[Abortion Thread] (POLL 4) A compromising position...

[Michel Meilleur]

and which pendejo made you the arbiter of that?

One doesn't need to be an arbiter nor a judge to follow the law in all of its forms.

[Necroghastia]

So a fetus has yet to gain personhood then. Either way it isn't a person.

A toddler has yet to gain personhood. A mentally deficient child has yet to gain personhood. Either way, they're still a person and claiming the contrary is just peddling Nazi "life unworthy of life" rhethoric.

Wrong on both counts lmfao

[Arlenton]

This opinion is simply an opinion. The government has, and uses, the ability to take rights away from people for various reason.

Do those "various reason" [sic] include the mentioned reason of offending some peoples' morality?

Yes.

[Necroghastia]

Do those "various reason" [sic] include the mentioned reason of offending some peoples' morality?

Yes.

Examples?

[Arlenton]

This opinion is simply an opinion. The government has, and uses, the ability to take rights away from people for various reason.

Abolish the 2nd amendment because civvies with guns personally offends me lmao

The government clearly does have gun control in effect currently, so yeah. They do do it.

I am not arguing in favor of a "should" I am arguing that they "do".

[Arlenton]

Yes.

Examples?

State laws banning abortion after 25 weeks, or whatever the standard allowed by Roe is I forgot the exact number.

[Neutraligon]

Examples?

State laws banning abortion after 25 weeks, or whatever the standard allowed by Roe is I forgot the exact number.

Roe did not set a standard.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

The government clearly does have gun control in effect currently, so yeah. They do do it.

I am not arguing in favor of a "should" I am arguing that they "do".

and they should because i am personally offended

[Michel Meilleur]

A toddler has yet to gain personhood. A mentally deficient child has yet to gain personhood. Either way, they're still a person and claiming the contrary is just peddling Nazi "life unworthy of life" rhethoric.

Wrong on both counts lmfao

"nu uh ur wrong lololololilalol"

A compelling argument as to why some humans should not be considered as being persons.

[Neutraligon]

Wrong on both counts lmfao

"nu uh ur wrong lololololilalol"

A compelling argument as to why some humans should not be considered as being persons.

It was as compelling as your claim.

[Necroghastia]

Wrong on both counts lmfao

"nu uh ur wrong lololololilalol"

A compelling argument as to why some humans should not be considered as being persons.

are you seriously pretending that "nuh uh ur wrong lololol" isn't what your posts amount to

[Michel Meilleur]

are you seriously pretending that "nuh uh ur wrong lololol" isn't what your posts amount to

Well, if telling you that "you don't get to deny another human's humanity because it's inconvenient to you" is "nuh uh ur wrong lololol" to you, then I don't think I can do much for you.

[Necroghastia]

are you seriously pretending that "nuh uh ur wrong lololol" isn't what your posts amount to

Well, if telling you that "you don't get to deny another human's humanity because it's inconvenient to you" is "nuh uh ur wrong lololol" to you, then I don't think I can do much for you.

i mean
denying another human's humanity is literally what you are doing
so

[Michel Meilleur]

Well, if telling you that "you don't get to deny another human's humanity because it's inconvenient to you" is "nuh uh ur wrong lololol" to you, then I don't think I can do much for you.

i mean
denying another human's humanity is literally what you are doing
so

I'm denying another human's humanity by... Saying that personhood and its nebulous definition isn't enough to deny someone's humanity?
Quite the take you have, I sure would love to hear your reasoning because I ain't getting it lmfao

[Necroghastia]

i mean
denying another human's humanity is literally what you are doing
so

I'm denying another human's humanity by... Saying that personhood and its nebulous definition isn't enough to deny someone's humanity?
Quite the take you have, I sure would love to hear your reasoning because I ain't getting it lmfao

A toddler has yet to gain personhood. A mentally deficient child has yet to gain personhood..

[Michel Meilleur]

A toddler has yet to gain personhood. A mentally deficient child has yet to gain personhood. Either way, they're still a person and claiming the contrary is just peddling Nazi "life unworthy of life" rhethoric.

Fucking lmao, can you be less blatant in your shameless quote editing?
You know, you can just admit you were wrong and read too quickly instead of lying through your teeth like that.

[Necroghastia]

Fucking lmao, can you be less blatant in your shameless quote editing?

He said, as he blatantly and shamelessly quote edited.

You know, you can just admit you were wrong and read too quickly instead of lying through your teeth like that.

Not in the habit of saying I was wrong about things I wasn't wrong about.

[Genivaria]

So how do you define "right?"

Very differently from wrong.

Do you have a whole notebook on ways to not answer questions?
....you're a used car salesmen aren't you?

[Elwher]

No, I'm arguing that brain-dead people should have the same rights as people who are not brain-dead.

Have you polled the dead about their political preferences lately? After all the dead should be permitted to vote according to you no?

Only in Chicago.

[Michel Meilleur]

He said, as he blatantly and shamelessly quote edited.

I quote edited because I added back the second part of the post you purposefully removed to change the point I was making? You know that it's not allowed by the rules to do what you're trying to do, right?

Not in the habit of saying I was wrong about things I wasn't wrong about.

You're clearly in the habit of lying about being right for things you can and have been very easily proved wrong, lol

[Necroghastia]

He said, as he blatantly and shamelessly quote edited.

I quote edited because I added back the second part of the post you purposefully removed to change the point I was making?

You mean the post I snipped to point out where precisely you denied certain peoples' humanity?

You know that it's not allowed by the rules to do what you're trying to do, right?

If you honestly think I did anything wrong, the appropriate venue is the moderation subforum.

Not in the habit of saying I was wrong about things I wasn't wrong about.

You're clearly in the habit of lying about being right for things you can and have been very easily proved wrong, lol

Yes, yes you are. You're also clearly in the habit of referring to yourself in the second person.

[Michel Meilleur]

You mean the post I snipped to point out where precisely you denied certain peoples' humanity?

The post you removed the second part to change totally the meaning of and are now still pathetically lying in an attempt to pretend that you haven't fucked up pitifully, indeed.

A toddler has yet to gain personhood. A mentally deficient child has yet to gain personhood. Either way, they're still a person and claiming the contrary is just peddling Nazi "life unworthy of life" rhethoric.

It's still not working btw, lol.

If you honestly think I did anything wrong, the appropriate venue is the moderation subforum.

Can't be arsed, mate. I just want you to know how much you failed and how pathetic it looks, that's all. No need to call the janies for that.

Yes, yes you are. You're also clearly in the habit of referring to yourself in the second person.

k lol m8

[Necroghastia]

You mean the post I snipped to point out where precisely you denied certain peoples' humanity?

The post you removed the second part to change totally the meaning of and are now still pathetically lying in an attempt to pretend that you haven't fucked up pitifully, indeed.

A toddler has yet to gain personhood. A mentally deficient child has yet to gain personhood. Either way, they're still a person and claiming the contrary is just peddling Nazi "life unworthy of life" rhethoric.

"they don't have personhood but they're persons" is a total oxymoron and you know it. But, somehow, you think I am the one who has "fucked up pitifully." Weeeeird.

[Michel Meilleur]

"they don't have personhood but they're persons" is a total oxymoron and you know it. But, somehow, you think I am the one who has "fucked up pitifully." Weeeeird.

It's almost as if "personhood" as a claim to what make a person, a person is bogus bullshit made up by peoples who want to justify abortion by dehumanizing fetus and babies.

[Neutraligon]

"they don't have personhood but they're persons" is a total oxymoron and you know it. But, somehow, you think I am the one who has "fucked up pitifully." Weeeeird.

It's almost as if "personhood" as a claim to what make a person, a person is bogus bullshit made up by peoples who want to justify abortion by dehumanizing fetus and babies.

I mean for personhood to be a thing a person does need to be a person. It is kinda in the definition.
Not that personhood matters when it comes to abortion.