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Slug2012
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I Can't rename my Nation!

Postby Slug2012 » Tue Apr 12, 2022 7:42 am

This had to happen today, i went into setting just to rename my nation.
I tried to Rename My nation from "Slug2012" to "Glacialia".
And what did i get?
This error: "Sorry, only capitalization changes are permitted when renaming. Your new name must match your current one."
How do i fix this?
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Postby Perikuresu » Tue Apr 12, 2022 7:44 am

You can't, make a new account if u want a new name
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Postby Platoon of Peace » Tue Apr 12, 2022 7:44 am

You can't. If you want to rename your nation, you'll need to make a new nation.
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Postby AwSaF » Tue Apr 12, 2022 7:44 am

This is unfixable. You can't change your name
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Postby Arpasia » Tue Apr 12, 2022 7:47 am

Sadly, renaming your nation is almost impossible, as you may only alter the capitalization of your nation's name. However, a solution to this would be creating a new account and start from zero again and leaving the old account to CTE (cease to exist), accounts usually cease to exist after 28 days of inactivity.
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Postby Wallowis » Tue Apr 12, 2022 7:50 am

Arpasia wrote:Sadly, renaming your nation is almost impossible, as you may only alter the capitalization of your nation's name. However, a solution to this would be creating a new account and start from zero again and leaving the old account to CTE (cease to exist), accounts usually cease to exist after 28 days of inactivity.

He has 1.5 billion population. No way he's gonna sacrifice all his progress over the name.
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Postby Romanum et Britannia Minor » Tue Apr 12, 2022 7:51 am

Wallowis wrote:
Arpasia wrote:Sadly, renaming your nation is almost impossible, as you may only alter the capitalization of your nation's name. However, a solution to this would be creating a new account and start from zero again and leaving the old account to CTE (cease to exist), accounts usually cease to exist after 28 days of inactivity.

He has 1.5 billion population. No way he's gonna sacrifice all his progress over the name.

Maybe a suggestion could be to make it possible to transfer your stats to a new nation?

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Postby Perikuresu » Tue Apr 12, 2022 7:53 am

Romanum et Britannia Minor wrote:
Wallowis wrote:He has 1.5 billion population. No way he's gonna sacrifice all his progress over the name.

Maybe a suggestion could be to make it possible to transfer your stats to a new nation?

as far as ik, that's impossible, the closest thing the user can do is to refer to their nation in their factbooks by it's preferred name
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Postby Fachumonn » Tue Apr 12, 2022 7:53 am

Romanum et Britannia Minor wrote:
Wallowis wrote:He has 1.5 billion population. No way he's gonna sacrifice all his progress over the name.

Maybe a suggestion could be to make it possible to transfer your stats to a new nation?

Impossible in the game rn.


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Postby Bears Armed » Tue Apr 12, 2022 2:59 pm

Perikuresu wrote:
Romanum et Britannia Minor wrote:Maybe a suggestion could be to make it possible to transfer your stats to a new nation?

as far as ik, that's impossible, the closest thing the user can do is to refer to their nation in their factbooks by it's preferred name

And in your sig, as well.
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Postby Tinhampton » Tue Apr 12, 2022 5:37 pm

To add that Glacialia CTEd with over 500 million population and cannot be claimed even as the name of a newly-founded nation.
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Postby Slug2012 » Wed Apr 13, 2022 2:59 am

So Am i just stuck with the Nation's name "The People's Republic Of Slug2012"?

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Postby Romanum et Britannia Minor » Wed Apr 13, 2022 3:01 am

Slug2012 wrote:So Am i just stuck with the Nation's name "The People's Republic Of Slug2012"?

Er... yes, you'll have to deal with it.

For example, my nation is the Roman Empire, but obviously it was taken so Romanum et Britannia Minor it is.

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Postby Slug2012 » Wed Apr 13, 2022 3:08 am

I don't think "Creating a new nation" is my only option to do it, if i did, I'd be Starting with a 0 Population.
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Postby Fachumonn » Wed Apr 13, 2022 4:45 am

Slug2012 wrote:I don't think "Creating a new nation" is my only option to do it, if i did, I'd be Starting with a 0 Population.

It is your only option. Sorry. Should've picked a better name when you started.


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Postby Frisbeeteria » Wed Apr 13, 2022 4:55 am

Slug2012 wrote:I don't think "Creating a new nation" is my only option to do it, if i did, I'd be Starting with a 0 Population.

You want an official answer? Yes, starting over is the only option. You start with a 5 million population.

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Postby Slug2012 » Wed Apr 13, 2022 5:19 am

But I'll lose all of my Progress if i did that.

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Postby Platoon of Peace » Wed Apr 13, 2022 6:24 am

Slug2012 wrote:But I'll lose all of my Progress if i did that.

What I did is I have a nation with my official name made, but all the thing I do stat-wise (and everything-wise, tbh) happen over here on this account.
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Postby United Calanworie » Wed Apr 13, 2022 12:47 pm

Slug2012 wrote:But I'll lose all of my Progress if i did that.

Yep. You'll lose your stats.
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Postby Fachumonn » Wed Apr 13, 2022 1:50 pm

United Calanworie wrote:
Slug2012 wrote:But I'll lose all of my Progress if i did that.

Yep. You'll lose your stats.

Not like they have any.


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Postby Robada » Mon Apr 18, 2022 6:31 pm

As someone that just found this game, this seems absurd.

I didn't think too much about it when signing up (yesterday). "The perfect is the enemy of the good", and I just wanted to get started to see what the game is like.

I'm glad I found this out now. I guess I'll start over.
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Postby Niarj » Mon Apr 18, 2022 6:39 pm

Robada wrote:As someone that just found this game, this is absurd.

I didn't think too much about it when signing up (yesterday). "The perfect is the enemy of the good", and I just wanted to get started to see what the game is like.

I'm glad I found this out now. I guess I'll start over.


Why is it absurd that you can't rename your nation? This has been mentioned in many threads previously, but it messes with all of the information attached to the nation and can fuck up your nation (I don't remember all the details, but a lot of information pertaining to your nation involve identification through your nation's name, and they wouldn't automatically change). There's only been 2 cases of name changes, and it doesn't seem absurd that such a policy exists. Even outside of technical reasons, without proper measures taken then name changing could be abused by malicious nations looking to wipe away their reputation within the forums. Fortunately, you are a new user anyway so it doesn't matter much if you have to restart (not much progress in developing your nation).
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Postby Robada » Mon Apr 18, 2022 6:46 pm

Niarj wrote:
Robada wrote:As someone that just found this game, this is absurd.

I didn't think too much about it when signing up (yesterday). "The perfect is the enemy of the good", and I just wanted to get started to see what the game is like.

I'm glad I found this out now. I guess I'll start over.


Why is it absurd that you can't rename your nation? This has been mentioned in many threads previously, but it messes with all of the information attached to the nation and can fuck up your nation (I don't remember all the details, but a lot of information pertaining to your nation involve identification through your nation's name, and they wouldn't automatically change). There's only been 2 cases of name changes, and it doesn't seem absurd that such a policy exists. Even outside of technical reasons, without proper measures taken then name changing could be abused by malicious nations looking to wipe away their reputation within the forums. Fortunately, you are a new user anyway so it doesn't matter much if you have to restart (not much progress in developing your nation).


Keep in mind this is the perspective of someone brand new to this area. I searched the issue when running into the capitalization message and found this. I haven't spent hours researching this game; my entire exposure is about 60 minutes.

Mechanically, you could have something like a unique nation ID behind the scenes that users never see, which could allow the name to fluctuate. From what I'm seeing here, I guess that's not how the game was built.

As far as in-game applications, I don't know. I don't know what nation interaction is like if any. I kind of figured I'd answer a couple questions each day and see what develops.

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Postby Niarj » Mon Apr 18, 2022 6:51 pm

Robada wrote:
Niarj wrote:
Why is it absurd that you can't rename your nation? This has been mentioned in many threads previously, but it messes with all of the information attached to the nation and can fuck up your nation (I don't remember all the details, but a lot of information pertaining to your nation involve identification through your nation's name, and they wouldn't automatically change). There's only been 2 cases of name changes, and it doesn't seem absurd that such a policy exists. Even outside of technical reasons, without proper measures taken then name changing could be abused by malicious nations looking to wipe away their reputation within the forums. Fortunately, you are a new user anyway so it doesn't matter much if you have to restart (not much progress in developing your nation).


Keep in mind this is the perspective of someone brand new to this area. I searched the issue when running into the capitalization message and found this. I haven't spent hours researching this game; my entire exposure is about 60 minutes.

Mechanically, you could have something like a unique nation ID behind the scenes that users never see, which could allow the name to fluctuate. From what I'm seeing here, I guess that's not how the game was built.

As far as in-game applications, I don't know. I don't know what nation interaction is like if any. I kind of figured I'd answer a couple questions each day and see what develops.


I understand your perspective, just don't think that the conclusion of it being absurd makes much sense.
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Postby Mindhar » Mon Apr 18, 2022 7:35 pm

Robada wrote:Mechanically, you could have something like a unique nation ID behind the scenes that users never see, which could allow the name to fluctuate. From what I'm seeing here, I guess that's not how the game was built.

That would have been sensible, yes, but this game was thrown together in approximately three hours by Max Barry in 2002 (possibly with the help of some kind of book entitled "Programming For Dummies") and, upon inexplicably becoming a popular and long-lasting browser game, has since been maintained by a team of valiant but hopelessly beleaguered coders who, due to a lack of resources in the early years, had to program most of the bug fixes and new features via abacus.

Bear in mind that you can have as many nations as you want (so long as only one of them is in the World Assembly) so it is possible to just create a new account every time you want a new nation name.


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