IFAF Western Isles Cup 2022 (TWI ONLY | OOC)

[Belantica]

Nickname: Blue Tide

Offensive: 7

Defensive: 8

Goalkeepers: Daniel Skozce, Henry Byer, Alfred Hartmann

Defenders: Clancy Witter, Mark Putz, Brian Pooley, David Kenna

Midfielders: Otto Tridl, Nathan McLean, Ryan Tarney, Jacob Wintrich

Forwards: Thomas Sell, Lars Soze, Lawrence "Larry" Silchak, Damon Alter, Hermann Stesser

Formations: 3-4-3, 4-4-2

Notable Players: interesting info you might wanna add

[Asaurcmi]

THE WILD CATS

ASAURCMIAN NATIONAL MEN'S FOOTBALL TEAM

Offensive: 8 | Defensive: 5

• Goalkeepers: Comito Jisutes, Nusis Jihlui
  
• Rochmaur Sirmok, Trosumo Gruhelu, Cizulos Wolwauk
  
• Midfielders: Qunsi Alulshauk, Wonsnuo Daunshau, Claujoni Fauorilo, Niuclon Launjkaue
  
• Forwards: Mosimau Kaukojur, Irzosaun Kaumujauru, Ezaunson Alrsro, Jauwkaus Ciehu
  
• Formations: 4-2-3-1, 3-4-3

[Segentova]

Name: Segentovan Men's National Football Team

Offensive: 9
Defensive: 7

The Squad:

• Marc Boulanger (Captain)
  Attackers:
• Amos Ferrier
• Jean-Paul Dupond
• Georges Boivin
• Louis Pirelli
• Raphael Garrastazu
  Midfielders:
• Joachim Belmont
• Théophile Olivier
• Patrice O'Mally
• Sébastien Iturbura
  Defenders:
• Charles Schmitt
• Adrien Robert
  Bench:
• Alphonse Delacroix
• Lucas Gûerin
• Thibault Lévêque
  Galee:
• Robert Lémieux

Skill level: 88/100
Stand-out players:

• Amos Ferrier - Noted for his short temper, easily the teams most capable forward player. Has a history of entering into physical altercations with opponents.
• Raphael Garrastazu - Veteran player, voted Segentovas best midfielder in the 2017 and 2020 seasons.
• Patrice O'Mally - Still the youngest member of the team, now a bit more seasoned.
• Alphonse Delacroix - Replacement for the former defense player, Guillaume Paget, who died in a car crash this autumn, thus the team is officially in grief (playing with black armbands).

[Athara Magarat]

Wow, 24 teams in. Thanks to everyone who has submitted their teams so far. And a few more incoming. I believe we can reach 32 teams.

[Roendavar]

The Roendavareil National Team - Velvet Deers
i Roendavareil Thercrein Irelianarilan

Offensive: 6
Defensive: 8

Coach: Vergrion Icathreil Neilvesti

Goalkeepers: Radhmir Vazelnari Riltherias
Defenders: Theilas Varmel Cionadhril, Loerenth Vienusir Marvaleis, Ascelin Thorciel Cenedril, Cielon Stercanth Voriliael
Midfielders: Gadhriel Virestie Nestrelis, Caelin Corvelin Carthaliar-Naiselis, Hendril Ioannos Corvendhar
Forwards: Lothrei Arathila Varlanis-Vilerion, Oeranaus Tharnasti Verionaras, Reiscal Orvanil Theriscaril

Substitutes: Octavien Marfeleil Azarizith, Aegron Thorcalmirin Ithrastil, Zafanil Eilacristi Ionarin

Formations: 4-3-3 and 4-2-3-1

Notable Players:

• Lothrei Arathila Varlanis-Vilerion and Caelin Corvelin Carthaliar-Naiselis are sons from two different Roendavareil ducal families, Vilerin and Carthaliar-Naiselis. Both are well-loved in Roendavar and are adored by many, both in their country and outside.
• Radhmir Vazelnari Riltherias is the only pure Varosti blood player in the Roendavareil national team. He is the team's primary goalkeeper.
• Gadhriel Virestie Nestrelis is one of the team's top performing players. He was commended by the Roendavarian government in 2018 for his commitment to the sport and for his outstanding work.

[Scaedia]

Name: Scaedic National

Nickname: White Stars

Offensive: 3

Defensive: 2

Goalkeepers: Andej Szaned, Josef Krysztan, Almud Nej

Defenders: Boman Sod, Gunnar Steinn, Semon Lejannamuned, Tunnal Lemalainen, Alej Son, Scaed Fed


Midfielders: Banej Golar, Jalen Jena, Pitor Galned, Trysztan Galn, Fraedan Davan, Paja Nalana

Forwards: Marej Polon, Johan Kelman, Abram Folned, Jan Pula, Soma Sungal, Niklaus Handel

Formations: 3-4-3, 4-3-3

[Aecurora]

Nickname: Aecuroran All Reds

Offensive: 7

Defensive: 9

Goalkeepers: Nio Magbuhos, James Wayland

Defenders: Mahmud Celal, Hyogo Wairani, Treyten Blackfield, Arthur Leicester, Johan Gothenheid

Midfielders: Matthew Mercer, Travis Willingham, Gis Albarn, Noel Tanyag, Tang Joon-sung

Forwards: Gabriel Collins, Dion Holbourne, Dietfried Sumar, Edmond Dantes

Formations: 4-3-3, 4-2-4

[Coldwoods]

Coldwoods Men's National Football Team - Coldwoodian Black Bears

Offensive: 3

Defensive: 4

Goalkeepers: Owen Harvey, Sam Dixon

Defenders: Anthony Butler, William Therrien, Peter Reynolds, Melvin Morin, Jason Manchester

Midfielders: James Loera, Charles Levesque, Johnnie Sparks, Robert Baumgardner, James Murrell

Forwards: Terry Riley, Jessie Reyes, Frank Clark, Warren Ballard

Formations: 4-3-3, 4-2-4

Origin: The most popular sport in Coldwoods is American football by far, followed by hockey and baseball. Rich multi-billionaire, Jack McKinely, is a big fan of football and found it baffling that there was no soccer at any level past high schools in Coldwoods and formed the Coldwoods Men's National Football Team on December 24th, 2021. McKinely had to make many improvisions to get a team together in time for the 2022 WIC. Most notably, McKinely had to scrape together a team of high school students from across Coldwoods. With little interest among the populace for football, lack of talent, and the fact that high school teams are the highest level football was played at, this forced McKinely to find players among teenagers. Second, the team holds no permanent home because of its late founding. McKinely is in negotiations to purchase the Northern Goldstar Airlines Morganstown Stadium but has only managed to negotiate temporary usage. Other stadiums across Coldwoods have agreed to temporarily let the team use it. Lastly, McKinely had no takers to coach the boys, forcing him to use his own son, Michael McKinely, to coach the team. Twenty-six-year-old McKinely played football in high school and spent time overseas working as an aide to another team. Despite the odds being stacked against the team, the boys are jubilated and going to give their all.

[Ioudaia]

Nickname: Lightning

Offensive: 8

Defensive: 5

Goalkeepers:
Saraf ben Scaios Yoram
Sher Eylam ben Govad
Bogdan Scaios

Defenders:
Gabbi Choerilos
Eshed Shadi
Eutychus ben Eldad Mantes
Moti ben Zagreus
Ori Selepos
Talthybios Rishan

Midfielders:
Kaletor Enosh
Yagur Estakhirni
Xanthos ben Tal-Shahar
Limei ben Leonidas
Odaenathus ben Gev
Avitai Teuthras
Cami ben Echestratos

Forwards:
Hanan Elpides
Yishai Madozhad
Phylacus ben Chaim
Zvi ben Aristotles

Formations: 3–3–3–1, 3–4–3, 4–3–3

[Athara Magarat]

Coldwoods Men's National Football Team - Coldwoodian Black Bears

Offensive: 7

Defensive: 9

Goalkeepers: Owen Harvey, Sam Dixon

Defenders: Anthony Butler, William Therrien, Peter Reynolds, Melvin Morin, Jason Manchester

Midfielders: James Loera, Charles Levesque, Johnnie Sparks, Robert Baumgardner, James Murrell

Forwards: Terry Riley, Jessie Reyes, Frank Clark, Warren Ballard

Formations: 4-3-3, 4-2-4

Origin: The most popular sport in Coldwoods is American football by far, followed by hockey and baseball. Rich multi-billionaire, Jack McKinely, is a big fan of football and found it baffling that there was no soccer at any level past high schools in Coldwoods and formed the Coldwoods Men's National Football Team on December 24th, 2021. McKinely had to make many improvisions to get a team together in time for the 2022 WIC. Most notably, McKinely had to scrape together a team of high school students from across Coldwoods. With little interest among the populace for football, lack of talent, and the fact that high school teams are the highest level football was played at, this forced McKinely to find players among teenagers. Second, the team holds no permanent home because of its late founding. McKinely is in negotiations to purchase the Northern Goldstar Airlines Morganstown Stadium but has only managed to negotiate temporary usage. Other stadiums across Coldwoods have agreed to temporarily let the team use it. Lastly, McKinely had no takers to coach the boys, forcing him to use his own son, Michael McKinely, to coach the team. Twenty-six-year-old McKinely played football in high school and spent time overseas working as an aide to another team. Despite the odds being stacked against the team, the boys are jubilated and going to give their all.

Normally, I would not say anything but that's total of 16 points is quite high if you are Roleplaying as a team full of high school students. I recommend either scaling down the points or removing the "high school students" part.

[Domanania]

Nickname: Tavunt Dragons

Offensive: 8

Defensive: 5

Goalkeepers: Modan Sae

Defenders: Ko Ho, Honkae Kashí

Midfielders: Gíran Hon, Pasankae Kongseu, Apí Stevens, Raethpaem Koshar, Píhanzhí Kaeyu, Hín Pagín

Forwards: Thomas Do, Jaya Píhan

Formations: 3-5-2, 4-2-3-1, and 4-3-3

Notable Players: interesting info you might wanna add

[Wimberlisk]

Nickname: Artillery

Offensive: 6

Defensive: 9

Formations: 5-2-1-2

GK: Devers Tosp

CB: Deckob Tegg LCB: Elcart Edis RCB: Kci Pordi

LWB: Regni Ercaph RWB: Savept Kalen

LCM: Rekan Layep RCM: Etanan Gelskeri

CAM: Artac Meifeldo

LS: Kataeo Meobo RS: Arkirso Galo

Notable Players: interesting info you might wanna add

[Athara Magarat]

IFAF Western Isles Cup 2022 Group Stage Draw

Group A

- United Partitions (co-hosts / UAFA)
- Remodio (CEFA)
- Serpens Land (MSFC)
- Roendavar (GFA)

Group B

- Asaurcmi (co-hosts / UAFA)
- North Oscotia (GFA)
- Solaryia (MSFC)
- Aecurora (CEFA)

Group C

- Aeteros (co-hosts / CEFA)
- San Montagna (UAFA)
- Thromsa (GFA)
- Scaedia (MSFC)

Group D

- Uprea (co-hosts / CEFA)
- Aizcona (UAFA)
- Ainslie (GFA)
- Ioudaia (MSFC)

Group E

- Corindia (2021 champions / CEFA)
- Nhoor (MSFC)
- Wellsia (UAFA)
- Coldwoods (CEFA)

Group F

- Khas-Kirati Republic (2021 runners-up / UAFA)
- Wyminsk (CEFA)
- Belantica (GFA)
- Domanania (MSFC)

Group G

- Dormill and Stiura (GFA headquarters)
- Martenyika (UAFA)
- Essena (CEFA)
- Laeden (MSFC)

Group H

- Alteran Republics (MSFC’s largest nation)
- Linaviar (CEFA)
- Segentova (UAFA)
- Wimberlisk (UAFA)

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Upcoming Matches on January 1st

Libbertattie Capital Stadium: United Partitions v Remodio

Steelways Park Stadium: Serpens Land v Roendavar

Foslesn Field: Asaurcmi v North Oscotia

Aeter's Arena: Solaryia v Aecurora

[Laeden]

Laeden's National Team

Uniforms

First Uniform	Second Uniform	Goalkeeper Uniform

Strategy:Laeden's team adopts a 4-4-2 tactical scheme, which allows for a greater volume of play in the middle of the field and gives mobility to midfielders, who can quickly support an offensive and rebuild the defense. The characteristics of the wings Remillard (14) and Papineau (31), two young and very fast players, make the team naturally prone to counterattack plays. The tactical scheme allows the team to play comfortably on defense with a high density of players, waiting for some flaw in the rival team's play to exploit opportunities for speedy counterattacks from the sides. The solidity of the 4-4-2 scheme also allows the team to work the exchange of passes, using triangulations to beat the rival marking. However, as the team is mostly young, speed plays are generally the preferred form of play. In general, Laeden's national team plays very effectively against teams that are slower and adopt a strategy of field dominance and possession of the ball. Among the weaknesses of Laeden's team are the aerial play and, to a lesser extent, the long-kicks.

Offense: 5
Defense: 8

[Athara Magarat]

Laeden's National Team

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Uniforms

First Uniform	Second Uniform	Goalkeeper Uniform
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Strategy:Laeden's team adopts a 4-4-2 tactical scheme, which allows for a greater volume of play in the middle of the field and gives mobility to midfielders, who can quickly support an offensive and rebuild the defense. The characteristics of the wings Remillard (14) and Papineau (31), two young and very fast players, make the team naturally prone to counterattack plays. The tactical scheme allows the team to play comfortably on defense with a high density of players, waiting for some flaw in the rival team's play to exploit opportunities for speedy counterattacks from the sides. The solidity of the 4-4-2 scheme also allows the team to work the exchange of passes, using triangulations to beat the rival marking. However, as the team is mostly young, speed plays are generally the preferred form of play. In general, Laeden's national team plays very effectively against teams that are slower and adopt a strategy of field dominance and possession of the ball. Among the weaknesses of Laeden's team are the aerial play and, to a lesser extent, the long-kicks.

Thank you, everyone. With this, we have all 32 teams and the group stage draw is done as well. Best of luck for the matches.

[Lesva]

IF I'M LATE, THAT IS OKAY. I'LL LEAVE IT HERE ANYWAY

Nickname: Blood Moon

Offensive: 5

Defensive: 7

Goalkeepers: Egra Gaudi (Substitute: Reci Paidot)

Defenders: Perma Zedi, Mocandos Ceptin, Dari Venas, Pascitin Bea Neprascas

Midfielders: Aimat Cantri (C), Iodam Toli, Felas Caifac, Dare Evnas, Sivada Geri

Forwards: Pac Ergissos (Substitutes: Mesa Varom Tolli, Snegas Leca, Sventi Lancsmos, Vel Caroto Melei, Eso Hepirras)

Formations: 4-2-3-1, 4-3-3

[Athara Magarat]

IF I'M LATE, THAT IS OKAY. I'LL LEAVE IT HERE ANYWAY

Nickname: Blood Moon

Offensive: 5

Defensive: 7

Goalkeepers: Egra Gaudi (Substitute: Reci Paidot)

Defenders: Perma Zedi, Mocandos Ceptin, Dari Venas, Pascitin Bea Neprascas

Midfielders: Aimat Cantri (C), Iodam Toli, Felas Caifac, Dare Evnas, Sivada Geri

Forwards: Pac Ergissos (Substitutes: Mesa Varom Tolli, Snegas Leca, Sventi Lancsmos, Vel Caroto Melei, Eso Hepirras)

Formations: 4-2-3-1, 4-3-3

Sorry, we already reached 32 teams. Thank you for this though

[Mbokeando]

damn just realised im late
I was busy with other stuff and then spent a while looking stuff up because I don't know much about football. Oh well, gonna submit it anyway because I spent too much time to just delete it

Nicknames: Tēnāfear ōfeo tā (The Emperor's Choice)

Offensive: 9

Defensive: 5

Goalkeepers: Limo Peme Mbalimbera (L.N Sāmāto Sāndēko)

Defenders: Kshírdáq Agxashlúm (Ã́ma Qũmgũksh SH), Lēfe Rōʻi Mbemo (L.N Hirā) Amba Fili Ngāme (L.N Lāpami-Teme), Hika Pōkō Mbangā (L.N Foleta)

Midfielders: Rekā Nepi Ngekā (Pēfōposao Ngoohāo) Harry Wilkins-Smith (New East Anglia FC), Jō Jinēj (L.N Sāmāto Sāndēko)

Forwards: Dauts-ve Tetsi (P.H Thudh Rǎmǎ) Hohā Ninesā Mbomba (multiple, currently L.N Lāpami-Teme), Lēse Onga Ndire (L.N Ngaʻe Ndo)

Formations: 4-3-3

Notable Players: Mbomba is considered the ace of the team, arguably the best Mbokandan footballer of all time, an incredibly skilled striker who has scored 547 goals and had a long career playing for L.N Foleta, L.N Hirā and L.N Lāpami-Teme. However, he has a reputation for being arrogant and abrasive, and could lead to internal strife within the team.

Harry Wilkins-Smith (New East Anglia FC) was a very controversial pick in Mbokeando due to being a Georgelander, and gets along very poorly with Rekā Nepi Ngekā, of Pēfōposao Ngoohāo, a team whose feud with NEA FC is as politically motivated as professionally.

Amba Fili Ngāme is a very good defender, but getting rather old and suffers from occasional bouts of chronic leg pain.

[Athara Magarat]

damn just realised im late
I was busy with other stuff and then spent a while looking stuff up because I don't know much about football. Oh well, gonna submit it anyway because I spent too much time to just delete it

Nicknames: Tēnāfear ōfeo tā (The Emperor's Choice)

Offensive: 9

Defensive: 5

Goalkeepers: Limo Peme Mbalimbera (L.N Sāmāto Sāndēko)

Defenders: Kshírdáq Agxashlúm (Ã́ma Qũmgũksh SH), Lēfe Rōʻi Mbemo (L.N Hirā) Amba Fili Ngāme (L.N Lāpami-Teme), Hika Pōkō Mbangā (L.N Foleta)

Midfielders: Rekā Nepi Ngekā (Pēfōposao Ngoohāo) Harry Wilkins-Smith (New East Anglia FC), Jō Jinēj (L.N Sāmāto Sāndēko)

Forwards: Dauts-ve Tetsi (P.H Thudh Rǎmǎ) Hohā Ninesā Mbomba (multiple, currently L.N Lāpami-Teme), Lēse Onga Ndire (L.N Ngaʻe Ndo)

Formations: 4-3-3
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Notable Players: Mbomba is considered the ace of the team, arguably the best Mbokandan footballer of all time, an incredibly skilled striker who has scored 547 goals and had a long career playing for L.N Foleta, L.N Hirā and L.N Lāpami-Teme. However, he has a reputation for being arrogant and abrasive, and could lead to internal strife within the team.

Harry Wilkins-Smith (New East Anglia FC) was a very controversial pick in Mbokeando due to being a Georgelander, and gets along very poorly with Rekā Nepi Ngekā, of Pēfōposao Ngoohāo, a team whose feud with NEA FC is as politically motivated as professionally.

Amba Fili Ngāme is a very good defender, but getting rather old and suffers from occasional bouts of chronic leg pain.

Really cool! Sorry we slready had 32 teams though. Maybe next year or few months later in UAFA Cup (since you are in South Argus, you are part of that)

[Lesva]

IF I'M LATE, THAT IS OKAY. I'LL LEAVE IT HERE ANYWAY

Nickname: Blood Moon

Offensive: 5

Defensive: 7

Goalkeepers: Egra Gaudi (Substitute: Reci Paidot)

Defenders: Perma Zedi, Mocandos Ceptin, Dari Venas, Pascitin Bea Neprascas

Midfielders: Aimat Cantri (C), Iodam Toli, Felas Caifac, Dare Evnas, Sivada Geri

Forwards: Pac Ergissos (Substitutes: Mesa Varom Tolli, Snegas Leca, Sventi Lancsmos, Vel Caroto Melei, Eso Hepirras)

Formations: 4-2-3-1, 4-3-3

Sorry, we already reached 32 teams. Thank you for this though

All Good! Maybe I can submit this application next time Have a good championship.

[Ainslie]

There’s always the Gael championship of national teams - forget what it is called though or when it is. Ayem could probably shed more light on that.

[Dormill and Stiura]

There’s always the Gael championship of national teams - forget what it is called though or when it is. Ayem could probably shed more light on that.

The GFA Championship (the national-level tournament) is a thing, but it’s a summer (for me) event.

[Athara Magarat]

Group A Match 1

United Partitions v Remodio

2 - 0

Location: Libbertattie Capital Stadium, Libbertattie, United Partitions
Added Time: 1 minute

2: United Partitions takes a shot. That's off target.

8: Remodio takes a shot. It's on target, but saved.

9: United Partitions takes a shot. It's on target, but saved.

10: United Partitions takes a shot. That's off target.

19: Remodio takes a shot. That's off target.

25: United Partitions is shown a Yellow Card.

41: Remodio is shown a Yellow Card.

45: Remodio takes a shot. It's on target, but saved.

49: United Partitions takes a shot. It's on target, but saved.

51: Remodio is shown a Yellow Card.

57: Remodio takes a shot. It's on target, but saved.

59: United Partitions takes a shot. It's on target, but saved.

60: United Partitions takes a shot. It's on target, but saved.

61: Remodio takes a shot. It's on target, but saved.

63: Remodio is shown a Yellow Card.

64: Remodio takes a shot. That's off target.

65: Remodio takes a shot. It's on target, but saved.

75: United Partitions scores! The scorer was Phillippe Vuillard

78: Remodio takes a shot. It's on target, but saved.

82: United Partitions scores! The scorer was Jderemie Ingouman

86: Remodio takes a shot. That's off target.

90: Remodio takes a shot. That's off target.

[Athara Magarat]

Group A Match 2

Serpens Land v Roendavar

1 - 2

Location: Steelways Park Stadium, Port Lesrell, Uprea
Added Time: 4 minutes

4: Roendavar takes a shot. It's on target, but saved.

8: Roendavar takes a shot. It's on target, but saved.

9: Roendavar takes a shot. That's off target.

12: Roendavar takes a shot. It's on target, but saved.

14: Serpens Land takes a shot. It's on target, but saved.

15: Roendavar takes a shot. That's off target.

18: Serpens Land is shown a Yellow Card.

19: Serpens Land takes a shot. It's on target, but saved.

22: Roendavar takes a shot. It's on target, but saved.

23: Roendavar is shown a Yellow Card.

34: Roendavar is shown a Yellow Card.

35: Roendavar scores! The scorer was Reiscal Orvanil Theriscaril

38: Serpens Land takes a shot. That's off target.

43: Serpens Land scores! The scorer was Anderson Maddison

51: Roendavar takes a shot. It's on target, but saved.

56: Serpens Land takes a shot. That's off target.

62: Serpens Land takes a shot. It's on target, but saved.

70: Serpens Land takes a shot. It's on target, but saved.

71: Roendavar takes a shot. It's on target, but saved.

73: Roendavar takes a shot. It's on target, but saved.

75: Serpens Land takes a shot. That's off target.

78: Serpens Land takes a shot. That's off target.

83: Serpens Land takes a shot. That's off target.

84: Roendavar scores! The scorer was Gadhriel Virestie Nestrelis

89: Roendavar takes a shot. That's off target.

92: Roendavar takes a shot. It's on target, but saved.

[Athara Magarat]

Group B Match 1

Asaurcmi v North Oscotia

2 - 0

Location: Foslesn Field, Ouisport, Asaurcmi
Added Time: 2 minutes

2: Asaurcmi scores! The scorer was Ezaunson Alrsro

8: North Oscotia takes a shot. That's off target.

11: North Oscotia takes a shot. That's off target.

12: Asaurcmi takes a shot. That's off target.

15: Asaurcmi scores! The scorer was Trosumo Gruhelu

23: North Oscotia takes a shot. That's off target.

24: North Oscotia takes a shot. That's off target.

25: North Oscotia is shown a Yellow Card.

26: North Oscotia is shown a Yellow Card.

28: North Oscotia takes a shot. It's on target, but saved.

30: Asaurcmi takes a shot. That's off target.

36: North Oscotia takes a shot. That's off target.

40: Asaurcmi takes a shot. It's on target, but saved.

42: Asaurcmi takes a shot. It's on target, but saved.

44: North Oscotia takes a shot. That's off target.

47: North Oscotia takes a shot. That's off target.

56: North Oscotia is shown a Yellow Card.

60: Asaurcmi takes a shot. That's off target.

62: Asaurcmi takes a shot. It's on target, but saved.

66: Asaurcmi takes a shot. It's on target, but saved.

74: Asaurcmi is shown a Yellow Card.

77: Asaurcmi takes a shot. It's on target, but saved.

78: Asaurcmi takes a shot. That's off target.

89: North Oscotia takes a shot. That's off target.