OOC/Signups for Human/Kovunanto War [OPEN to All]

[Polish Prussian Commonwealth]

Actually, to be clear, what sort of tech is the Covenant tooling with? What's their combat range?

Ahem.

[Allanea]

Don't want to speak on behalf of the OP but they're based on the Covenant from Halo.

[Polish Prussian Commonwealth]

Don't want to speak on behalf of the OP but they're based on the Covenant from Halo.

Thank you so much.

Hm. Might change who's involved then...

[Novaya Equestria]

I apologize for posting this, but I forgot that Novayan, Saiyanese and Nova Roman warships also use range to engage their targets.

[Polish Prussian Commonwealth]

I apologize for posting this, but I forgot that Novayan, Saiyanese and Nova Roman warships also use range to engage their targets.

What sort of range?

[Kovunanto]

I apologize for posting this, but I forgot that Novayan, Saiyanese and Nova Roman warships also use range to engage their targets.

What sort of range?

OOC: Around 37 times a normal-sized terrestrial planet's diameter considering 1:1 in mass so, approximately almost 300 km max range for the longest shots from the biggest warships (albeit rarest and are very narrow in fire angle), smaller ships like corvettes and destroyers can hit way less. Way even less for attack craft and vehicles that engages on the ground and air on surfaces. There's just too much math butchering to go around of every single individual equipment the Kovunanto actually uses in any given battle situation. Plasma trajectory from the biggest shots is indeed light speed, but the smaller, common shots from blue, green, and red from Banshees and Seraphs as the only two examples being cannon fodder for space combat might not travel very fast and can be somewhat easily dodged with the right timing and maneuvers, yet it can still travel somewhat fast and always in a straight line. Needlers and ground-based plasma weapons always fire fast but its speed is the slowest and predictable, about a few foot paces a second, or several meters per second with very short lifespans before fizzling.

Glassing beams from the big ships have a range of about 100 meters to be exact, and are always devastating at point of impact, with respective effects of the very point of impact of any nuclear explosion, but like small-sized nukes going off every second in one designated spot as long as the glassing beam is being fired, and it fires for three to five seconds, but their shields have to be dropped before doing so, and only when conditions allow it by a doctrine of restraint. Holy relics and or structures found on the surface prior to a battle start means no glassing until they know there's no more that can be found after actually retrieving it, unless the relics and structures are hostile by design or realizing that the relics serve little to no value to the mission, or the enemy has already found the relics before they get to it, then they'll consider their options, as trying to glass a world preemptively or foolishly results in a high crime with the death penalty afterward, usually a trial for the whole unit involved.

Again, there's just too much math butchering to actual projectile trajectories with every single individual weapon the Kovunanto uses, but will always try. The explanation of every single individual weapon to be laid out at face value would be just too long.

[Novaya Equestria]

=snip=

You're correct.

I apologize for posting this, but I forgot that Novayan, Saiyanese and Nova Roman warships also use range to engage their targets.

What sort of range?

Weapons range.

[Polish Prussian Commonwealth]

=snip=

You're correct.

What sort of range?

Weapons range.

:/

Don't sass me. Give me kilometers. Hundreds? Thousands? Tens of thousands? More?

[Kovunanto]

OOC: I could just explain it again, slower, more clearly, and even then, still not get it in the end? Ok, let's try explaining again, in the simplest terms. From longest to shortest.

Biggest ships like supercarriers: Light speed attack up to around 300 km, or 37-ish times the full diameter of one rocky world like Terra, or Earth, whatever you name it, with a 1 to 1 mass.
Medium-sized ships: Corvettes, destroyers and the like, their plasma batteries are less in range, but still pose a serious threat.
Small-sized ships: Even less range, but again still pose a threat.
Particle sniper weapons: Over 1,800 meters at max with very good weather conditions from beam rifles the Kig-Yar uses.
Vehicle attack craft like Seraphs, Banshees, Ghosts, etc.: Ten football fields for Seraphs, five football fields from Wraiths' longest arc shots max but requires to aim its turret at the highest angle possible, about three football fields for Banshees, one football field for Ghosts and all other vehicles if can hit a faraway target.
Scarab Beam Attack: 120 meters, limited firing arc vary narrow
Glassing beams: 100 meters exact, with respective nuclear explosion impacts and after effects, but it goes off every second for up to 3-5 seconds.
Plasma pistols: 30 meters at most times, but tripled to 90 meters if they want to line up an overcharged shot.
Mgalekgolo Arm/Shoulder Cannons: ~50 meters for one-shot blast mode, 10 meters for beam mode
Plasma rifles: Fires fast, somewhat hard to dodge but avoidable, up to 50 meters.
Turrets (stationary): Fast, easy to dodge around almost half of a football field range, they can see their enemy farther than that, but can't hit you until around 45 meters.
Carbine Rifles: 40 meters, instant hitscan speed
Gravity Hammers: Melee
Energy Swords: Melee

[Allanea]

OOC:

It's confusing because the weapon ranges you are listing are much much shorter than the range at which weapons are typically employed IRL. As described your troops are at a disadvantage versus a man with a Maxim machinegun. Also, the diameter of Earth is 12,756 km - 300 kilometers is probably 'punching range' for a sci-fi spacecraft.

Now, some explanations about the post I've made:

I don't have specifications for a lot of my FT weapons right now but the glide bombs are effectively FT weapons of JSOW, obviously with more range but more importantly carrying FT submunitions such as plasma bomblets or HE-F bomblets that would be the futuristic equivalent of a BLU-97/B with a shrapnel effect against infantry and a moderate anti-armor effect against vehicles lighter than a tank. Artillery and MRLS are obviously also FT!artillery and FT!MRLS, mounted on gravitic hover-platforms so they can move out of their position rapidly after firing.

Naturally, geometry applies - the Bogatyr is in low orbit so it can, with its sensors, see anyone and anything approaching the landing areas for hundreds of miles, and of course whatever aircraft survive can spot fire for the artillery.

[Kovunanto]

OOC:

It's confusing because the weapon ranges you are listing are much much shorter than the range at which weapons are typically employed IRL. As described your troops are at a disadvantage versus a man with a Maxim machinegun. Also, the diameter of Earth is 12,756 km - 300 kilometers is probably 'punching range' for a sci-fi spacecraft.

Now, some explanations about the post I've made:

I don't have specifications for a lot of my FT weapons right now but the glide bombs are effectively FT weapons of JSOW, obviously with more range but more importantly carrying FT submunitions such as plasma bomblets or HE-F bomblets that would be the futuristic equivalent of a BLU-97/B with a shrapnel effect against infantry and a moderate anti-armor effect against vehicles lighter than a tank. Artillery and MRLS are obviously also FT!artillery and FT!MRLS, mounted on gravitic hover-platforms so they can move out of their position rapidly after firing.

Naturally, geometry applies - the Bogatyr is in low orbit so it can, with its sensors, see anyone and anything approaching the landing areas for hundreds of miles, and of course whatever aircraft survive can spot fire for the artillery.

OOC: I got around to the error just on the first bit of range data from previous post, with no need for excess calculations. It's not 300 km, it's 300,000 km for supercarriers, with a light speed attack from even one is equal to exactly one full second. So if a ship on the receiving end is moving just enough for a glancing shot to be observed, then they're perfectly safe, if not, then definitely they're either heavily damaged or already screwed up, completely and utterly. The cooldown on the supercarrier will then wait about 30 minutes or so of overheating before it can be fired again, and only against the biggest threats.

Corvettes and destroyers, and other medium-sized vessels, I have to fall back on the old-school way of math, from Fleet Battles, these ships under medium weight all equally share a 10/24 with a 3-4 on the die roll on plasma cannons and torpedoes, so that would mean their range is quite long-range, but nowhere near as long as the supercarriers.

The rest of the data are almost exactly true due to observable limitations, so indeed my ground forces mainly suffer the main disadvantage in range.

All right, I feel like I'll need some much-needed energy for a continuation of the night battle post later, now focusing on one of the four domains after watching more of the historical footage of Hyrule closely.

[Kovunanto]

OOC: I hate to break it to you, but because of the reinforcing measures of the CPXIA of 2525, which you can read it here means that I will not help the humanity side beyond this point, as if trying to make me look weaker than I would expect from the very beginning. Help yourselves from now on, do not seek help from the Kovunanto. Doing this will only anger the aliens even more.

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Humans are indeed curious, as far as I am aware, but the Kovunanto decides for now on can absolutely under no circumstances can be this helpful to the humanity side after being probed too much. It's too stressful already, and now that humanity must seek knowledge from their own experience, by helping themselves. Help yourself, help others on your side, let others on your side help you, but don't seek help from the aliens. Sighs.

@Novaya I can't help you beyond this point. You have to get advice from your side only. Getting the alien side to help you will make them look weaker and dishonorable.

[Allanea]

I have some questions:

1. In light of the fact your post does not contain any mentions of follow-up attacks on the battleship Resistance, are you alright with me claiming it is still functional?
2. It seems there's not been any mentions of attacks on the Allanean freighter that is evacuating people from the sky cities. Should I presume that there are not any attacks on it so far?
3. What are the casualties, if any, of the forces attacking LZ Beta? From the posts so far they appear to be large.
4. Would Allanean ships be able to detect any kind of powerful sources of magical energy? (i.e. can I use magic-detectors mounted on ships or surveillance equipment to find any Hyrule artefacts, or to detect Ganon himself?)
5. To what extent are Hylians cooperating with the evacuation? How many of them are now on board the freighters, and are there any indications that they plan to evacuate more?

[Novaya Equestria]

I'm making a new post now, everyone. Also, it's a huge pain having to calculate the number of warships I have to do. It's PAIN.

MAXIMUM PAIN I AM UNABLE TO ENDURE.

[Kovunanto]

I have some questions:

1. In light of the fact your post does not contain any mentions of follow-up attacks on the battleship Resistance, are you alright with me claiming it is still functional?
2. It seems there's not been any mentions of attacks on the Allanean freighter that is evacuating people from the sky cities. Should I presume that there are not any attacks on it so far?
3. What are the casualties, if any, of the forces attacking LZ Beta? From the posts so far they appear to be large.
4. Would Allanean ships be able to detect any kind of powerful sources of magical energy? (i.e. can I use magic-detectors mounted on ships or surveillance equipment to find any Hyrule artefacts, or to detect Ganon himself?)
5. To what extent are Hylians cooperating with the evacuation? How many of them are now on board the freighters, and are there any indications that they plan to evacuate more?

OOC: All right, I was expecting to come by, so I'll gladly answer all for you.

1. No, never, the aliens didn't expect to see the Resistance still being around, and the aliens braced gunfire during the deployment to the ground. Tried as best I could to picture the third wave's deployment.
2. Nope so far, the aliens are too preoccupied with higher-priority objectives elsewhere away from the previous engagement on the ground and to further complicate matters on my troops, a small detachment from the Ardent Condemnation is now lost on the beach looking for its pilot so they can regroup with the new forces.
3. Of course, definitely from my side even more. Sent in the third wave and expectantly facing even heavier resistance.
4. Totally. Ganon however from the aliens' perspective is still under heavy debate on the warships trying to figure out the hidden monster ally as well.
5. The aliens suspect the king although able to help with the efforts to some degree, from the historical footage as the battle lingers on, he will start to get paranoid of its own technology, yours, and mine alike, and wants to respect its neutrality status.

And, sorry, that was my bit of outburst on my part. Kovunanto will continue to play along.

[Novaya Equestria]

I drafted a post just now. Once you made your post, the drafted post I have made will have a very, very, very, even more nastier surprise from the Novayans.

And no, I'm not godmodding; my FT nations were FanFT (or maybe FanFFT).

Oh, and also, expect Lord Admiral Borealis I to make an excessive galactic military presence a priority. Yep! That means deploying more forces to Sol System-ANIME, Sanctuary, and the Trappist and Betelgeuse Systems' naval fleet headquarters.

You guys okay with me making a post that is quite (and also slightly) lighthearted? Well, that'll be my intermission before the big surprise Lord Admiral Borealis I's gonna unleash.

And yes, my intermission involves characters discussing with each other on whatever is going on, especially with the increase of Novayan, Saiyanese and Nova Roman military units. Also, the MSCGM will be permanently deadlocked over the semantic madness the Lord Admiral caused them by requisitioning additional military units and building up more infrastructure to, unbeknownst to them all, support his war effort in stopping the Kovunanto.

And yes, I'm RPing as a number of characters from some animes I watched and know of.

[Allanea]

OOC:

I don't fully underwstand some of the things you wrote - is English a second language for you?

1. Do you mean 'no the aliens didn't shoot again because they expecvt it to be dead' or 'OOC I think it should be dead'?
3. Can you tell me approximately what casualties are for the Covunanto?

[Romanic Imperium]

Ima join humans. Theirs no limit on tech right?

[Qhevak]

Gonna deploy a strike force from Hounds of Tindalos ISEC to Hyrule, initially a relatively smaller one since I don't want to bring too much firepower to bear here.

[Allanea]

I cannot help but point out you should be posting in our RP that you applied for ages ago!

[Novaya Equestria]

OOC:

I don't fully underwstand some of the things you wrote - is English a second language for you?

1. Do you mean 'no the aliens didn't shoot again because they expecvt it to be dead' or 'OOC I think it should be dead'?
3. Can you tell me approximately what casualties are for the Covunanto?

I. Are you asking me? In fact, I think a more lighthearted post - one that would decrease the tensions we RPers have in this RP - isn't needed.
II. Stand by. Or are you asking Kovunanto or me?

[Novaya Equestria]

I am quite shocked when the UNSC somehow know of the Novayans. However, because the UNSC mysteriously and somehow knows of the Novayans, it will be interesting to see Novayan-UNSC interactions, especially on the Lord Admiral demanding to know HOW the UNSC managed to know of his peoples' and nation's existence.

[Kovunanto]

OOC:

I don't fully underwstand some of the things you wrote - is English a second language for you?

1. Do you mean 'no the aliens didn't shoot again because they expecvt it to be dead' or 'OOC I think it should be dead'?
3. Can you tell me approximately what casualties are for the Covunanto?

Learned a bit of Latin myself at basic level when I'm not on NS, but I'm not going to butcher in with Latin words on every line she says so that it doesn't confuse English speakers, just so that it's easy enough for me to translate whatever relics the Kovunanto finds for just one Latin-speaking character, and the only one in the whole military for her to understand, a relic translator, assuming she's alive. I have a translator in my military like her for the aliens when it comes to researching foreign things in foreign lands. Thought that would make it a multilingual alien nation that needs a basic level of understanding of multiple languages to translate the relics for the aliens to analyze. The aliens seem to understand her well enough she was let in to the military and the higher castes, for the purpose of translating whatever relics they find for her to pronounce it, analyze it, and study it. Eventually though, after this whole battle, she will explain to the High Prophets her true reasoning for being brought in to the Kovunanto, maybe they could be suspicious, or just tricked into believing they would let her in.

Now back to the more relevant questions that are still not fully unanswered:

1. The aliens still didn't know there's a third ship directly below them, that will be addressed soon.
3. Close to five-hundred thousand of my troops, actual casualties are still mounting, but it is close to five-hundred thousand.

@Romanic Imperium I already have a battle ongoing, you can kindly wait until it's over. And correct there is no tech limit, and is multi-tech friendly.

@Novaya To me, Novaya. Anything you could draft it out in advance at your own pace that would not draw out any more questions towards Kovunanto for every... single... little... detail of everything Kovunanto is doing or will be doing. Because everything I do now up to this point, every single keystroke just causes more questions than answers. At the moment for me, ship capacity for Kovunanto cannot exceed in the earliest days of the war past 800 and no more than three armadas on active duty at a time, but I will bump it up a little bit after a few more battles.

@Allanea Just don't worry or feel concern too much. Maybe there hasn't been a Halo RP in NS for a long time and don't know if there was one, and the demand of having just one to bring back popularity wasn't really high. So how I brought this up in ages, it goes like this. Maybe this will fulfill your curiosity even more, and even more so.

Spoiler alert ahead:

I woke up one day and gonna say, I want to be the very thing that I was supposed to destroy, but flipped allegiance from being the greatest protector against harm in the galaxy to the very harbinger of destruction, with a slight renaming and bringing up the Kovunanto. I'm gonna show humanity that the nation is being transgressed into wiping out the top of the food chain after talking to a dormant ancient AI who was only concerned about atonement named Mediator Bias, that my nation long believed to take up on the age-old ignorance resisting its admittance to let humanity, or anyone else be the dominant species for some mystical journey, that they're going to take advantage of their long-awaited goals like finding some ancient rings, relics, holy structures and worlds left behind by their greatest makers, the Forerunners. And I said to the AI no way, by the very tenets of the Writ of Union, we're not gonna let humans or anyone else touch that, that's too holy and they don't know they're defiling it for ages, but they already inhabited many worlds, messing with the relics and their uses, so then I made a declaration out of the blue and wanted to add something else that would make it even more popular by ensuring that the war is a parody of the actual conflict, and thrown in crossover bits to go along with it.

End of spoilers, and then, bamn, a war began, and it quickly grew popular by the day, because there wasn't one like it that Halo fans would've seen it coming. And then after the first few days or so upon just finishing up the relic hunt on Remnant, humanity started to realize they are being attacked, rising up, and going after my ships and aliens just to slow their advance. Once I realized that I didn't bring up an official sign-up thread, I quickly responded with delight. And then here we are.

And just as I said before, @Allanea, there is absolutely no need to worry or concern too much about what Kovunanto is going to do, or will be doing, for every single keystroke pressed, that's going to cause more questions than answers. What I am still doing now is that I might not be doing much, a bit on and off of NS not because I'm going on a little break to figure out the logistics of future moves, but realizing that the weather is going to be a bit unbearable. But I'll leave behind a drafted post, so to stay the course and then come back to active mode after a few days to get things going again. Nature's fault, not me.

Gonna go enjoy a few warm days off NS to figure my next move. Be right back. This is such a long OOC post I put boxes to split it up to make it easier for you to read.

[Novaya Equestria]

Okay. Oh, and also, I'll be making another edit to my post, where the Novayan armada arrived and engaged Kovunanto forces. As for the nasty surprise in the drafted post I made yesterday, it will be when the Kovunanto fleet requested another fleet to reinforce it.

[Kovunanto]

OOC: Technically still on my two-day break, second of two. But, I made another IC post just now, no draft this time. Third wave (about another 15 million aliens thrown in due to losses mounting on both armadas' ~300 ships remaining on the Unyielding Hand and ~120 ships on Ardent Condemnation combined fleet, with 420 ships remaining) is to march on Death Mountain, including the small detachment, the Kovunanto as well as Ganon's ground forces are to ascend due to the hot air preventing Banshees and Phantoms from flying there and have to be deployed on the edges, not continuing another assault attempt on the Allanean ground forces, it's too much already. Scarabs will be in it for the climb because ground vehicles of mine just don't have what it takes to ascend steep hills as well. Third ground wave, of almost all the crew that are willing to be on the ground earlier rather than dying in space, except for Unggoy and Kig-Yar due to them not having what it takes, but that doesn't mean they don't quit, so they will stay inside the Scarabs for shelter and let the Sangheili pilot them. But, in space, seeing the distraction of the hailing calls, the supercarriers and carriers are prepped to fire even if they're damaged and taking more hostile fire. Corvettes and destroyers continue to pound the Resistance to get it out of the way so they can get back to helping the two armadas. Another armada is not possible until less than 300 ships on my side are in orbit, and after about five more waves from this, the Kovunanto will be battle-exhausted, and will raise war exhaustion from 2% at current to a measly 5%.

Out of the 1.5 million ground forces, it will only be 50% Jiralhanae to fight the Gorons using their own strength, their mass, their own weaponry and Gravity Hammers, as well as their resilience, 20% will be Sangheili with their natural heat resistance, 10% Unggoy and Kig-Yar to watch over the edges of the mountain and taking shelter in Scarabs in small numbers since they can't do the climb, let alone allow the Kig-Yar to take up a few positions on whatever they feel comfortable to snipe from. 9% are Yanme'e to distract, and the remainder will be the Mgalekgolo and seven Scarabs if all else fails. The latter caste thanks to their auto-coolant backs, but still serving as a weak point lets them survive the heat for long periods if needed, their cannons both in beam and semi-auto modes do more damage, with slightly longer cooldown rates to make up for the additional punch. In addition, their metallic arm for slamming and ramming foes will retain its heat for longer, and can be very blistering. Other than that, the Yanme'e are very aggressive in the heat and will go frenzy, the same could be said for the Jiralhanae, too, they will go frenzy in the heat and just go straight for melee, rarely if ever using their other weapons.

The Gorons will have to contend with seven Scarabs as well in case the Great Beast gets re-activated, and the only vehicle so far be sent for the third wave, since again Phantoms and Banshees just can't put forces on the active volcano, much like modern aircraft can't pass over it. The Scarabs are only as a last resort if all other ground forces fail to complete the fallback objective. And no one in the Kovunanto wants to spend a minute in the extreme conditions looking for relics in the mountain either, so it's ignored. It's unknown exactly how many Gorons are there, but the Kovunanto will have to find out almost immediately.

And done, now I can continue on my second day of taking a break.