by Kaczynskisatva » Sun Dec 05, 2021 10:57 am
by Great Algerstonia » Sun Dec 05, 2021 11:18 am
Resilient Acceleration wrote:After a period of letting this discussion run its course without my involvement due to sheer laziness and a new related NS project, I have returned with an answer and that answer is Israel.
by Whitemore » Sun Dec 05, 2021 11:19 am
by Untecna » Sun Dec 05, 2021 11:20 am
Neanderthaland wrote:Dance-off
by HISPIDA » Sun Dec 05, 2021 11:23 am
Heloin wrote:Only two globally significant revolutions in the last 200 years famously. Ignoring the revolutions in the 1820s, 1840s, 1840s, 1850s, 1860s, 1870s, 1880, etc…
by Kaczynskisatva » Sun Dec 05, 2021 11:23 am
Heloin wrote:Only two globally significant revolutions in the last 200 years famously. Ignoring the revolutions in the 1820s, 1840s, 1840s, 1850s, 1860s, 1870s, 1880, etc…
Hispida wrote:this. the french revolution and the october revolution aren't the two "globally significant revolutions"; i'd say the springtime of nations, american revolution, 1952 egyptian revolution, xinhai revolution, and meiji restoration among others are equally if not more important.
by The Jamesian Republic » Sun Dec 05, 2021 11:24 am
by Untecna » Sun Dec 05, 2021 11:25 am
Sandalos wrote:The revolution and the establishment of the dictatorship of the proletariat will take form in an epic rap battle
by HISPIDA » Sun Dec 05, 2021 11:26 am
Kaczynskisatva wrote:Heloin wrote:Only two globally significant revolutions in the last 200 years famously. Ignoring the revolutions in the 1820s, 1840s, 1840s, 1850s, 1860s, 1870s, 1880, etc…
Not every instance of revolution created a distinctly new mode of government. I am discussing revolutions in the architecture of the State, not revolution against instances of the State.Hispida wrote:this. the french revolution and the october revolution aren't the two "globally significant revolutions"; i'd say the springtime of nations, american revolution, 1952 egyptian revolution, xinhai revolution, and meiji restoration among others are equally if not more important.
Same as above. The American revolution, for example, was simply another instance of a revolution to install Liberal, or republican architecture to the State.
by Kaczynskisatva » Sun Dec 05, 2021 11:27 am
Sandalos wrote:The revolution and the establishment of the dictatorship of the proletariat will take form in an epic rap battle
by Heloin » Sun Dec 05, 2021 11:29 am
Kaczynskisatva wrote:Heloin wrote:Only two globally significant revolutions in the last 200 years famously. Ignoring the revolutions in the 1820s, 1840s, 1840s, 1850s, 1860s, 1870s, 1880, etc…
Not every instance of revolution created a distinctly new mode of government. I am discussing revolutions in the architecture of the State, not revolution against instances of the State.
by Kubra » Sun Dec 05, 2021 11:30 am
But the answer is yes, because liberalism was a thing and Louis would have probably found *something* to piss away the treasury on, perhaps a fancy hat and accompanying wig collection on par with the expenses occurred regarding the revolution.Hispida wrote:Kaczynskisatva wrote:
Not every instance of revolution created a distinctly new mode of government. I am discussing revolutions in the architecture of the State, not revolution against instances of the State.
Same as above. The American revolution, for example, was simply another instance of a revolution to install Liberal, or republican architecture to the State.
the american revolution was the first liberal republican revolution against an oppressive state. if anything, the american revolution was a precursor to the french revolution; without an american revolution, would there be a french revolution? if the answer is no, then the american revolution is arguably even more important than the french revolution.
by The free romanians » Sun Dec 05, 2021 11:34 am
Hispida wrote:Kaczynskisatva wrote:
Not every instance of revolution created a distinctly new mode of government. I am discussing revolutions in the architecture of the State, not revolution against instances of the State.
Same as above. The American revolution, for example, was simply another instance of a revolution to install Liberal, or republican architecture to the State.
the american revolution was the first liberal republican revolution against an oppressive state. if anything, the american revolution was a precursor to the french revolution; without an american revolution, would there be a french revolution? if the answer is no, then the american revolution is arguably even more important than the french revolution.
by The Jamesian Republic » Sun Dec 05, 2021 11:34 am
Sundiata wrote:The revolution will not be televised. The revolution will be live.
by Sandalos » Sun Dec 05, 2021 11:34 am
The free romanians wrote:Hispida wrote:the American revolution was the first liberal republican revolution against an oppressive state. if anything, the American revolution was a precursor to the French revolution; without an American revolution, would there be a french revolution? if the answer is no, then the American revolution is arguably even more important than the French revolution.
Idk but I don't think the brits were that oppressively
by Kaczynskisatva » Sun Dec 05, 2021 11:35 am
There have been, in recent history, two significant, global-scale revolutionary processes which transformed the architecture of the State, (re)introducing new fundamental political ideologies and modes of government:
- Liberalism, starting with the French and American Revolutions
- Socialism, starting with the Russian Revolution
by Great Algerstonia » Sun Dec 05, 2021 11:36 am
Kaczynskisatva wrote:I edited the OP, to make it clear what I am referring to:
[b]There have been, in recent history, two significant, global-scale revolutionary processes which transformed the architecture of the State, (re)introducing new fundamental political ideologies and modes of government:
- Liberalism, starting with the French and American Revolutions
- Socialism, starting with the Russian Revolution[/b]
I am concerned with global revolutions in form of government, not local revolutions against instances of government. The Chinese Communist revolution, for example, was a local revolution against an instance of government, but it did not represent a new form of government. It was a Socialist revolution.
Resilient Acceleration wrote:After a period of letting this discussion run its course without my involvement due to sheer laziness and a new related NS project, I have returned with an answer and that answer is Israel.
by Neutraligon » Sun Dec 05, 2021 11:37 am
by Limonovshchina » Sun Dec 05, 2021 11:38 am
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