by Nreremeopahpera » Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:14 am
by Miravana » Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:38 am
Numero Capitan wrote:I resent the suggestion that I would spy on TBH.
by Roavin » Sun Nov 28, 2021 2:04 pm
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by [violet] » Mon Nov 29, 2021 5:23 pm
Roavin wrote:EDIT: Tamiel just confirmed to me on Discord that they didn't have lag spikes and got several "unauthorized" error messages. That, plus the detail I missed about the 26 verified endorsements, might point to something else than the banjection, and rather something like ... an exception during update?
by Tim-Opolis » Mon Nov 29, 2021 5:36 pm
[violet] wrote:Roavin wrote:EDIT: Tamiel just confirmed to me on Discord that they didn't have lag spikes and got several "unauthorized" error messages. That, plus the detail I missed about the 26 verified endorsements, might point to something else than the banjection, and rather something like ... an exception during update?
This is a shame, because banjection does look like a reasonably likely culprit, triggering multiple writes.
Anyway, how reproducible do we think this is? Because I can set up a test region that writes a log every time it saves to say why it's doing it. That's not something I can impose on every region in the game without slowing down update, but if it's just this one region, and we manage to trigger the bug, I should be able to figure out what happened.
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by [violet] » Tue Nov 30, 2021 5:55 pm
Tim-Opolis wrote:We reproduce it multiple times a night any time we’re chasing tag raiders, would you like us to document and record it whenever it happens?
Tim-Opolis wrote:I can comfortably say there isn’t a single night of tag chasing that doesn’t have at least one delegacy glitch. We can do out best to reproduce it in a test region, but it’d require raider cooperation for live fire conditions and you’d need a lot of repetition to consistently catch the glitch.
by Altmoras » Tue Nov 30, 2021 6:15 pm
Tim-Opolis wrote:[violet] wrote:This is a shame, because banjection does look like a reasonably likely culprit, triggering multiple writes.
Anyway, how reproducible do we think this is? Because I can set up a test region that writes a log every time it saves to say why it's doing it. That's not something I can impose on every region in the game without slowing down update, but if it's just this one region, and we manage to trigger the bug, I should be able to figure out what happened.
We reproduce it multiple times a night any time we’re chasing tag raiders, would you like us to document and record it whenever it happens? I can comfortably say there isn’t a single night of tag chasing that doesn’t have at least one delegacy glitch. We can do out best to reproduce it in a test region, but it’d require raider cooperation for live fire conditions and you’d need a lot of repetition to consistently catch the glitch.
by Refuge Isle » Tue Nov 30, 2021 6:49 pm
[violet] wrote:Tim-Opolis wrote:We reproduce it multiple times a night any time we’re chasing tag raiders, would you like us to document and record it whenever it happens?
A few more examples would be handy, thanks (region names + times). You don't need to do them all. Unless some high percentage of the examples include banjection; if that's the case, I'd like to see how common it is.
[violet] wrote:Tim-Opolis wrote:I can comfortably say there isn’t a single night of tag chasing that doesn’t have at least one delegacy glitch. We can do out best to reproduce it in a test region, but it’d require raider cooperation for live fire conditions and you’d need a lot of repetition to consistently catch the glitch.
We may need that, because thorough logging is the best way to catch what's happening, but it's too slow to enable for all regions during update.
by Roavin » Tue Nov 30, 2021 7:03 pm
Altmoras wrote:It should be noted that this particular permutation of the bug is slightly different to the typical one, the one I typically see has a happening generated on my reports page about someone becoming delegate in a tag raid target, but nobody actually becomes delegate, and the region stays at "12 hours ago" even though nations that moved into it on time will have influence changes.
[violet] wrote:We may need that, because thorough logging is the best way to catch what's happening, but it's too slow to enable for all regions during update.
by Miravana » Tue Nov 30, 2021 8:34 pm
Altmoras wrote:It should be noted that this particular permutation of the bug is slightly different to the typical one, the one I typically see has a happening generated on my reports page about someone becoming delegate in a tag raid target, but nobody actually becomes delegate, and the region stays at "12 hours ago" even though nations that moved into it on time will have influence changes.
Roavin wrote:Would it help if, say, a specific update is agreed upon beforehand for a tag run + chase, with the raiders sending you their target list beforehand? If so, how early beforehand would you have to be informed of the target list?
Numero Capitan wrote:I resent the suggestion that I would spy on TBH.
by [violet] » Wed Dec 01, 2021 6:34 pm
Miravana wrote:This could definitely be arranged if you'd be wiling to spectate an update
by Miravana » Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:32 pm
[violet] wrote:Miravana wrote:This could definitely be arranged if you'd be wiling to spectate an update
Okay this sounds like a plan.
Give me a little time write some logging code, then we can arrange an update or two where somebody emails me a list of target regions a few minutes beforehand. Hopefully one will exhibit the bug, and then I can see what's happening.
Numero Capitan wrote:I resent the suggestion that I would spy on TBH.
by Miravana » Thu Dec 02, 2021 1:17 am
[violet] wrote:I've also added a tweak that might help reduce the frequency of the problem... let me know if you notice any change.
Numero Capitan wrote:I resent the suggestion that I would spy on TBH.
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