by Dentali » Mon Mar 28, 2022 6:11 am
by Dentali » Mon Mar 28, 2022 6:12 am
by Jovuistan » Mon Mar 28, 2022 7:13 am
Dentali wrote:FIRST DEMOCRATIC DEBATE
LOCATION: Denver, Colorado
Good Evening and Welcome to the first Democratic Debate, my name is Melissa Rodriguez from CNN and I will be moderating this debate hosted by CNN and the University of Colorado. Tonight our participants are all seeking the Democratic nomination for President of the United States. And I will introduce them now.
(Candidates enter Left to Right crossing the stage and going to their assigned podium, the person with the highest national polling will be in the center)
Senator Everest Laakso of North Dakota, Former Mayor of Baltimore,Maryland Jean-Jacques St. Cierge, Businessman Nesbitt Baylor, Senator Carole Martel of California, Governor Upton Fleming of Pennsylvania, Congressman Robert Woolworth of North Carolina, and Senator Robert Wallace of Vermont
Rodriguez: Each candidate will now be given 90 seconds to introduce themselves and make an opening statement before the start of the debate.
OOC: Welcome to the first debate of the Twilight RP. It will function as follows. Their will be 1 debate question every day ie: Do you support Roe v. Wade . For the next 12 hours OOC each participant in the Debate will have 90 seconds to answer that question.
People speak an average of 140 words per minute, a fast speaker about 170 words and a slow speaker about 110. Most politicians speak at 120 words per minute because it's easier to understand and comprehend a slow speaker so don’t try and jam words in. The MAXIMUM number of words acceptable for a 90 second debate response is 260 words. The microphone WILL BE CUT OFF after 260 words and no one will hear the candidate.
After the 12 hour mark a period of ‘free discussion’ will follow, also 12 hours long. The candidates may engage and challenge one another, provided it is limited to the topic of the question. Once that 12 hour mark is up another question will be asked by the moderator. ANY POSTS REGARDING THE PREVIOUS QUESTION AFTER THIS POINT WILL NOT BE COUNTED .
Now we understand the irl comes first you might not be able to participate every day, thats fine you will get other chances to debate. If you can’t participate on a question in the IC, in the RP your character will have answered the question, it just wasn’t interesting or memorable.
by Alozia » Mon Mar 28, 2022 9:48 am
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by Cybernetic Socialist Republics » Mon Mar 28, 2022 10:31 am
Dentali wrote:FIRST DEMOCRATIC DEBATE
LOCATION: Denver, Colorado
Good Evening and Welcome to the first Democratic Debate, my name is Melissa Rodriguez from CNN and I will be moderating this debate hosted by CNN and the University of Colorado. Tonight our participants are all seeking the Democratic nomination for President of the United States. And I will introduce them now.
(Candidates enter Left to Right crossing the stage and going to their assigned podium, the person with the highest national polling will be in the center)
Senator Everest Laakso of North Dakota, Former Mayor of Baltimore,Maryland Jean-Jacques St. Cierge, Businessman Nesbitt Baylor, Senator Carole Martel of California, Governor Upton Fleming of Pennsylvania, Congressman Robert Woolworth of North Carolina, and Senator Robert Wallace of Vermont
Rodriguez: Each candidate will now be given 90 seconds to introduce themselves and make an opening statement before the start of the debate.
OOC: Welcome to the first debate of the Twilight RP. It will function as follows. Their will be 1 debate question every day ie: Do you support Roe v. Wade . For the next 12 hours OOC each participant in the Debate will have 90 seconds to answer that question.
People speak an average of 140 words per minute, a fast speaker about 170 words and a slow speaker about 110. Most politicians speak at 120 words per minute because it's easier to understand and comprehend a slow speaker so don’t try and jam words in. The MAXIMUM number of words acceptable for a 90 second debate response is 260 words. The microphone WILL BE CUT OFF after 260 words and no one will hear the candidate.
After the 12 hour mark a period of ‘free discussion’ will follow, also 12 hours long. The candidates may engage and challenge one another, provided it is limited to the topic of the question. Once that 12 hour mark is up another question will be asked by the moderator. ANY POSTS REGARDING THE PREVIOUS QUESTION AFTER THIS POINT WILL NOT BE COUNTED .
Now we understand the irl comes first you might not be able to participate every day, thats fine you will get other chances to debate. If you can’t participate on a question in the IC, in the RP your character will have answered the question, it just wasn’t interesting or memorable.
Since we're facing a predictably disastrous Iraq War and Cush Government, who's rare bipartisanship has been more destructive than constructive, I would also like to thank our hosts for giving the American people an opportunity to hear our arguments and interrogate our records.
I grew up in a Philadelphia, where I learned from family, friends and faith, to help the less fortunate. By the 80s, I learned a great deal of this misfortunate stems from our politics imposing costs on those with less for the benefit of those with more. By the end of the 80s, I learned that a forceful commitment to the economic well being of all can pull neighborhoods that once cast their lot with a segregationist, into a multiracial coalition for change.
In the 90s, I proudly served in the [Not-Clinton] Administration as staff to our then Ambassador to the United Nations, where I helped bring international coalitions together for justice. In 1997, I was elected to the office of District Attorney in Philadelphia, where we lowered the rate of murder at a rate significantly faster than the national average. It was record which allowed me to run for and become the Governor of Pennsylvania. There, I've managed to handle dealing with a republican legislature, to implement policies standing for solidarity, justice and merit.
We don't need, in our presidency, a right-leaning conservativism that refuses to engage with the challenges of the present, or a left-leaning liberalism with meek programs easily hijacked by special interests, but a forward-leaning progressivism that delivers direct, meaningful, change for all.
by Madrinpoor » Mon Mar 28, 2022 10:36 am
by Kargintinia » Mon Mar 28, 2022 11:35 am
"Our country desperately needs new leadership. This absolutely incompetent leadership has led us into an unnecessary war in Iraq, greatly increased economic inequality, allowed disasters like Katrina and brought on rampant corruption. There is no question our nation is in crisis. It's disgraceful, really it is. Now more than ever we need a real outsider to replace John Cush and clean up this swamp that has invested Washington. That is why I am running for President. My name is Tripp Baylor, and I will clean up this nation. I will bring our boys home from Iraq, address climate change and make the economic situation for you, the viewer at home.
People close to me have asked, "Mr. Baylor, are you sure you want to give up this life you have?" And first I reply "Please, call me Tripp," than I say "For America? Of course." So here I am, you can call me Tripp and together we'll get things done."
by Vaquas » Mon Mar 28, 2022 1:25 pm
Dentali wrote:FIRST DEMOCRATIC DEBATE
LOCATION: Denver, Colorado
Good Evening and Welcome to the first Democratic Debate, my name is Melissa Rodriguez from CNN and I will be moderating this debate hosted by CNN and the University of Colorado. Tonight our participants are all seeking the Democratic nomination for President of the United States. And I will introduce them now.
(Candidates enter Left to Right crossing the stage and going to their assigned podium, the person with the highest national polling will be in the center)
Senator Everest Laakso of North Dakota, Former Mayor of Baltimore, Maryland Jean-Jacques St. Cierge, Businessman Nesbitt Baylor, Senator Carole Martel of California, Governor Upton Fleming of Pennsylvania, Congressman Robert Woolworth of North Carolina, and Senator Robert Wallace of Vermont
Rodriguez: Each candidate will now be given 90 seconds to introduce themselves and make an opening statement before the start of the debate.
OOC: Welcome to the first debate of the Twilight RP. It will function as follows. Their will be 1 debate question every day ie: Do you support Roe v. Wade . For the next 12 hours OOC each participant in the Debate will have 90 seconds to answer that question.
People speak an average of 140 words per minute, a fast speaker about 170 words and a slow speaker about 110. Most politicians speak at 120 words per minute because it's easier to understand and comprehend a slow speaker so don’t try and jam words in. The MAXIMUM number of words acceptable for a 90 second debate response is 260 words. The microphone WILL BE CUT OFF after 260 words and no one will hear the candidate.
After the 12 hour mark a period of ‘free discussion’ will follow, also 12 hours long. The candidates may engage and challenge one another, provided it is limited to the topic of the question. Once that 12 hour mark is up another question will be asked by the moderator. ANY POSTS REGARDING THE PREVIOUS QUESTION AFTER THIS POINT WILL NOT BE COUNTED .
Now we understand the irl comes first you might not be able to participate every day, thats fine you will get other chances to debate. If you can’t participate on a question in the IC, in the RP your character will have answered the question, it just wasn’t interesting or memorable.
Sunday, April 1, 2007
First Democratic Debate, Denver, Colorado
Senator Everest Laakso (D-ND)
"Folks, the failures of this administration weren't accidental. The American people were willfully lied to to create the pretext for a war in Iraq that should never have been started, and today our men and women in uniform are stuck paying the price, often with their lives. The American people were willfully lied to when they were told that President Cush's tax plan would benefit them, only for it to put more money into the pockets of the ultra rich, leaving workers behind. The American people were willfully ignored when they most needed help in New Orleans, when President Cush drug his feet not by accident, but on purpose."
"This administration's policy has been a policy of organized lies, failure, and incompetence, and that is a policy that will come to an end on day one of the Laakso administration. I'm running for President because I've got a proven track record of standing up for real, working class Americans, not stockbrokers and special interests. I was against the war in Iraq from day one, I took the lead on legislation to rebuild this nation's critical infrastructure and provide services to our rural communities, and I won millions in damages for victims of predatory companies as Attorney General of North Dakota. I'm running because there's a better way, America, one that brings us forward to new days of economic prosperity, peace at home, and respect abroad. Washington needs a major course correction, and that's what I intend to deliver to the White House."
by Dentali » Tue Mar 29, 2022 4:20 am
by Jovuistan » Tue Mar 29, 2022 5:16 am
Dentali wrote:Democratic Debate 1
Question 1
CNN: In November of 2002 Congress passed the Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002 by a wide bi-partisan margin. Since the invasion of Iraq public support of the war has dropped significantly with many believing we had not effectively planned or established achievable objectives. Should you be elected President under what circumstances would you support military actions and deployment of troops overseas?
by Madrinpoor » Tue Mar 29, 2022 5:20 am
Dentali wrote:Democratic Debate 1
Question 1
CNN: In November of 2002 Congress passed the Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002 by a wide bi-partisan margin. Since the invasion of Iraq public support of the war has dropped significantly with many believing we had not effectively planned or established achievable objectives. Should you be elected President under what circumstances would you support military actions and deployment of troops overseas?
by Kargintinia » Tue Mar 29, 2022 7:55 am
”The United States must withdrawal from Iraq! When I am president I will ensure the United States fully pulls our troops out of Iraq by 2010. I have been fighting this war since the beginning. Organizing protests and rallies. No one is more qualified and committed to ending the War in Iraq as me.
I only support deployment of American troops in examples where there is a clear threat to the United States. Al-Qaeda and Osama Bin Laden are that threat. After I withdrawal from Iraq I will focus our efforts on Afghanistan and bomb, bomb, bomb the hell out of A-Qaeda and the Taliban. I will negotiate with Kim Jong-Il and the Ayyatollah to ensure peace and discourage them from nuclearizing. I’ve spoken to world leaders before to make deals as CEO, and I’ll do it again as President.
by Cybernetic Socialist Republics » Tue Mar 29, 2022 8:07 am
Dentali wrote:Democratic Debate 1
Question 1
CNN: In November of 2002 Congress passed the Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002 by a wide bi-partisan margin. Since the invasion of Iraq public support of the war has dropped significantly with many believing we had not effectively planned or established achievable objectives. Should you be elected President under what circumstances would you support military actions and deployment of troops overseas?
The Iraq War has been a disaster. I support a maximally safe and timely withdrawal. There's a sad irony that in a Cush presidency that's been largely void of bipartisanship, the most important example of it has been the authorization of the Iraq war, which has predictably destroyed countless lives, cost hundreds of billions and severely harmed the international goodwill the [not-Clinton Administration had built up. Most house democrats had the foresight to oppose authorization. Many Senate democrats, like Senator Martel, didn't, having voted to authorize an intervention she now suggests was 'mindless'.
I wouldn't be so harsh on you, Senator, intelligent people can get caught up in irrational hysteria, however such people aren't particularly leadership material. Look, we lacked agreement from the United Nations to go into Iraq. Most of our allies, who've been fighting the Taliban with us, refused to join us in a war on Iraq. [Not-Cheney] himself, during the Presidency of Cush's father, explained why an invasion of Iraq was not in our interests.
Those facts help illustrate when I'd be willing to consider deploying military force. If approval from the United Nations is forthcoming, if our allies are in agreement on intervention and/or if our security interests are threatened. To be clear, leading the free world is fundamental to our security interests, which must include unequivocally advancing human rights. As an example, I'd authorize capacity preserving interventions against genocide. Costly wars like Iraq are not, for example, capacity preserving, as we see how it has distracted us from our legitimate intervention in Afghanistan.
by Jovuistan » Tue Mar 29, 2022 8:39 am
Cybernetic Socialist Republics wrote:Dentali wrote:Democratic Debate 1
Question 1
CNN: In November of 2002 Congress passed the Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002 by a wide bi-partisan margin. Since the invasion of Iraq public support of the war has dropped significantly with many believing we had not effectively planned or established achievable objectives. Should you be elected President under what circumstances would you support military actions and deployment of troops overseas?
FIRST DEMOCRATIC DEBATE
GOVERNOR UPTON FLEMINGThe Iraq War has been a disaster. I support a maximally safe and timely withdrawal. There's a sad irony that in a Cush presidency that's been largely void of bipartisanship, the most important example of it has been the authorization of the Iraq war, which has predictably destroyed countless lives, cost hundreds of billions and severely harmed the international goodwill the [not-Clinton Administration had built up. Most house democrats had the foresight to oppose authorization. Many Senate democrats, like Senator Martel, didn't, having voted to authorize an intervention she now suggests was 'mindless'.
I wouldn't be so harsh on you, Senator, intelligent people can get caught up in irrational hysteria, however such people aren't particularly leadership material. Look, we lacked agreement from the United Nations to go into Iraq. Most of our allies, who've been fighting the Taliban with us, refused to join us in a war on Iraq. [Not-Cheney] himself, during the Presidency of Cush's father, explained why an invasion of Iraq was not in our interests.
Those facts help illustrate when I'd be willing to consider deploying military force. If approval from the United Nations is forthcoming, if our allies are in agreement on intervention and/or if our security interests are threatened. To be clear, leading the free world is fundamental to our security interests, which must include unequivocally advancing human rights. As an example, I'd authorize capacity preserving interventions against genocide. Costly wars like Iraq are not, for example, capacity preserving, as we see how it has distracted us from our legitimate intervention in Afghanistan.
by Vaquas » Tue Mar 29, 2022 8:59 am
"Senator Martel had all the same information I did and she still chose to send American soldiers into Iraq. I understand that she has come to regret that decision, but making excuses about lack of intelligence doesn't square with the fact that President Cush manufactured this entire affair from the ground up, and the Senator knows that. As someone who was actually against this war from the beginning, with the voting record to prove it, here's what I think: The top priority of the next President of the United States must be a swift and immediate withdrawal of all American forces in Iraq, full stop. Anything less than that is simply unacceptable, and that's as simple as it has to be."
"Now, to answer your question about use of force more generally, I believe that our military exists first and foremost to defend us from attack. If our nation comes under assault, as it did on September 11th, we must respond, and we did. Anything beyond acting in a defensive capacity to protect ourselves and our allies is a misuse of our armed forces as far as I'm concerned, and under a Laakso administration you will see no military action that violates that basic principle."
by Jovuistan » Tue Mar 29, 2022 9:08 am
Vaquas wrote:(Image)
"Senator Martel had all the same information I did and she still chose to send American soldiers into Iraq. I understand that she has come to regret that decision, but making excuses about lack of intelligence doesn't square with the fact that President Cush manufactured this entire affair from the ground up, and the Senator knows that. As someone who was actually against this war from the beginning, with the voting record to prove it, here's what I think: The top priority of the next President of the United States must be a swift and immediate withdrawal of all American forces in Iraq, full stop. Anything less than that is simply unacceptable, and that's as simple as it has to be."
"Now, to answer your question about use of force more generally, I believe that our military exists first and foremost to defend us from attack. If our nation comes under assault, as it did on September 11th, we must respond, and we did. Anything beyond acting in a defensive capacity to protect ourselves and our allies is a misuse of our armed forces as far as I'm concerned, and under a Laakso administration you will see no military action that violates that basic principle."
by Kargintinia » Tue Mar 29, 2022 9:18 am
“Ofcourse, I wholeheartedly agree that Senator Martel’s vote should absolutely disqualify her, I find it awfully hypocritical that the man who managed to avoid the AUMF vote from a comfy seat in Pennsylvania is the first one to cast a stone.
Not only has he not been put to the test on the vote, he has no record to backup his opposition to the war. Since day 1, and I mean day 1 I was organizing protests against this unjust and unnecessary war in Iraq. I mean, we don’t really know anything about this guy. How do we know he’s got what it takes to go toe-to-toe with Kim Jong-Il or Hu Jintao? America, if you want to look for respect abroad, this is not your guy, trust me.
by Cybernetic Socialist Republics » Tue Mar 29, 2022 9:36 am
Kargintinia wrote:“Ofcourse, I wholeheartedly agree that Senator Martel’s vote should absolutely disqualify her, I find it awfully hypocritical that the man who managed to avoid the AUMF vote from a comfy seat in Pennsylvania is the first one to cast a stone.
Not only has he not been put to the test on the vote, he has no record to backup his opposition to the war. Since day 1, and I mean day 1 I was organizing protests against this unjust and unnecessary war in Iraq. I mean, we don’t really know anything about this guy. How do we know he’s got what it takes to go toe-to-toe with Kim Jong-Il or Hu Jintao? America, if you want to look for respect abroad, this is not your guy, trust me.
Excuse me, Mr. Baylor, I did not sit comfortably in Pennsylvania, as governor, too many times I had to be there to comfort grieving Husbands and Wives, Mothers and Fathers, Brothers and Sisters, Sons and Daughters, who lost loved ones in this costly, tragic and unnecessary war. So instead of focusing on that which I had no vote on and antagonizing a republican legislature I had to work with, I focused on doing my part to improve the country that those men and women who fight died abroad intended to defend. Leadership in the public sector requires a painful sort of prioritization that simply doesn't exist in the corporate boardrooms that you're most familiar with, Mr. Baylor.
by Kargintinia » Tue Mar 29, 2022 9:55 am
Cybernetic Socialist Republics wrote:Kargintinia wrote:“Ofcourse, I wholeheartedly agree that Senator Martel’s vote should absolutely disqualify her, I find it awfully hypocritical that the man who managed to avoid the AUMF vote from a comfy seat in Pennsylvania is the first one to cast a stone.
Not only has he not been put to the test on the vote, he has no record to backup his opposition to the war. Since day 1, and I mean day 1 I was organizing protests against this unjust and unnecessary war in Iraq. I mean, we don’t really know anything about this guy. How do we know he’s got what it takes to go toe-to-toe with Kim Jong-Il or Hu Jintao? America, if you want to look for respect abroad, this is not your guy, trust me.
FIRST DEMOCRATIC DEBATE
GOVERNOR UPTON FLEMINGExcuse me, Mr. Baylor, I did not sit comfortably in Pennsylvania, as governor, too many times I had to be there to comfort grieving Husbands and Wives, Mothers and Fathers, Brothers and Sisters, Sons and Daughters, who lost loved ones in this costly, tragic and unnecessary war. So instead of focusing on that which I had no vote on and antagonizing a republican legislature I had to work with, I focused on doing my part to improve the country that those men and women who fight died abroad intended to defend. Leadership in the public sector requires a painful sort of prioritization that simply doesn't exist in the corporate boardrooms that you're most familiar with, Mr. Baylor.
”Governor Fleming, I’m sure you’ve heard of the term “multi-tasking right? In 2005 while I was in New Orleans helping organize relief efforts to make up for this incompetent administration’s failures, I also had volunteers working with my organization protesting the war in Iraq.
I think the truth is more evident here than ever folks. Little Upton is so far out of his depth. He doesn’t have the stamina to lead the free world, hell, he doesn’t have the stamina to lead Pennsylvania. America wants a leader, not a Boy Scout like Little Upton.”
by Vaquas » Tue Mar 29, 2022 10:12 am
by Dentali » Tue Mar 29, 2022 10:27 am
by Madrinpoor » Tue Mar 29, 2022 10:43 am
by Alozia » Tue Mar 29, 2022 12:26 pm
Dentali wrote:Democratic Debate 1
Question 1
CNN: In November of 2002 Congress passed the Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002 by a wide bi-partisan margin. Since the invasion of Iraq public support of the war has dropped significantly with many believing we had not effectively planned or established achievable objectives. Should you be elected President under what circumstances would you support military actions and deployment of troops overseas?
(Ironic; me when I see Gord)Gordano and Lysandus wrote:I swear you are the LOTF Mariah sometimes
Peoples shara wrote: "Die nasty!!111"
by Mareadmonte » Tue Mar 29, 2022 2:51 pm
Dentali wrote:Democratic Debate 1
Question 1
CNN: In November of 2002 Congress passed the Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002 by a wide bi-partisan margin. Since the invasion of Iraq public support of the war has dropped significantly with many believing we had not effectively planned or established achievable objectives. Should you be elected President under what circumstances would you support military actions and deployment of troops overseas?
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