[PASSED] Liberate A Liberal Haven

[Sedgistan]

We're currently in process to attain native consent for this, but figured I'll put up a draft for it. Thanks to Refuge Isle and Grea Kriopia for the help in quickly checking this over;

The Security Council,

Recognizing A Liberal Haven's exalted status as one of the oldest regions in the multiverse, having been founded on August 7, 2003,

Cognizant of the region’s continuous struggle for survival since its founder, Polaris and Vega, ceased to exist in 2011, making it a prime target for various invader forces over the course of the last decade,

Acknowledging the current quarantined state of the region, enacted by its long-time delegate Garchyland to safeguard the region from destructive incursions,

Disheartened that, on January 2, 2022, an invader contingent invaded A Liberal Haven and seized its control from Garchyland by using a sleeper agent that had been planted inside the region's walls many years prior,

Noting that parties involved in this occupation have reaffirmed their commitment to region destruction through a multitude of invasions in the past, including but not limited to The Lefts Nirvana, Hogwarts and Liberty Nations Alliance,

Horrified at the implications of letting this occupation go unchallenged, which will surely endanger this historic region's very existence if not acted upon soon,

Preparing the constituents of this hallowed chamber for what they must do to save an innocent region from being resigned to a mere invader trophy, and

Wishing for the return of native control over the region as soon as possible,

Hereby liberates A Liberal Haven.

[William]

Observing that on January 2, 2021,

Uh, Moon? It's 2022

Otherwise, this looks great. I'm sure the GP community will recognize the urgency of this liberation and get this thing passed.

-Eshia

[Reventus Koth]

We're currently in process to attain native consent for this

Which "natives" do you plan to consent to this? The defender plants older than Vandoosa's puppet or the others who have been there for less time than him, including the former delegate?

The most important native has already spoken. This is what is best.

[Bhang Bhang Duc]

Just a very quick suggestion.

This:

Hereby liberates A Liberal Haven, and wishes for the return of native control over the region as soon as possible.

Becomes this:

Wishing for the return of native control over the region as soon as possible,

Hereby liberates A Liberal Haven.

[Minskiev]

L-L-Liberals?

Support, naturally, and will be pinging some delegates.

[Andusre]

Cognizant of the relations A Liberal Haven has formed over its existence, including prominent regions such as Forest, Hell and The Social Liberal Union,

I don't really think this adds very much to the argument to liberate. Notable? Absolutely, but not particularly relevant in a resolution like this.

Believing in every region's Violet-given right to exist, provided they're not of problematic nature and haven’t infringed on other regions' sovereignty,

I would advise against using contracted verbs. They're --> They are, Haven't --> Have not (and also "other regions' sovereignty" --> "the sovereignty of other regions", even though that isn't a verb). Reason I suggest this is because contracted speech/text is usually quite informal, which isn't a tone I imagine you want to strike on a proposal like this.

I also find "Violet-given" a bit weird, but that's just me & it's a very minor quibble.

Noting that parties involved in this occupation have reaffirmed their commitment to region destruction through both words and deeds in the past, including but not limited to The Lefts Nirvana, Hogwarts and Liberty Nations Alliance,

The list of regions feels a bit unnecessary. It makes me want to go read about the history of what happened to those 3 regions, thus detracting focus from ALH.

Bracing ourselves for what we must do to save an innocent region from being resigned to a mere trophy in the invaders' collection,

"Bracing ourselves" --> "Bracing itself"
Using "ourselves" means your proposal - given the start of your draft begins with "The Security Council" - will read as "The Security Council, bracing ourselves..." which is awkward wording and is possibly a rule violation.

Hereby liberates A Liberal Haven, and wishes for the return of native control over the region as soon as possible.

Everything after the region tag should be removed from the operative clause. Operative clauses ought to be short and sharp, and more words blunts your narrative. If you would like to nod to the impending liberation, you can always make it its own clause just before the operative clause. For example:
"Wishing for the return of native control of the region as soon as possible,

Hereby liberates A Liberal Haven".

[WayNeacTia]

Pretty sure the 20 or so defender plants in the region have the situation well under control.

[Honeydewistania]

raidin is bad, so i support

[Vando0sa]

My pupput is a native of almost 6 years so instead of liberating maybe just look at a flower instead..

[Suratia]

I like the suggestions made by Andusre. Tidy those few things up and I'd be happy to vote in support of it.

[All Wild Things]

"Believing in every region's Violet-given right to exist, provided they're not of problematic nature and haven’t infringed on other regions' sovereignty"

This clause is outside of the scope of what the Liberation is ostensibly trying to achieve. You are saying here that some regions should not have the right to exist.

For example, TWP have raided regions in the past. That is, they have infringed on other regions' sovereignty. You are asking us to declare that TWP (and others) have no right to exist.

Which is particularly silly, as I would suspect it was [violet] herself who gave TWP the right to exist.

[Emodea]

Uh, Moon? It's 2022

Fixed.

Which "natives" do you plan to consent to this? The defender plants older than Vandoosa's puppet or the others who have been there for less time than him, including the former delegate?

The most important native has already spoken. This is what is best.

A sleeper, regardless of its origins, isn't a native of a region. It is usually placed by a R/Der to gain advantage in a raid or a liberation. A sleeper doesn't participate in the community of a region or meaningfully contribute to the region's betterment except bloat its population count during its stay there. It's there for only one purpose; to act as a vessel of someone participating in military gameplay. To claim that Vandoosa's sleeper was a "native" of ALH is a poor attempt to spin and justify what is a clear-cut invasion of an innocent region, period.

Furthermore, your assertion that Garchyland isn't a longtime resident of the region is plain wrong. NSHistory shows that they've been in the region and served as its delegate since at least early 2009, for over 12 years now. Considering that this region have been raided before multiple times, with the last one coming in late 2016, and digging from other sources, it is abundantly clear that they lost their residency streak in that last invasion.

If you're going to judge who is a native based on planted sleepers and residency streaks now, then you probably need to revisit your understanding of what a native is.

Just a very quick suggestion.

This:

Hereby liberates A Liberal Haven, and wishes for the return of native control over the region as soon as possible.

Becomes this:

Wishing for the return of native control over the region as soon as possible,

Hereby liberates A Liberal Haven.

Incorporated.

-snip-

Incorporated most of it, left the Noting clause there to hammer in the notion that this is no mere harmless hold with no griefing and such. This is a destructive occupation undertaken by some of the most nefarious actors NationStates have ever seen, organizations who've a proven track record of destroying regions when they're allowed to. If the Security Council doesn't intervene, this region is sure to be doomed to be nothing but a trophy region for its usurpers.

Pretty sure the 20 or so defender plants in the region have the situation well under control.

Pretty sure that most of the 20 or so defender sleepers in the region is owned by a single person, likely as relics from the times the region was liberated in the past. Trust me, I have marginally better access to information than you.

My pupput is a native of almost 6 years so instead of liberating maybe just look at a flower instead..

"Believing in every region's Violet-given right to exist, provided they're not of problematic nature and haven’t infringed on other regions' sovereignty"

This clause is outside of the scope of what the Liberation is ostensibly trying to achieve. You are saying here that some regions should not have the right to exist.

For example, TWP have raided regions in the past. That is, they have infringed on other regions' sovereignty. You are asking us to declare that TWP (and others) have no right to exist.

Which is particularly silly, as I would suspect it was [violet] herself who gave TWP the right to exist.

Makes sense to me, removed it for now.

[Great Algerstonia]

No, liberals deserve this. Also, Mallorea and Riva should resign.

[Thousand Branches]

Small little edits! Tried to whip these out as quick as possible for the lib draft (no like literally i woke up and the first thing I did was jump on here to edit xD)

Cognizant of the region’s continuous struggle for its survival since its founder, Polaris and Vega, ceased to exist in 2011, making it a prime target for various invader forces over the course of the last decade,

"its survival" --> "survival"

Observing that on January 2, 2022, an invader contingent invaded A Liberal Haven and seized its control from Garchyland through the use of an infiltrator nation, laying in wait over the course of years,

Comma after "Observing that".

This ("through the use of an infiltrator nation, laying in wait over the course of years,") would sound better as "using a sleeper agent that had been planted inside the region's walls many years prior," or something to that effect.

Noting that parties involved in this occupation have reaffirmed their commitment to region destruction through both words and deeds in the past, including but not limited to The Lefts Nirvana, Hogwarts and Liberty Nations Alliance,

Horrified at the implications of letting this occupation go unchallenged, which will surely endanger this historic region's very existence if not acted upon quickly,

These two clause could be combined into something like:

"Horrified that the occupiers have displayed a long history of merciless region destruction, and firm in the belief that these infiltrators should not be allowed to subject yet another region to chaos and ruin,"

Adds a little flavor too

Preparing the constituents of this hallowed chamber for what they must do to save an innocent region from being resigned to a mere trophy in the invaders’ collection,

I don't much like this clause tbh, it seems to be repeating what's already been said, and it also reads very odd.

Wishing for the return of native control over the region as soon as possible,

I feel like "over the region" is unnecessary.

And done! Hope these helped, have a great day!

-A

[Guess and Check]

Looks good, good luck

Stylistic quibbles you can ignore if you don't have time:

Noting that parties involved in this occupation have reaffirmed their commitment to region destruction through a multitude of invasions in the pastboth words and deeds in the past, including but not limited to occupations of The Lefts Nirvana, Hogwarts and Liberty Nations Alliance,

Preparing the constituents of this hallowed chamber for what they must do to save an innocent region from being resigned to a mere invader trophyin the invaders’ collection,

[Apatosaurus]

Full support.

Minor edits:

The Security Council,

Recognizing A Liberal Haven's exalted status as one of the oldest regions in the multiverse, having been founded on as early as August 7, 2003,

Cognizant of the region’s continuous struggle for its survival since its founder, Polaris and Vega, ceased to exist in 2011, making it a prime target for various invader forces over the course of the last decade,

Acknowledging the current quarantined state of the region, enacted by its long-time delegate Garchyland to safeguard the region from destructive incursions,

Observing Disheartened that on January 2, 2022, an invader contingent invaded A Liberal Haven and seized its control from Garchyland through the use of an infiltrator nation Got the munchies real bad man (operated by Vand0osa, an infamous raider whose predecessor is already condemned by this institution), laying in wait over the course of nearly six years,

Noting that parties involved in this occupation have reaffirmed their commitment to region destruction through both words and deeds in the past, including but not limited to The Lefts Nirvana, Hogwarts and Liberty Nations Alliance,

Horrified at the implications of letting this occupation go unchallenged, which will surely endanger this historic region's very existence if not acted upon quickly soon,

Preparing the constituents of this hallowed chamber for what they must do to save an innocent region from being resigned to a mere trophy in the invaders’ collection, and

Wishing for the return of native control over the region as soon as possible,

Hereby liberates Liberates A Liberal Haven.

[Emodea]

Made some changes based on what Ara, Zuk and Apato critiqued.

[William]

Tiny edit idea:

Preparing the constituents of this hallowed chamber for what they must do to save an innocent region from being resigned to a mere invader trophy, and

There are a few different meanings of "resigned" and, admittedly looking at a dictionary to make sure everything's right here, none of them seem to fit quite what this sentence is trying to capture. As is, this clause seems to say that the region is being given to a raider trophy, which it isn't, it's becoming one. Perhaps the following could be tried instead?

Preparing the constituents of this hallowed chamber for what they must do to save an innocent region from being converted into a mere invader trophy, and

Ofc, someone else will likely have a better way of phrasing it than this lol.

[Tinhampton]

the urgency of this liberation

Garchyland has 12,000 more influence than Republican Republic of Republica had when NWA was liberated... and Life During Wartime couldn't even get rid of him despite being propped up by sixty anti-fascists for two months.

[Apatosaurus]

the urgency of this liberation

Garchyland has 12,000 more influence than Republican Republic of Republica had when NWA was liberated... and Life During Wartime couldn't even get rid of him despite being propped up by sixty anti-fascists for two months.

That's because in the case of NWA there was no sleepy sleeper in the region for nearly six years.

EDIT: You will also find that with 76 pilers (which TBH is currently a quarter of the way through as more pilers come in) and 3 months then ejecting him would be possible, particularly as only an ejection is necessary with the password.

Even if the region does not get refounded, it's still griefing and community destruction.

[Vando0sa]

Not community destruction.. the place was already sleepy.. We brought new life so that is good I think.. an environment full of invasive species is better than a dead one!

[WayNeacTia]

Really? Seriously? We are actually pressing forward with this? After all the horn tooting going on in the Grey Warden thread, the Hawks actually manage to pull off a successful operation, now the Security Council has to get involved? It is a nothing region, that hasn’t seen meaningful activity in years. The Hawks aren’t going to refound it anyway, so take the L and move on.

No support.

[WayNeacTia]

Even if the region does not get refounded, it's still griefing and community destruction.

Wrong as usual. Vandoosa is just as much a native of the region as anyone else. He has full right to determine a new course for the region as no one else has done shit there in years.

[Lenlyvit]

Even if the region does not get refounded, it's still griefing and community destruction.

Wrong as usual. Vandoosa is just as much a native of the region as anyone else. He has full right to determine a new course for the region as no one else has done shit there in years.

I fail to see how Vandoosa has a right to charter the future of the region over the native populations wishes. Vandoosa is not a native of ALH, never has been. Having a sleeper intended to be used to attack a community does not qualify a person for native rights, they actually have to substantially contribute to the future of the region and engage.

[Reventus Koth]

I see that we continue to hear crickets about these other defen-uhh, I mean native...wishes, which apparently are so much more important to consider. It's been said in this thread by the proposal's own author: "A sleeper, regardless of its origins, isn't a native of a region".

I was corrected by the author on my wrong assumption (based on Residency stat) that Garchyland was not in A Liberal Haven for longer than Vandoosa. As the former delegate, and one of only two nations I expect are not a sleeper (read: not native) based on their WA status, I'd like to hear what they have to say. Until then, the author and their defender supporters have no more of a leg to stand on than the man with intense munchies himself.