Have you polled the dead about their political preferences lately? After all the dead should be permitted to vote according to you no?
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by Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sun Dec 05, 2021 11:00 am
by Spirit of Hope » Sun Dec 05, 2021 11:00 am
Imperializt Russia wrote:Support biblical marriage! One SoH and as many wives and sex slaves as he can afford!
by Necroghastia » Sun Dec 05, 2021 11:01 am
by Spirit of Hope » Sun Dec 05, 2021 11:02 am
Imperializt Russia wrote:Support biblical marriage! One SoH and as many wives and sex slaves as he can afford!
by Sundiata » Sun Dec 05, 2021 11:04 am
by Neanderthaland » Sun Dec 05, 2021 11:04 am
by Spirit of Hope » Sun Dec 05, 2021 11:05 am
Sundiata wrote:Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Have you polled the dead about their political preferences lately? After all the dead should be permitted to vote according to you no?
If brain death = death then a fetus is probably not in the same category. We probably shouldn't have equated the two I guess.
Imperializt Russia wrote:Support biblical marriage! One SoH and as many wives and sex slaves as he can afford!
by Michel Meilleur » Sun Dec 05, 2021 11:07 am
by Necroghastia » Sun Dec 05, 2021 11:08 am
by Spirit of Hope » Sun Dec 05, 2021 11:08 am
Imperializt Russia wrote:Support biblical marriage! One SoH and as many wives and sex slaves as he can afford!
by Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sun Dec 05, 2021 11:09 am
Refusing to act against a blatant crime and ignoring it because it's easier for you is the sin of pusillanimity, however, and I'm pretty that d'Aquin classified it as being a worse one than "misplaced righteousness", if it can even be called so.
by Arlenton » Sun Dec 05, 2021 11:09 am
Spirit of Hope wrote:Arlenton wrote:The things others are trying to force me to do are outside of abortion and outside the scope of this thread, yet are very much by I support the McConnell court strategy.
As for abortion, I do oppose Roe on states' rights grounds. In the case of abortion, something I tend to believe should be legal, this is more of a "how the government(s) should function" issue to me as opposed to whether I think abortion should be legal or not.
The government shouldn't take peoples rights away because it offends some people morality. You are directly arguing that the government should have the right to take peoples rights away because someone finds it objectionable and then turning around and complaining when someone is doing that to you.Sundiata wrote:It's wrong to abort a pregnancy for being unwanted.
Doesn't answer why the fetus should be able to highjack a woman's body. You can believe something is morally wrong, that doesn't give you the right to deny other people the ability to do it.
by Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sun Dec 05, 2021 11:10 am
Arlenton wrote:Spirit of Hope wrote:
The government shouldn't take peoples rights away because it offends some people morality. You are directly arguing that the government should have the right to take peoples rights away because someone finds it objectionable and then turning around and complaining when someone is doing that to you.
Doesn't answer why the fetus should be able to highjack a woman's body. You can believe something is morally wrong, that doesn't give you the right to deny other people the ability to do it.
This opinion is simply an opinion. The government has, and uses, the ability to take rights away from people for various reason.
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Abolish the 2nd amendment because civvies with guns personally offends me lmao
by Michel Meilleur » Sun Dec 05, 2021 11:10 am
Spirit of Hope wrote:Brain dead = dead. A fetus would be classified as brain dead if tested.
by Necroghastia » Sun Dec 05, 2021 11:10 am
Arlenton wrote:Spirit of Hope wrote:
The government shouldn't take peoples rights away because it offends some people morality. You are directly arguing that the government should have the right to take peoples rights away because someone finds it objectionable and then turning around and complaining when someone is doing that to you.
Doesn't answer why the fetus should be able to highjack a woman's body. You can believe something is morally wrong, that doesn't give you the right to deny other people the ability to do it.
This opinion is simply an opinion. The government has, and uses, the ability to take rights away from people for various reason.
by Michel Meilleur » Sun Dec 05, 2021 11:11 am
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:wat even is a crime
by Neanderthaland » Sun Dec 05, 2021 11:11 am
by Sundiata » Sun Dec 05, 2021 11:11 am
Sure, but we shouldn't actively kill people who are in the process of dying. And if we don't do that, then we obviously shouldn't kill people who are in the process of living: embryos.
by Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sun Dec 05, 2021 11:11 am
An act that goes against natural, moral or human laws.
by Necroghastia » Sun Dec 05, 2021 11:12 am
by Spirit of Hope » Sun Dec 05, 2021 11:12 am
Michel Meilleur wrote:Spirit of Hope wrote:Brain dead = dead. A fetus would be classified as brain dead if tested.
No, he or she wouldn't for the simple reason that for something to be dead, it first needs to have been alive and thus a fetus can not be called "brain dead" because his brain has yet to form.
Your whole argument hinges on a faulty premise and abusive argumentation, tbh, and being aggressive about it doesn't make it more right.
Imperializt Russia wrote:Support biblical marriage! One SoH and as many wives and sex slaves as he can afford!
by Michel Meilleur » Sun Dec 05, 2021 11:14 am
Spirit of Hope wrote:Michel Meilleur wrote:No, he or she wouldn't for the simple reason that for something to be dead, it first needs to have been alive and thus a fetus can not be called "brain dead" because his brain has yet to form.
Your whole argument hinges on a faulty premise and abusive argumentation, tbh, and being aggressive about it doesn't make it more right.
So a fetus has yet to gain personhood then. Either way it isn't a person.
by Sundiata » Sun Dec 05, 2021 11:14 am
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:An act that goes against natural, moral or human laws.
and which pendejo made you the arbiter of that?
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