationship. These reasons are simply excuses by the LKE, a region that is lashing out at not getting its way.

As former Prime Ministers, rarely do we all always agree on political matters. But today, we gladly step forward in the face of such needless hostility to put the unity of the United Kingdom on full display.

Sincerely,

The Most Noble Akillian Talleyrand KG KBE MVO CH, Duke of Rothesay & Edinburgh
The Most Noble George Stewart KG KBE CH, Duke of Kent & Marlborough
The Right Honourable John Alexander KG KBE, Viscount of Stirling
The Right Honourable Sir Owen Stewart KBE
The Right Honourable Madeline Mikaelson OM DSO
The Right Honourable David G. Allum MP
The Right Honourable Elizabeth Somerset KC
The Right Honourable Jay Dee Bonaparte KC

in support of The Right Honourable Alexis-Ka Sherwood CB MP and the United Kingdom

*The above statement represents former United Kingdom Prime Ministers. Additionally, former Prime Minister Constance St. James, as a Judge in active service, declines to join political statements, but she has authorized an announcement that she joins her former Prime Minister friends and colleagues in expressing support for United Kingdom, confidence in Prime Minister Sherwood, and pride in the region’s commitment to the rule of law.

Thank you.

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Yours,
ALEXIS-KA NITOCRIS MAREN SHERWOOD
Prime Minister of the United Kingdom

[Astrid Weisberg-Talleyrand]

On the contrary, there is every honour in not permitting one's soldiers to seize the territory of a friendly region without consequence.

In an effort to think of a a region that you meant, other than the real answer (UK), you just guessed randomly and lied by claiming that the LKE contacted Caer Sidi, and that is what you meant rather than UK; when that is impossible, because the LKE never contacted Caer Sidi. As such, you will forgive me therefore if I attach no credibility to your claim not to have talked to any member of UK - a definition which would include Rose Weisberg-Talleyrand.

Like I said we'll just have to agree to disagree. Have a good day Onder, good luck with your efforts in proving I can time travel.

[Ambrella]

I have a lot of unkind things I could say, but my mother raised me right and part of that is to call out people who are quite literally lying to paint themselves as the ever flawless victim.

Onder, bestie, why you lying?

Astrid was never contacted nor informed by myself nor members of my Government of your request to have her blocked from citizenship and banned because she took away a trophy you were foolish enough to let her hold onto. I've actually never spoken to her on discord, I'm sure she's lovely though, been super quiet in the UK even when she joined initially. I can only imagine why.

So, no, actually the UK never breached that provision of the Treaty, so you burned a bridge and tried to make us look bad, for what exactly? Clearly you need to get some hobbies and touch some grass. Stop dragging good people down for your irrational vendetta against people who clearly have better things to do with their lives than follow your version of how Regions should be run.

The current Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, AK Sherwood, informed me, when I brought up the matter of a potential violation of the LKE/UK treaty (as the UK government did not address this in its first two statements), that Astrid was indeed contacted by a member of your government to "get her side." So unless the current prime minister lied to me - it seems you are the one who is lying here, not Onder.

[Astrid Weisberg-Talleyrand]

I have a lot of unkind things I could say, but my mother raised me right and part of that is to call out people who are quite literally lying to paint themselves as the ever flawless victim.

The current Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, AK Sherwood, informed me, when I brought up the matter of a potential violation of the LKE/UK treaty (as the UK government did not address this in its first two statements), that Astrid was indeed contacted by a member of your government to "get her side." So unless the current prime minister lied to me - it seems you are the one who is lying here, not Onder.

As the person involved, once more I was never contacted by a member of the government. The only direct message I have with the current prime minister is her asking me to vote for her in the election. I made an educated guess that Onder and his goons were going around to other regions, trying to get them to remove me. After a discussion with the Khan of LWU. A guess that was correct, regardless of whether he went to every single region or not. As now confirmed by the man himself earlier.

[Onderkelkia]

I have a lot of unkind things I could say, but my mother raised me right and part of that is to call out people who are quite literally lying to paint themselves as the ever flawless victim.

The current Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, AK Sherwood, informed me, when I brought up the matter of a potential violation of the LKE/UK treaty (as the UK government did not address this in its first two statements), that Astrid was indeed contacted by a member of your government to "get her side." So unless the current prime minister lied to me - it seems you are the one who is lying here, not Onder.

As the person involved, once more I was never contacted by a member of the government. The only direct message I have with the current prime minister is her asking me to vote for her in the election. I made an educated guess that Onder and his goons were going around to other regions, trying to get them to remove me. After a discussion with the Khan of LWU. A guess that was correct, regardless of whether he went to every single region or not. As now confirmed by the man himself earlier.

As the person involved, you have already shown your willingness to blatantly lie regarding this matter by stating that you were referring to LWU and Caer Sidi, when the latter is impossible because the LKE never made any approach to Caer Sidi regarding this. If your latest and revised story - that you merely guessed that LKE contacted every region that you were in - were true, then you would have not named only Caer Sidi and LWU above; you would have named all of the regions you were in if that was your belief. Anyone who was not born yesterday can see you incorrectly substituted Caer Sidi in search of a different region from United Kingdom, in an effort to mislead this discussion, and in fact guessed wrongly in suggesting LKE had contacted Caer Sidi.

What you have just stated now meanwhile is incompatible with what Sopo has just confirmed was told to him by the Prime Minister of United Kingdom.

Additionally, what you have just stated now - that you were "never contacted by a member of the government" - is also notably narrower than the breadth of your previous denial above: that in the period prior to your citizenship application, you never exchanged any message with any member of UK.

[Valenera]

As the person involved, you have already shown your willingness to blatantly lie regarding this matter by stating that you were referring to LWU and Caer Sidi, when the latter is impossible because the LKE never made any approach to Caer Sidi regarding this. If your latest and revised story - that you merely guessed that LKE contacted every region that you were in - were true, then you would have not named only Caer Sidi and LWU above; you would have named all of the regions you were in if that was your belief. Anyone who was not born yesterday can see you incorrectly substituted Caer Sidi in search of a different region from United Kingdom, in an effort to mislead this discussion, and in fact guessed wrongly in suggesting LKE had contacted Caer Sidi.

What you have just stated now meanwhile is incompatible with what Sopo has just confirmed was told to him by the Prime Minister of United Kingdom.

Additionally, what you have just stated now - that you were "never contacted by a member of the government" - is also notably narrower than the breadth of your previous denial above: that in the period prior to your citizenship application, you never exchanged any message with any member of UK.

You've already said that you won't believe anything I say talking wall of text. The fact remains you have no evidence, either to me being leaked info or being an agent of Malice.

Edit: fixed the quote

[The Rumbling]

As the person involved, once more I was never contacted by a member of the government. The only direct message I have with the current prime minister is her asking me to vote for her in the election. I made an educated guess that Onder and his goons were going around to other regions, trying to get them to remove me. After a discussion with the Khan of LWU. A guess that was correct, regardless of whether he went to every single region or not. As now confirmed by the man himself earlier.

As the person involved, you have already shown your willingness to blatantly lie regarding this matter by stating that you were referring to LWU and Caer Sidi, when the latter is impossible because the LKE never made any approach to Caer Sidi regarding this. If your latest and revised story - that you merely guessed that LKE contacted every region that you were in - were true, then you would have not named only Caer Sidi and LWU above; you would have named all of the regions you were in if that was your belief. Anyone who was not born yesterday can see you incorrectly substituted Caer Sidi in search of a different region from United Kingdom, in an effort to mislead this discussion, and in fact guessed wrongly in suggesting LKE had contacted Caer Sidi.

What you have just stated now meanwhile is incompatible with what Sopo has just confirmed was told to him by the Prime Minister of United Kingdom.

Additionally, what you have just stated now - that you were "never contacted by a member of the government" - is also notably narrower than the breadth of your previous denial above: that in the period prior to your citizenship application, you never exchanged any message with any member of UK.

You blatantly lie any and every time you pretend to be a man with any honor or class. You admitted in another post that you discriminate against anyone connected to the region of the Kingdom of Great Britain. I was banned multiple times by Don for reasons including disagreeing with him. Or the time Fanix gave him a "him or me" ultimatum, I hate Don and in my bitterness[which at least I can admit too], I take it as a compliment that I could hurt his feelings quite easily. So with that said. I don't have the highest opinion of KGB's past either, that said he has been gone for a fair amount of time now, get over your beef. That goes for everyone who still uses Don as a reason to hate KGB.

Furthermore, for you to hate any group of people for connections that they might have had, but most wouldn't have had at this point is ridiculous, considering that you admit it or most likely deny it, given that's your thing. Well, Onder, your track record is not spotless, you have aligned and worked for shady people in the past. Yet, I don't see you or anyone else jumping to be discriminated against for that fact. So your discrimination against KGB is just out of your hate and malice. So pretend it's a matter of security either. Discrimination is discrimination, hate is hate, and you use both for your arguments. You can fluff up speeches all you want, you can use "fancy" talk all you want. Fact is without definitive evidence you are all talk and no substance. Further, if you took away the connections and positions of power you gained, no one would side with your dying relic of a region. Stop living in the past. Only a senile despot would brag about making his region more tyrannical, and admit discrimination like it's no big deal.

Congratulations, you're a bitter old hate-filled miserable hermit who can write big walls of text, and who likes to throw his figurative weight around. You and your followers are just living proof that power corrupts. Go find a nice NS retirement home, and stop trying to make more people as hateful as you.

[Ambrella]

I have a lot of unkind things I could say, but my mother raised me right and part of that is to call out people who are quite literally lying to paint themselves as the ever flawless victim.

Onder, bestie, why you lying?

Astrid was never contacted nor informed by myself nor members of my Government of your request to have her blocked from citizenship and banned because she took away a trophy you were foolish enough to let her hold onto. I've actually never spoken to her on discord, I'm sure she's lovely though, been super quiet in the UK even when she joined initially. I can only imagine why.

So, no, actually the UK never breached that provision of the Treaty, so you burned a bridge and tried to make us look bad, for what exactly? Clearly you need to get some hobbies and touch some grass. Stop dragging good people down for your irrational vendetta against people who clearly have better things to do with their lives than follow your version of how Regions should be run.

The current Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, AK Sherwood, informed me, when I brought up the matter of a potential violation of the LKE/UK treaty (as the UK government did not address this in its first two statements), that Astrid was indeed contacted by a member of your government to "get her side." So unless the current prime minister lied to me - it seems you are the one who is lying here, not Onder.

Well, it seems the truth is out now that the UK's former prime minister has released a literal dump truck of logs to the House of Commons, which was viewable to diplomats. Maddie told Rose, not Astrid, of the LKE's request, and Rose inevitably told Astrid. Either way though, Maddie herself admitted in the logs that the UK violated the treaty. Case closed.