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Postby CUTE PANDASSSSSSSSSSSS » Tue Jan 04, 2022 4:17 am

Destructive Government Economic System wrote:Omg cute pandas!

Ok, maybe it's not the topic of this thread but I can't help it

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Postby Vylixan » Tue Jan 04, 2022 8:40 am

There is an old saying about this: If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen

That's also the reason I try to stay away from inflating. I find it scary enough to have to transfer smalltime amounts of bank. Going up against people like Mike and Gio just to get some virtual numbers added to my nations stats, no thank you.

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Postby Furballland » Tue Jan 04, 2022 8:58 am

Vylixan wrote:There is an old saying about this: If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen

That's also the reason I try to stay away from inflating. I find it scary enough to have to transfer smalltime amounts of bank. Going up against people like Mike and Gio just to get some virtual numbers added to my nations stats, no thank you.

Even varanius inflated your cards.
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Postby Vylixan » Wed Jan 05, 2022 12:11 am

Furballland wrote:
Vylixan wrote:There is an old saying about this: If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen

That's also the reason I try to stay away from inflating. I find it scary enough to have to transfer smalltime amounts of bank. Going up against people like Mike and Gio just to get some virtual numbers added to my nations stats, no thank you.

Even varanius inflated your cards.


Your point being?

I collect a massive region collection of 6849 S2 cards of The Pacific. Statisticly speaking it's not that weird that about 50 of those cards have been inflated as of now. Especially as 99% of that inflating has happened long after I collected those card. I don't like it, but there is nothing I can do about it.

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Postby Furballland » Wed Jan 05, 2022 12:46 am

Vylixan wrote:
Furballland wrote:Even varanius inflated your cards.


Your point being?

I collect a massive region collection of 6849 S2 cards of The Pacific. Statisticly speaking it's not that weird that about 50 of those cards have been inflated as of now. Especially as 99% of that inflating has happened long after I collected those card. I don't like it, but there is nothing I can do about it.

Agreed.
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Postby Mornelak » Thu Jan 06, 2022 8:02 am

The fact that most of the people here are cool with this practise is pretty horrifying to me.

I'm not involved in the card market seriously at all, I junk anything under epic because I like having a fancy collection and I started buying my own cards as a joke, and built a pretty nice collection.

I started inflating my card's value because I'd heard it can make your next season's card a higher rarity, not because of any sinister motivation, I wasn't intending on selling them off or manipulating anything else, I just wanted a fancy border on my card when S3 rocks around.

I'm now broke, without enough bank to even expand my deck capacity, and the advice in this thread is 'suck it up or heist someone else'.

I mess around with NationStates in my breaks at work because it's a fun passive thing I can work on over time, now I've been shafted and there's buggerall I can do about it. I don't have the time to invest in heisting anyone else, and it's a scummy practise that I don't want to engage in regardless.

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Postby Untecna » Thu Jan 06, 2022 8:06 am

Mornelak wrote:The fact that most of the people here are cool with this practise is pretty horrifying to me.

I'm not involved in the card market seriously at all, I junk anything under epic because I like having a fancy collection and I started buying my own cards as a joke, and built a pretty nice collection.

I started inflating my card's value because I'd heard it can make your next season's card a higher rarity, not because of any sinister motivation, I wasn't intending on selling them off or manipulating anything else, I just wanted a fancy border on my card when S3 rocks around.

I'm now broke, without enough bank to even expand my deck capacity, and the advice in this thread is 'suck it up or heist someone else'.

I mess around with NationStates in my breaks at work because it's a fun passive thing I can work on over time, now I've been shafted and there's buggerall I can do about it. I don't have the time to invest in heisting anyone else, and it's a scummy practise that I don't want to engage in regardless.

Awesome... :meh:

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Postby Mornelak » Thu Jan 06, 2022 8:32 am

Untecna wrote:
Mornelak wrote:The fact that most of the people here are cool with this practise is pretty horrifying to me.

I'm not involved in the card market seriously at all, I junk anything under epic because I like having a fancy collection and I started buying my own cards as a joke, and built a pretty nice collection.

I started inflating my card's value because I'd heard it can make your next season's card a higher rarity, not because of any sinister motivation, I wasn't intending on selling them off or manipulating anything else, I just wanted a fancy border on my card when S3 rocks around.

I'm now broke, without enough bank to even expand my deck capacity, and the advice in this thread is 'suck it up or heist someone else'.

I mess around with NationStates in my breaks at work because it's a fun passive thing I can work on over time, now I've been shafted and there's buggerall I can do about it. I don't have the time to invest in heisting anyone else, and it's a scummy practise that I don't want to engage in regardless.

Awesome... :meh:

Investment involves risk, and you fell to that risk. There's nothing else that can really be said about it.


I wasn't aware it was risky to begin with, nor that it was an 'investment' in any significant way. It's a common rarity S2 card for a nobody nation who isn't involved in anything, with very few owners who were almost all card farmers and the nation that heisted the 12 bank has well over 250 bank to their name, so for them it's an inconsequential amount.

Increasing the value of the card is basically the only thing I can do now to increase the potential rarity of my S3 card, I've got a handful of easter eggs, founded a region and getting stats into the 1% takes time when I'm trying to maintain my nation as well. I suppose it's my fault for wanting a colourful border around my card when S3 comes around lol.

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Postby Coffin-Breathe » Thu Jan 06, 2022 11:27 am

Mornelak wrote:The fact that most of the people here are cool with this practise is pretty horrifying to me.

That´s untrue - not everyone likes or practizes this abusement of the system, but there´s practically nothing anyone can do against as a player (only admins could stop or at least restrict it by changing the rules/closing the loopholes, but such changes are not wanted, it seems).
Mornelak wrote:I started inflating my card's value because I'd heard it can make your next season's card a higher rarity, not because of any sinister motivation, I wasn't intending on selling them off or manipulating anything else, I just wanted a fancy border on my card when S3 rocks around.

Who told you so ? It can only be a rumour, as no one really knows, how and which parameters are set, when card rarity is fixed for 3 series (if there is one, ever); but one thing is for sure : the "artwork badge" will be much less decisive than everything else, because rarity is chosen in relation to the whole NS-game, not because of one single badge related to a mere sub-game. You better invest your time in bringing some more of your states up to "gold" and playing an active role in the overall game (posting, writing issues, being remarkable otherwise) than relying on this very uninteresting "artwork badge", if you want a better rarity for your nation.

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Postby Fauzjhia » Thu Jan 06, 2022 12:17 pm

Coffin-Breathe wrote:
Mornelak wrote:The fact that most of the people here are cool with this practise is pretty horrifying to me.

That´s untrue - not everyone likes or practizes this abusement of the system, but there´s practically nothing anyone can do against as a player (only admins could stop or at least restrict it by changing the rules/closing the loopholes, but such changes are not wanted, it seems).
Mornelak wrote:I started inflating my card's value because I'd heard it can make your next season's card a higher rarity, not because of any sinister motivation, I wasn't intending on selling them off or manipulating anything else, I just wanted a fancy border on my card when S3 rocks around.

Who told you so ? It can only be a rumour, as no one really knows, how and which parameters are set, when card rarity is fixed for 3 series (if there is one, ever); but one thing is for sure : the "artwork badge" will be much less decisive than everything else, because rarity is chosen in relation to the whole NS-game, not because of one single badge related to a mere sub-game. You better invest your time in bringing some more of your states up to "gold" and playing an active role in the overall game (posting, writing issues, being remarkable otherwise) than relying on this very uninteresting "artwork badge", if you want a better rarity for your nation.



they confirmed that a position inside the top 250 in international artwork value will count as a part of your rarity in s3
however inflating your card only to 251 will not count and its not certain this will allow you to get a higher rarity.

with very high deck value, a card could see its value increased.
but we don't know how our stat factor in our rarity.
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Postby Mornelak » Thu Jan 06, 2022 2:02 pm

Coffin-Breathe wrote:
Mornelak wrote:The fact that most of the people here are cool with this practise is pretty horrifying to me.

That´s untrue - not everyone likes or practizes this abusement of the system, but there´s practically nothing anyone can do against as a player (only admins could stop or at least restrict it by changing the rules/closing the loopholes, but such changes are not wanted, it seems).
Mornelak wrote:I started inflating my card's value because I'd heard it can make your next season's card a higher rarity, not because of any sinister motivation, I wasn't intending on selling them off or manipulating anything else, I just wanted a fancy border on my card when S3 rocks around.

Who told you so ? It can only be a rumour, as no one really knows, how and which parameters are set, when card rarity is fixed for 3 series (if there is one, ever); but one thing is for sure : the "artwork badge" will be much less decisive than everything else, because rarity is chosen in relation to the whole NS-game, not because of one single badge related to a mere sub-game. You better invest your time in bringing some more of your states up to "gold" and playing an active role in the overall game (posting, writing issues, being remarkable otherwise) than relying on this very uninteresting "artwork badge", if you want a better rarity for your nation.


It's stated in this post https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1301086 that your deck value affects your potential rarity in S3. Turns out I actually misunderstood this when I first read this, and thought that the value of my previous card was the deciding factor, not the value of your deck. However, with the number of my own cards that I own, and the subsequent inflation of their value, it has actually raised my deck value substantially, and it is my newest 1% badge.

I've been going through that list and doing what I can to increase my potential rarity, I have found several easter eggs, founded my own region, increasing my deck value and have been trying to increase more of my stats to the 1% threshold, but that's slowgoing. Unfortunately being commended or condemned is basically impossible for me since I am so unknown and I'm not active, well-known or have been here long enough to be a volunteer. My only other options are becoming a site supporter, which I'm considering since it's cheap, but I think my main option now is authoring issues, but I'd like to produce ones that are actually good, not sharted out for the sake of it.
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Postby Voxija » Thu Jan 06, 2022 2:07 pm

Back when I was in the cards game, I liked stealing everyone else's bank.
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Postby Diarcesia » Thu Jan 06, 2022 2:10 pm

Furballland wrote:I wast trying to inflate my card, then, giovanniland tries to steal my bank, especially Gio21

Gio: Kore ga... requiem... da.

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Postby Luna Amore » Thu Jan 06, 2022 5:07 pm

CUTE PANDASSSSSSSSSSSS wrote:
Furballland wrote:I was inflating kussadistan, then gio2 tries to steal my bank, and then they made me broke, now i can't even inflate my card cuz i don't have bank, or buy cards to save bank, so i will bank farm myself for 2 months.

Its *gio21* u idiot!

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Postby CUTE PANDASSSSSSSSSSSS » Sat Jan 08, 2022 4:23 am

Luna Amore wrote:
CUTE PANDASSSSSSSSSSSS wrote:Its *gio21* u idiot!

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Sorry, cuz furballland mistankenly wrote gio2 instead of gio21.
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Postby Giraffeton » Thu Jan 13, 2022 8:54 pm

New Makasta wrote:That evil Gio! you should take actions angist them and condmen them! its the only way to show that evil hiester

create a SC proposal then, your only gonna help them by giving them a rare badge
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Postby Outer Sparta » Thu Jan 13, 2022 9:00 pm

Should have pulled off a PSG.
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Postby Giraffeton » Thu Jan 13, 2022 9:01 pm

may i ask what is a PSG?
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Postby Outer Sparta » Thu Jan 13, 2022 9:05 pm

Giraffeton wrote:may i ask what is a PSG?

Qatari club in Paris. Well-known for inflating transfer fees. Whenever someone inflates a common card to an absurd value, that's what I call pulling off a PSG. That is, if you bottle it and fail to inflate your own card you want, then it makes you look silly in the market.
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Postby Catsfern » Thu Jan 13, 2022 9:13 pm

welcome to the card market, shit happens.

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Postby The H Corporation » Thu Jan 13, 2022 9:18 pm

It happens and there is nothing we can do about it. Just deal with it and move on
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Postby Dertarae » Thu Jan 13, 2022 9:22 pm

Watching the card market manipulators get what's coming to them and then publicly QQ like they weren't doing something mildly unethical in the first place is fulfilling. Feed us your tears, little one. I junk all the cards I get from issues that are rare or less, and from time to time, they show up in my inbox like I'm killing their market. It amuses me greatly. With the single exception of my one legendary, I got my collection out of issue packs alone. I intentionally overpaid for my legendary just so I could have it immediately. The market is overrated.
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Postby Plus Nova Imperii » Thu Jan 13, 2022 9:28 pm

I think Gio should steal everyones bank
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Postby Coffin-Breathe » Fri Jan 14, 2022 4:46 am

Nooooooooooooooo wrote:I think Gio should steal the rich's bank and give to the needy (me)

Owning 75 legendaries and hordes of puppets is not exactly what I would call "needy"...just let me correct this typing error, as I´m pretty sure, you meant "greedy" :p

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